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"U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties,
rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines — despite being told repeatedly that they weren't near the village." http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/75036.html The left has taken to calling Afghanistan "Obama's Vietnam." Well, if we're going to let troops die as part of a PR stunt, then yes, it does begin to resemble Vietnam. Either we're going to give our troops every advantage in an effort to allow them to win or we should, in fact, get out. If Obama has in mind a Nixon-style "decent interval" where we are going to let troops be killed in an effort not to win a war but to simply contrive a politically-palatable "defeat with honor," then get them out of there. As John Kerry said "No one wants to be the last soldier to die for a lie." And if these rules persist, if this happens again, our troops will in fact be dying for a lie. |
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"H the K" wrote in message
m... You oppose womens' rights? I agree that we would be in a far better world had we bombed the developing world with school supplies and medical care and farming implements and agricultural products, et cetera, all stenciled in the native language saying "A Gift from the People of the United States." We've gotten nothing out of our war against Iraq. HWB had an opportunity to invade Baghdad. He wisely passed. He also had an opportunity to support Saddam's overthrow from within. He unwisely passed. But, we got a lot out of the war in Iraq... we got a lot of hardened terrorists, who moved to Afganistan and then Pakistan. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:27:59 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:05:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: The left has taken to calling Afghanistan "Obama's Vietnam." Well, if we're going to let troops die as part of a PR stunt, then yes, it does begin to resemble Vietnam. Either we're going to give our troops every advantage in an effort to allow them to win or we should, in fact, get out. If Obama has in mind a Nixon-style "decent interval" where we are going to let troops be killed in an effort not to win a war but to simply contrive a politically-palatable "defeat with honor," then get them out of there. I say, get them out of there. We have nothing to gain by staying. If we really wanted to get Bin Laden the best way would have been to ignore him until he stuck his head up and then just send in a small team to shoot him. We should have bombed Afghanistan with school supplies and other aid after the Soviets left. They would have handed Bin Laden's head to us on a plate. I really wonder how much of this is driven by women's rights groups and drug warriors. You oppose womens' rights? I support women's rights in this country but I don't think we have the right to invade another country and impose our culture on them. Tell that to Bush? Oh, too late.... It would have been cheaper to fly all the Afghani women who want their rights here and buy them a nail salon. Just a bit sexist, not to mention not much of an argument. How many billion do you think we have wasted in Afghanistan for virtually zero results? We have killed a lot of people but I don't think we are a bit safer for it. Thanks to Bush. Now we'll see what Obama can do. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam rhetoric and it was basically what we are hearing now. I was wrong then in supporting the war, I don't want to be on the wrong side again. It's a concern. My guess is that Obama has heard of VN. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 10, 12:11*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 19:27:59 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:05:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: The left has taken to calling Afghanistan "Obama's Vietnam." Well, if we're going to let troops die as part of a PR stunt, then yes, it does begin to resemble Vietnam. Either we're going to give our troops every advantage in an effort to allow them to win or we should, in fact, get out. If Obama has in mind a Nixon-style "decent interval" where we are going to let troops be killed in an effort not to win a war but to simply contrive a politically-palatable "defeat with honor," then get them out of there. I say, get them out of there. We have nothing to gain by staying. If we really wanted to get Bin Laden the best way would have been to ignore him until he stuck his head up and then just send in a small team to shoot him. We should have bombed Afghanistan with school supplies and other aid after the Soviets left. They would have handed Bin Laden's head to us on a plate. I really wonder how much of this is driven by women's rights groups and drug warriors. You oppose womens' rights? I support women's rights in this country but I don't think we have the right to invade another country and impose our culture on them. Tell that to Bush? Oh, too late.... It would have been cheaper to fly all the Afghani women who want their rights here and buy them a nail salon. Just a bit sexist, not to mention not much of an argument. How many billion do you think we have wasted in Afghanistan for virtually zero results? We have killed a lot of people but I don't think we are a bit safer for it. Thanks to Bush. Now we'll see what Obama can do. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam rhetoric and it was basically what we are hearing now. I was wrong then in supporting the war, I don't want to be on the wrong side again. It's a concern. My guess is that Obama has heard of VN. -- Nom=de=Plume You're blathers are becoming humourous. Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. |
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:40:09 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: One of my doctors is an Iranian immigrant and once, when we had some time to kill for one reason or another, I asked her why she still wore the hijab (head scarf) after all these years of living in the US. What she said was very interesting. She tried to stop wearing the hijab during med school - to kind of blend in as she put it, but was very uncomfortable if only because the hijab represented, to her, concepts of modesty, privacy, and morality at a personal level. She understood the concept of freedom of choice, but this was a cultural thing - she explained it this way - even though she is a non-practicing Muslim (actually she's rather agnostic), married to an American (former All-American from Brandeis - I didn't dare ask her if he was Jewish), basically non-religious, the head covering represented something that she was comfortable with. What she did say, though, which really was intriguing is that in America, she had the choice to wear it or not - in Iran, there was no choice. It meant as much to her to have the choice as it did to actually wear it. In part, that's what we're fighting - ingrained cultural ethics and morality in addition to religious fanaticism. Excellent example. But all that must be changed if we hope to serve McRibs in Afghanistan or Iran. Personally, whether I care for a culture or not, I respect it. Cultures don't happen by accident. --Vic |
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:01:50 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:40:09 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: One of my doctors is an Iranian immigrant and once, when we had some time to kill for one reason or another, I asked her why she still wore the hijab (head scarf) after all these years of living in the US. What she said was very interesting. She tried to stop wearing the hijab during med school - to kind of blend in as she put it, but was very uncomfortable if only because the hijab represented, to her, concepts of modesty, privacy, and morality at a personal level. She understood the concept of freedom of choice, but this was a cultural thing - she explained it this way - even though she is a non-practicing Muslim (actually she's rather agnostic), married to an American (former All-American from Brandeis - I didn't dare ask her if he was Jewish), basically non-religious, the head covering represented something that she was comfortable with. What she did say, though, which really was intriguing is that in America, she had the choice to wear it or not - in Iran, there was no choice. It meant as much to her to have the choice as it did to actually wear it. In part, that's what we're fighting - ingrained cultural ethics and morality in addition to religious fanaticism. Excellent example. But all that must be changed if we hope to serve McRibs in Afghanistan or Iran. Personally, whether I care for a culture or not, I respect it. Cultures don't happen by accident. True and all cultures have their ugly side and their beautiful side. When I think of Islam (generic Islam), I think of mathematics, navigation, architectural wonders, trade and commerce in addition to 5th Century barbarism, cruelty and that horror of horrors - theocracy. We have our analogs in Western society also - this isn't an us vs them kind of comparison. Western society can be as vicious and barbaric as any seen on the face of the planet - but Western societies at least try to incorporate the social out riders and/or adjust for them. That is'nt necessarily so in other societies. |
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... You oppose womens' rights? I support women's rights in this country but I don't think we have the right to invade another country and impose our culture on them. Tell that to Bush? Oh, too late.... It would have been cheaper to fly all the Afghani women who want their rights here and buy them a nail salon. Just a bit sexist, not to mention not much of an argument. How many billion do you think we have wasted in Afghanistan for virtually zero results? We have killed a lot of people but I don't think we are a bit safer for it. Thanks to Bush. Now we'll see what Obama can do. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam rhetoric and it was basically what we are hearing now. I was wrong then in supporting the war, I don't want to be on the wrong side again. It's a concern. My guess is that Obama has heard of VN. -- Nom=de=Plume You're blathers are becoming humourous. I'm glad you're amused. Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:33:43 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:01:50 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:40:09 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: One of my doctors is an Iranian immigrant and once, when we had some time to kill for one reason or another, I asked her why she still wore the hijab (head scarf) after all these years of living in the US. What she said was very interesting. She tried to stop wearing the hijab during med school - to kind of blend in as she put it, but was very uncomfortable if only because the hijab represented, to her, concepts of modesty, privacy, and morality at a personal level. She understood the concept of freedom of choice, but this was a cultural thing - she explained it this way - even though she is a non-practicing Muslim (actually she's rather agnostic), married to an American (former All-American from Brandeis - I didn't dare ask her if he was Jewish), basically non-religious, the head covering represented something that she was comfortable with. What she did say, though, which really was intriguing is that in America, she had the choice to wear it or not - in Iran, there was no choice. It meant as much to her to have the choice as it did to actually wear it. In part, that's what we're fighting - ingrained cultural ethics and morality in addition to religious fanaticism. Excellent example. But all that must be changed if we hope to serve McRibs in Afghanistan or Iran. Personally, whether I care for a culture or not, I respect it. Cultures don't happen by accident. True and all cultures have their ugly side and their beautiful side. When I think of Islam (generic Islam), I think of mathematics, navigation, architectural wonders, trade and commerce in addition to 5th Century barbarism, cruelty and that horror of horrors - theocracy. We have our analogs in Western society also - this isn't an us vs them kind of comparison. Western society can be as vicious and barbaric as any seen on the face of the planet - but Western societies at least try to incorporate the social out riders and/or adjust for them. That is'nt necessarily so in other societies. Unfortunately, the Republican President just past DID see it as us vs. them. The record is now shows he and his cabinet allied with a group of thugs who had a definite crusade, Jesus vs. Mohammed agenda. They don't want McFood in their world and we should respect that. |
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:01:05 -0700, Jim wrote:
Ever read the book, "Three Cups of Tea?" That's exactly what the author did, bomb them with schools and supplies. A well worth read. Should be read by those who disagree, though. Sounds interesting. Ever hear of "The Ugly American?" Read that in the early '60's. Basically about the commie threat in VN and playing local culture in a human, understanding way. One part I remembered being impressed with was how the hero American noted that the village women got hunchbacks as they aged - because they were using short reed brooms to sweep. He attached long sticks to the reeds to modernize their cleaning habits and prevent future hunchbacking. Though ugly physically, the hero was beautiful in thought and motive. Later as I became educated I saw that though there are different cultures, most humans are pretty much the same. Thinking back to that book I realized the broom stuff was pure bull**** - and condescending. In the theme of the book it wasn't meant to be. But it was. The biggest danger in trying to change a culture is condescension. Folks don't take kindly to that. And arrogance can make it hard to recognize in oneself. That's why I stay away from interfering or resisting other cultures, but just try to appreciate what I can. Maybe it can work when the locals go outside and come back to do it themselves. But I'm not much for nation building. Except by example. --Vic |
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:01:05 -0700, Jim wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:05:53 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: The left has taken to calling Afghanistan "Obama's Vietnam." Well, if we're going to let troops die as part of a PR stunt, then yes, it does begin to resemble Vietnam. Either we're going to give our troops every advantage in an effort to allow them to win or we should, in fact, get out. If Obama has in mind a Nixon-style "decent interval" where we are going to let troops be killed in an effort not to win a war but to simply contrive a politically-palatable "defeat with honor," then get them out of there. I say, get them out of there. We have nothing to gain by staying. If we really wanted to get Bin Laden the best way would have been to ignore him until he stuck his head up and then just send in a small team to shoot him. We should have bombed Afghanistan with school supplies and other aid after the Soviets left. They would have handed Bin Laden's head to us on a plate. I really wonder how much of this is driven by women's rights groups and drug warriors. Ever read the book, "Three Cups of Tea?" That's exactly what the author did, bomb them with schools and supplies. A well worth read. Should be read by those who disagree, though. Could easily defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda with this method. But we don't make any money if we don't sell bombs and bullets. It's our national franchise! |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:01:05 -0700, Jim wrote: Ever read the book, "Three Cups of Tea?" That's exactly what the author did, bomb them with schools and supplies. A well worth read. Should be read by those who disagree, though. Sounds interesting. Ever hear of "The Ugly American?" Read that in the early '60's. Basically about the commie threat in VN and playing local culture in a human, understanding way. One part I remembered being impressed with was how the hero American noted that the village women got hunchbacks as they aged - because they were using short reed brooms to sweep. He attached long sticks to the reeds to modernize their cleaning habits and prevent future hunchbacking. Though ugly physically, the hero was beautiful in thought and motive. Later as I became educated I saw that though there are different cultures, most humans are pretty much the same. Thinking back to that book I realized the broom stuff was pure bull**** - and condescending. In the theme of the book it wasn't meant to be. But it was. The biggest danger in trying to change a culture is condescension. Folks don't take kindly to that. And arrogance can make it hard to recognize in oneself. That's why I stay away from interfering or resisting other cultures, but just try to appreciate what I can. Maybe it can work when the locals go outside and come back to do it themselves. But I'm not much for nation building. Except by example. --Vic Since you can buy a used one for $4.85, I'd say it was money well spent. This book IS about defeating the Taliban and how to actually win in Afghanistan. http://www.amazon.com/Three-Cups-Tea...2624677&sr=1-1 |
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... On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:57:09 -0700, jps wrote: If we really wanted to get Bin Laden the best way would have been to ignore him until he stuck his head up and then just send in a small team to shoot him. We should have bombed Afghanistan with school supplies and other aid after the Soviets left. They would have handed Bin Laden's head to us on a plate. I really wonder how much of this is driven by women's rights groups and drug warriors. Ever read the book, "Three Cups of Tea?" That's exactly what the author did, bomb them with schools and supplies. A well worth read. Should be read by those who disagree, though. Could easily defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda with this method. But we don't make any money if we don't sell bombs and bullets. It's our national franchise! These days, arms are about the only thing we build here for export. Hell, the Chinese are even knocking off our M-14s and M-16s. ?? Something has changed.. $1.283 trillion f.o.b. (2008) industrial supplies, 29.8%; production machinery, 29.5%; non-auto consumer goods, 12.4%; motor vehicles and parts, 9.3%; food, feed and beverages, 8.3%; aircraft and parts, 6.6%; other, 4.1%. (2008) -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 10, 12:07*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message ... You oppose womens' rights? I support women's rights in this country but I don't think we have the right to invade another country and impose our culture on them. Tell that to Bush? Oh, too late.... It would have been cheaper to fly all the Afghani women who want their rights here and buy them a nail salon. Just a bit sexist, not to mention not much of an argument. How many billion do you think we have wasted in Afghanistan for virtually zero results? We have killed a lot of people but I don't think we are a bit safer for it. Thanks to Bush. Now we'll see what Obama can do. I am old enough to remember the Vietnam rhetoric and it was basically what we are hearing now. I was wrong then in supporting the war, I don't want to be on the wrong side again. It's a concern. My guess is that Obama has heard of VN. -- Nom=de=Plume You're blathers are becoming humourous. I'm glad you're amused. Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. *That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" |
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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 11, 12:38*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? No. But I belive you are thinking derisionally. -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? No one, "appointed" the President. However I considered that to be a good alternate to "President Elect" which you evidently have a problem in deciphering. Mr. Obama was "Elected" and therefore "President Elect" is a proper title. But it's possible you haven't understood that before. now. Uncanny revelation, eh? |
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. |
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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... On Sep 11, 12:38 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? No. But I belive you are thinking derisionally. -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? No one, "appointed" the President. However I considered that to be a good alternate to "President Elect" which you evidently have a problem in deciphering. Mr. Obama was "Elected" and therefore "President Elect" is a proper title. But it's possible you haven't understood that before. now. Uncanny revelation, eh? Are you foreign born and don't speak English all that well? Your definition is completely wrong: A president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:32:12 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 12:38 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? No. But I belive you are thinking derisionally. -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? No one, "appointed" the President. However I considered that to be a good alternate to "President Elect" which you evidently have a problem in deciphering. Mr. Obama was "Elected" and therefore "President Elect" is a proper title. But it's possible you haven't understood that before. now. Uncanny revelation, eh? Are you foreign born and don't speak English all that well? Your definition is completely wrong: A president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president. To quote Beavis and Butthead, the guy is a cornholio. |
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On Sep 11, 1:32*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 12:38 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? No. But I belive you are *thinking derisionally. -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? No one, "appointed" the President. However I considered that to be a good alternate to "President Elect" which you evidently have a problem in deciphering. Mr. Obama was "Elected" and therefore "President Elect" is a proper title. But it's possible you haven't understood that before. now. Uncanny revelation, eh? Are you foreign born and don't speak English all that well? You tell me. Your definition is completely wrong: A president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president. Not always. -- Nom=de=Plume (Pennie) |
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On Sep 12, 12:17*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:32:12 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 12:38 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message .... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? No. But I belive you are *thinking derisionally. -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? No one, "appointed" the President. However I considered that to be a good alternate to "President Elect" which you evidently have a problem in deciphering. Mr. Obama was "Elected" and therefore "President Elect" is a proper title. But it's possible you haven't understood that before. now. Uncanny revelation, eh? Are you foreign born and don't speak English all that well? Your definition is completely wrong: A president-elect is a political candidate who has been elected president but who has not yet been sworn in, or officially taken office, as it is still occupied by the current outgoing president. To quote Beavis and Butthead, the guy is a cornholio. A quote from two of your philosophical giants? |
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On Sep 11, 1:33*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message .... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" |
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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 12, 11:34*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message .... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." *I take it that his post reminded you of *"Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? *"The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? |
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"Tim" wrote in message
... On Sep 12, 11:34 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? President Obama? FYI, it's russian lit... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Sep 12, 7:33*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Sep 12, 11:34 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does *russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? President Obama? FYI, it's russian lit...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky -- Nom=de=Plume Well sometimes I dont' read between the lines very well, so how how does president Obama = russian literature? Really I am having a hart time folowing along. |
WOW!! Deja Vu all over again
On Sep 12, 7:33*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Sep 12, 11:34 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does *russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? President Obama? FYI, it's russian lit...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky -- Nom=de=Plume Thanks for that link, but i was correct on russian philosophy. if you take Wiki for truth. "was a Russian writer, essayist and philosopher," |
WOW!! Deja Vu all over again
"Tim" wrote in message
... On Sep 12, 7:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Sep 12, 11:34 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? President Obama? FYI, it's russian lit...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky -- Nom=de=Plume Thanks for that link, but i was correct on russian philosophy. if you take Wiki for truth. "was a Russian writer, essayist and philosopher," You were partially correct. Most people think lit when they think Dostoyevsky, but you're not most people, right? -- Nom=de=Plume |
WOW!! Deja Vu all over again
"Tim" wrote in message
... On Sep 12, 7:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Sep 12, 11:34 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? President Obama? FYI, it's russian lit...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky -- Nom=de=Plume Well sometimes I dont' read between the lines very well, so how how does president Obama = russian literature? Really I am having a hart time folowing along. Obama = Dostoyevsky's russian literary subject... Dostoyevsky's literary output explores human psychology in the troubled political, social and spiritual context of 19th-century Russian society. -- Nom=de=Plume |
WOW!! Deja Vu all over again
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:42:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Really I am having a hart time folowing along. Take two asprin and don't call me in the morning. Literally - don't call me in the morning. :) |
WOW!! Deja Vu all over again
On Sep 12, 8:30*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Sep 12, 7:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message .... On Sep 12, 11:34 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message .... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? President Obama? FYI, it's russian lit...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky -- Nom=de=Plume Thanks for that link, but i was correct on russian philosophy. if you take *Wiki for truth. "was a Russian writer, essayist and philosopher," You were partially correct. Most people think lit when they think Dostoyevsky, but you're not most people, right? -- Nom=de=Plume exactly! |
WOW!! Deja Vu all over again
On Sep 12, 8:40*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:42:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Really I am having a hart time folowing along. Take two asprin and don't call me in the morning. Literally - don't call me in the morning. *:) Tom, I think I'm past the aspirin stage, and no I won't call you in the morning. ?;^ ) |
WOW!! Deja Vu all over again
On Sep 12, 8:31*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Sep 12, 7:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message .... On Sep 12, 11:34 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message .... On Sep 11, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:38:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "TopBassDog" wrote in message ... Yes, let's see what your President-elect can do. That is, if he will do anything at all. President elect? Ummmm.... are you posting from the past? -- Nom=de=Plume Pennie, would you prefer "President-appointed?" I would prefer the facts of which you seem to be lacking. Who exactly appointed Pres. Obama? You'll quickly find your time wasted with this idiota, if you catch my Spanish drift. Dostoevsky! -- Nom=de=Plume Ah! I see you are addressing JPS. and you say-"Dostoevsky." I take it that his post reminded you of "Fyodor Dostoevsky?" So which of JPS' writings does he remind you of? "The Idiot?" or "The Possessed?" If you don't already know the answers to your questions, you'll never know. Misquoting Louis Armstrong if you didn't get it. -- Nom=de=Plume but what the heck does russian philosophy have to do with Louis Armstrong? President Obama? FYI, it's russian lit...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoyevsky -- Nom=de=Plume Well sometimes I dont' read between the lines very well, so how how does president Obama = russian literature? Really I am having a hart time folowing along. Obama = Dostoyevsky's russian literary subject... Dostoyevsky's literary output explores human psychology in the troubled political, social and spiritual context of 19th-century Russian society. -- Nom=de=Plume Was Obama alive then? LOL! |
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