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... On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:09:08 -0400, Gene wrote: Nuclear energy sucks. It is dirty, dangerous, and expensive. I pay 30% more for the electricity running through this laptop sitting while I'm sitting on this couch, than I do at my other home which is served by a coal plant. That will not be true when Gore gets his cap and tax bill and your coal plant will pay double or triple for the coal. Al Gore is president? No wait, he's in Congress. No... I know. I know. He's on the Supreme Court! -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... George Soros owns the left.. He has bought and paid for them. I got the check last week. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:44:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That will not be true when Gore gets his cap and tax bill and your coal plant will pay double or triple for the coal. Al Gore is president? No wait, he's in Congress. No... I know. I know. He's on the Supreme Court! I originally typed "Obama" but I didn't want to keep slamming a guy who is basically a puppet for the people who put him in office. You notice he has backed off of all of his "change" rhetoric since his Jimmy Carter moment (roughly defined as the day he realized the president is largely a ceremonial office) Gore has their ear and is the high priest in the carbon tax crusade. That cult has taken over the left. How do you come to the conclusion that Obama is a puppet? The majority of Americans put him in office and by a wide margin in the electoral college. We'll see if he backs off his "change" rhetoric. It's not clear yet. If he does, e.g., giving away the public option to a bunch of right-wing stooges of the insurance industry (no, there are Democrats there also), he will lose his base. Not sure what Carter has to do with anything. He's been out of office for a while now. I was never a big fan of his. I guess it's got to be someone's fault, so Gore is it? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:31:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I originally typed "Obama" but I didn't want to keep slamming a guy who is basically a puppet for the people who put him in office. You notice he has backed off of all of his "change" rhetoric since his Jimmy Carter moment (roughly defined as the day he realized the president is largely a ceremonial office) Gore has their ear and is the high priest in the carbon tax crusade. That cult has taken over the left. How do you come to the conclusion that Obama is a puppet? The majority of Americans put him in office and by a wide margin in the electoral college. Every president since Nixon was a puppet of the monied people who put him in office. It is getting worse each cycle. Well, in that sense ok. Nobody comes up with a billion dollars without owing a lot of allegiance to a lot of rich people. You also have party pressures. That is what knocked down all of Carter's lofty goals. I only bring him up as an example of an "outside the beltway" guy who came to town promising to change the way government worked. He was ground up and reduced to a gray paste in 3 months, much like Mr Obama. The jury is still out with Obama. I hope it won't happen. We need it not to happen. I guess it's got to be someone's fault, so Gore is it Gore is the spiritual leader of the carbon tax cult, no more, no less. In that regard he is the democratic equivalent of Jerry Falwell or Rick Warren who also were not government officials but had a lot of influence on Bush's policies and controlled a lot of votes. I'm unconvinced by either those groups... carbon tax vs. cap and trade. I should read more about it. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 23:43:46 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 21:31:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I originally typed "Obama" but I didn't want to keep slamming a guy who is basically a puppet for the people who put him in office. You notice he has backed off of all of his "change" rhetoric since his Jimmy Carter moment (roughly defined as the day he realized the president is largely a ceremonial office) Gore has their ear and is the high priest in the carbon tax crusade. That cult has taken over the left. How do you come to the conclusion that Obama is a puppet? The majority of Americans put him in office and by a wide margin in the electoral college. Every president since Nixon was a puppet of the monied people who put him in office. It is getting worse each cycle. Well, in that sense ok. Nobody comes up with a billion dollars without owing a lot of allegiance to a lot of rich people. You also have party pressures. That is what knocked down all of Carter's lofty goals. I only bring him up as an example of an "outside the beltway" guy who came to town promising to change the way government worked. He was ground up and reduced to a gray paste in 3 months, much like Mr Obama. The jury is still out with Obama. I hope it won't happen. We need it not to happen. I guess it's got to be someone's fault, so Gore is it Gore is the spiritual leader of the carbon tax cult, no more, no less. In that regard he is the democratic equivalent of Jerry Falwell or Rick Warren who also were not government officials but had a lot of influence on Bush's policies and controlled a lot of votes. I'm unconvinced by either those groups... carbon tax vs. cap and trade. I should read more about it. We probably don't have much to argue about ;-) I'm sure we can find something! lol I stopped being a Republican about a year into the GHWB administration but I still can't be a Democrat. I stopped in high school. I really place the decline of America as starting about 1989-1990 and going steadily downhill since then. It started a bit before that... pre-1961: http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst3...ts/indust.html That was when we started looting our corporations in the name of increasing quarterly profit numbers. They were selling off capital assets, shipping the jobs offshore and calling it profit. By the mid 90s they had sold about everything there was to sell and they started this "money out of thin air" mumbo jumbo with financial instruments that grew in price but didn't actually build any value. The commodities modernization act of 2000, I spoke of earlier, really opened the door for abuse and it was unanimously passed by both houses with the endorsement of the White House. Only 4 congressmen opposed, it led by my hero, Ron Paul. Well, we don't have much to argue about. Ron Paul is a wacko, but at least a nice one. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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