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Despite the theatrics over health care reform, Andrew Sullivan says President Obama will ultimately get a bill through Congress. "Obama has a solid majority and can achieve all this with Democratic votes alone. So why is he in such trouble? Partly it is that this kind of reform rightly stirs scepticism, and Obama has allowed a hapless and divided Congress to take the lead, muddying the message. Partly it is that the hard right is becoming more and more extreme and its fears have eclipsed the hopes of Obama's supporters. But the most critical part, in my view, is the public understanding that after two massive bank bailouts and a vast stimulus package, with two still-intractable wars, the US cannot afford even the modest 10-year trilliondollar package Obama is proposing. And Obama's inability to cut spending while the economy is so fragile means he is constrained from offering fiscal reassurance." "So, tactically, Obama is on the defensive. Strategically? Again, he is stronger than he now appears. When the health insurance bill is passed and elderly Americans are not rounded up into concentration camps and granny isn't subjected to euthanasia, and when many uninsured people gain a peace of mind they have never felt before, and people become able to change job without fearing loss of insurance, the Republican scare tactics may come to seem absurd." |
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jps wrote:
the Republican scare tactics may come to seem absurd." They always have been. I think it's like a private joke, "Let's treat what Sara Palin says seriously just to **** them off." No matter how destructive it is. |
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:29:20 -0700, Jim wrote:
jps wrote: the Republican scare tactics may come to seem absurd." They always have been. I think it's like a private joke, "Let's treat what Sara Palin says seriously just to **** them off." No matter how destructive it is. I think the Democrats should parade all the paranoia and scare tactics the Republicans have trotted out every time the Dems try to improve life for the general public. We've have seen the end of civilization several times over if their sky-is-falling predictions came true. |
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jps wrote:
We've have seen the end of civilization several times over if their sky-is-falling predictions came true. When I see some obvious tactic work, like "The Big Lie," where you make up your own truth and stick to it until it's accepted, we all loose a little of our civilization. Haven't we seen this one? Why does no one point out the tactic. It's all laid out in your college "Critical Thinking" class. If you understand the tactics they don't work on you. It's the way it's always been, but we are supposed to get smart to these tactics. Like tobacco advertising. lol |
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Jim wrote:
jps wrote: the Republican scare tactics may come to seem absurd." They always have been. I think it's like a private joke, "Let's treat what Sara Palin says seriously just to **** them off." No matter how destructive it is. Yep, indoctrinate your children with a speech that is in no way political in nature. Kill your elderly. Kill babies. And on and on. I was listening to some guy that took Hannity's place today. The spinning about the speech is already starting, the trouble is, the only thing he could find to complain about, now that we know what's in the speech, is it's length! Yesterday it was a speech that will indoctrinate your children with Socialist viewpoints! |
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:24:30 -0700, Jim wrote:
jps wrote: We've have seen the end of civilization several times over if their sky-is-falling predictions came true. When I see some obvious tactic work, like "The Big Lie," where you make up your own truth and stick to it until it's accepted, we all loose a little of our civilization. Haven't we seen this one? Why does no one point out the tactic. It's all laid out in your college "Critical Thinking" class. If you understand the tactics they don't work on you. It's the way it's always been, but we are supposed to get smart to these tactics. Like tobacco advertising. lol Hence the disparity of voting habits between those who've had a reasonable education and those who can't understand when they're duped by propaganda. |
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jps wrote:
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:24:30 -0700, Jim wrote: jps wrote: We've have seen the end of civilization several times over if their sky-is-falling predictions came true. When I see some obvious tactic work, like "The Big Lie," where you make up your own truth and stick to it until it's accepted, we all loose a little of our civilization. Haven't we seen this one? Why does no one point out the tactic. It's all laid out in your college "Critical Thinking" class. If you understand the tactics they don't work on you. It's the way it's always been, but we are supposed to get smart to these tactics. Like tobacco advertising. lol Hence the disparity of voting habits between those who've had a reasonable education and those who can't understand when they're duped by propaganda. What? You weren't fooled by Sarah Palin, either? :) -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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... The current GOP insanity is similar to the "sky is falling" Democratic tirades about Bush. The sky was falling during Bush. We were spilling money and American blood on a hunt for oil. The trick is ignoring all of it and looking at the real problems, like the $.11,787,062,206,713.50 debt http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPD...pplication=np\ is reporting right now. Understood. Why are we so concerned about it when it's spent on our own welfare but blind to the debt when it's for a bull**** war? My thoughts exactly! But, some are still waging war against FDR. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:53:37 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:30:43 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:00:28 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 12:29:20 -0700, Jim wrote: jps wrote: the Republican scare tactics may come to seem absurd." They always have been. I think it's like a private joke, "Let's treat what Sara Palin says seriously just to **** them off." No matter how destructive it is. I think the Democrats should parade all the paranoia and scare tactics the Republicans have trotted out every time the Dems try to improve life for the general public. We've have seen the end of civilization several times over if their sky-is-falling predictions came true. The current GOP insanity is similar to the "sky is falling" Democratic tirades about Bush. The sky was falling during Bush. We were spilling money and American blood on a hunt for oil. The trick is ignoring all of it and looking at the real problems, like the $.11,787,062,206,713.50 debt http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPD...pplication=np\ is reporting right now. Understood. Why are we so concerned about it when it's spent on our own welfare but blind to the debt when it's for a bull**** war? Two sides of same mouth? You have never heard me say one good thing about any of these stupid wars ... since before the 1991 war. I warned any one who would listen, that one would be another Vietnam in 1991 ... and I was wrong by 8 years ... so far. We are 18 years and counting in Iraq. It was only 10 years between the Gulf of Tonkin and the helicopters on the roof. But...wars keep our boys in uniform and our military-industrial complex cooking... -- Birther-Deather-Tenther-Teabagger: Idiots All |
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