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![]() Thank you, Glenn Beck. By helping force the resignation of Van Jones, you have done a great service to your country. But in the exact opposite way than what you intended. Your vile and vicious smear campaign has helped reverse one of the worst examples of miscasting since John Wayne took on the role of Genghis Khan in The Conqueror. Don't get me wrong: Van Jones was the best person for the job he just gave up. But the job was not the best use of Van Jones. Contrary to the media caricature, the real Van Jones is a thoughtful leader who knows how to use words to move people to action. To stick him behind a desk, working out the details of tax credits for green jobs -- incredibly important though the job is -- was never the best use of his unique and abundant skills. This is not an attempt to put a positive spin on an ugly episode. I've actually been feeling this way ever since Van told me he was taking this job. I remember going to the White House this spring for a briefing of journalists by David Axelrod. Before the meeting, Van and I met for a quick coffee and I was hit with the same overwhelming thought: how much we were going to miss his voice on the outside. Now, thanks to Glenn Beck, we've got that voice back. No longer tied to his desk with a sock in his mouth, Van is now freed to do what he does best: inspire and energize groups around the country. Student groups and labor groups and small business groups and middle class Americans everywhere who are losing jobs and losing homes and losing hope. He's free to push with all his might and insight for the vision tens of millions of Americans tirelessly worked for during the presidential campaign -- the vision they voted for in November -- but which is now in danger of being drowned in the fetid political swamps of Washington. If Glenn Beck had any sense at all, he would have done everything in his power to keep Van Jones right where he was. But he didn't. And for this we should all be grateful. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann..._b_278839.html |
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On Sep 8, 4:25*pm, jps wrote:
Thank you, Glenn Beck. By helping force the resignation of Van Jones, you have done a great service to your country. But in the exact opposite way than what you intended. Your vile and vicious smear campaign has helped reverse one of the worst examples of miscasting since John Wayne took on the role of Genghis Khan in The Conqueror. Don't get me wrong: Van Jones was the best person for the job he just gave up. But the job was not the best use of Van Jones. Contrary to the media caricature, the real Van Jones is a thoughtful leader who knows how to use words to move people to action. To stick him behind a desk, working out the details of tax credits for green jobs -- incredibly important though the job is -- was never the best use of his unique and abundant skills. This is not an attempt to put a positive spin on an ugly episode. I've actually been feeling this way ever since Van told me he was taking this job. I remember going to the White House this spring for a briefing of journalists by David Axelrod. Before the meeting, Van and I met for a quick coffee and I was hit with the same overwhelming thought: how much we were going to miss his voice on the outside. Now, thanks to Glenn Beck, we've got that voice back. No longer tied to his desk with a sock in his mouth, Van is now freed to do what he does best: inspire and energize groups around the country. Student groups and labor groups and small business groups and middle class Americans everywhere who are losing jobs and losing homes and losing hope. He's free to push with all his might and insight for the vision tens of millions of Americans tirelessly worked for during the presidential campaign -- the vision they voted for in November -- but which is now in danger of being drowned in the fetid political swamps of Washington. If Glenn Beck had any sense at all, he would have done everything in his power to keep Van Jones right where he was. But he didn't. And for this we should all be grateful. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann...you-glenn-beck... Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. Only a leftist could think a supporter of mass murder was good. jps who has advocated shooting tax protestors now thinks a supporter of mass murder is a good person, surprise surprise. jps at least has the decency of saying what he thinks unlike most lefties. When you consider that the left wants to kill its opponents and favors people who favor mass murder, is it any surprise they normally are for censorship of ideas they disagree with? |
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Frogwatch wrote:
.. Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. Only a leftist could think a supporter of mass murder was good. jps who has advocated shooting tax protestors now thinks a supporter of mass murder is a good person, surprise surprise. jps at least has the decency of saying what he thinks unlike most lefties. When you consider that the left wants to kill its opponents and favors people who favor mass murder, is it any surprise they normally are for censorship of ideas they disagree with? So, crazyman, how do you feel about the Bush Admin's murder of 100,000+ Iraqis? Oh, wait...that was *different* Right, crazyman? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 8, 4:37*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: . Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. *Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. *Only a leftist could think a supporter of mass murder was good. jps who has advocated shooting tax protestors now thinks a supporter of mass murder is a good person, surprise surprise. *jps at least has the decency of saying what he thinks unlike most lefties. *When you consider that the left wants to kill its opponents and favors people who favor mass murder, is it any surprise they normally are for censorship of ideas they disagree with? So, crazyman, how do you feel about the Bush Admin's murder of 100,000+ Iraqis? Oh, wait...that was *different* Right, crazyman? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All Van Jones crazy beliefs were well known to everybody who knew him. The FBI had a file on him. The Obama admin tries to say his was a case of botched vetting which raises the question: Was it incompetence or did they know they had hired someone who supported mass murder and was prone to conspiracy theories so wild they made flying suacer nuts seem sane. Based on the evidence, it seems to be both, incompetence flavored with extreme leftism. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 8, 4:37 pm, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: . Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. Only a leftist could think a supporter of mass murder was good. jps who has advocated shooting tax protestors now thinks a supporter of mass murder is a good person, surprise surprise. jps at least has the decency of saying what he thinks unlike most lefties. When you consider that the left wants to kill its opponents and favors people who favor mass murder, is it any surprise they normally are for censorship of ideas they disagree with? So, crazyman, how do you feel about the Bush Admin's murder of 100,000+ Iraqis? Oh, wait...that was *different* Right, crazyman? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All Van Jones crazy beliefs were well known to everybody who knew him. The FBI had a file on him. The Obama admin tries to say his was a case of botched vetting which raises the question: Was it incompetence or did they know they had hired someone who supported mass murder and was prone to conspiracy theories so wild they made flying suacer nuts seem sane. Based on the evidence, it seems to be both, incompetence flavored with extreme leftism. So, crazyman, how do you feel about the Bush Admin's murder of 100,000+ Iraqis? "The FBI had a file on him." snerk The FBI has a file on *every* political activist. D'oh. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Sep 8, 4:48*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 8, 4:37 pm, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: . Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. *Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. *Only a leftist could think a supporter of mass murder was good. jps who has advocated shooting tax protestors now thinks a supporter of mass murder is a good person, surprise surprise. *jps at least has the decency of saying what he thinks unlike most lefties. *When you consider that the left wants to kill its opponents and favors people who favor mass murder, is it any surprise they normally are for censorship of ideas they disagree with? So, crazyman, how do you feel about the Bush Admin's murder of 100,000+ Iraqis? Oh, wait...that was *different* Right, crazyman? -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All Van Jones crazy beliefs were well known to everybody who knew him. The FBI had a file on him. *The Obama admin tries to say his was a case of botched vetting which raises the question: *Was it incompetence or did they know they had hired someone who supported mass murder and was prone to conspiracy theories so wild they made flying suacer nuts seem sane. *Based on the evidence, it seems to be both, incompetence flavored with extreme leftism. So, crazyman, how do you feel about the Bush Admin's murder of 100,000+ Iraqis? "The FBI had a file on him." snerk The FBI has a file on *every* political activist. D'oh. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All I dont get the lefty obsession with this Glenn Beck (btw, where can I hear him so I will know what he says since no lefty can tell me). The removal of Van Jones was not the work of one person but of many who blogged about him. I believe the lefties are obsessed with Beck and Limbaugh due to lefty admiration of authority figures so they think anything effective must be the result of one BIG MAN. An example of this is in Oliver Stones admiration for Chavez. Stone is the ultimate lefty conspiracy theorist. Real cause and effect is too complicated for leftists so they invent conspiracies to explain reality in simpler terms. This is a lot like the role of religion in the lives of primitive peoples who had no grasp of science. Thus, lefties are really the modern day version of the religious types who blamed droughts on "the gods being unhappy". |
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:35:55 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. From the Limbaugh School of Attribution, Illogic and Wingnuttery. |
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:35:55 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:
Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. Are you sure you want to go there? This country, Ronald Reagan in particular, supported Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. http://www.media-criticism.com/Washi..._Pot_1998.html Only a leftist could think a supporter of mass murder was good. jps who has advocated shooting tax protestors now thinks a supporter of mass murder is a good person, surprise surprise. jps at least has the decency of saying what he thinks unlike most lefties. When you consider that the left wants to kill its opponents and favors people who favor mass murder, is it any surprise they normally are for censorship of ideas they disagree with? |
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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:35:55 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. Are you sure you want to go there? This country, Ronald Reagan in particular, supported Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. http://www.media-criticism.com/Washi..._Pot_1998.html This country has supported all manner of oppressive regimes, including those in the Soviet Union, the Peoples' Republic of China, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Panama, Chile, et cetera. Further, nothing Jones ever did competes on the scale of horror with the deeds of Dick Cheney. -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0400, H the K
wrote: thunder wrote: On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:35:55 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Van Jones is a self described Marxist and Communist, thus he looks favorably on a philosophy that intentionally murdered 100 million people. Thinking Van Jones is a good person is like thinking that someone who supported the Khmer Rough was a good person. Are you sure you want to go there? This country, Ronald Reagan in particular, supported Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge. http://www.media-criticism.com/Washi..._Pot_1998.html This country has supported all manner of oppressive regimes, including those in the Soviet Union, the Peoples' Republic of China, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Panama, Chile, et cetera. Further, nothing Jones ever did competes on the scale of horror with the deeds of Dick Cheney. You mean "The" Dick Cheney. |
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