nom=de=plume wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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And, it doesn't take into account the improvement to the atmosphere, small
though it is (if you really want a big improvement, severely restrict beef
sales), nor the improvement, also relatively small in the viability of the
auto manufacturers nor putting the breaks on a worsening job market.

Hate to break it to you, but most of the usable parts of the clunkers were
salvaged before the shredding. There was some loss to the secondary car
sales market, since they were removed from the mix.
Until you liberals get serious about nuclear energy, your 'improvement
to the atmosphere' comments are little more than humorous politics.


It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes years
to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.

Every day you delay the building of nuclear plants is another day the
citizens of the USA are sending money overseas for energy or burning
coal and oil.

When are you going to get serious about the actual problems.

When are you going to stop talking about the problem and start taking
action.

"BAR" wrote in message
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It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes
years to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.

Every day you delay the building of nuclear plants is another day the
citizens of the USA are sending money overseas for energy or burning coal
and oil.

True enough.


When are you going to get serious about the actual problems.

When are you going to stop talking about the problem and start taking
action.

The real solution is to stop eating so much meat. That would have an
immediate and positive effect. The other things take years.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:35:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
m...
It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes
years to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.

Every day you delay the building of nuclear plants is another day the
citizens of the USA are sending money overseas for energy or burning coal
and oil.

True enough.


When are you going to get serious about the actual problems.

When are you going to stop talking about the problem and start taking
action.

The real solution is to stop eating so much meat. That would have an
immediate and positive effect. The other things take years.

LOL, but I don't think you meant that as a joke.The liberal 'that
takes years' excuse has been in use for years. It's getting old.
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John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

"John H." wrote in message
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The real solution is to stop eating so much meat. That would have an
immediate and positive effect. The other things take years.

LOL, but I don't think you meant that as a joke.The liberal 'that
takes years' excuse has been in use for years. It's getting old.


Certainly no joke. Cows and such make up the bulk of the greenhouse gas
problem. Besides, the conditions that they are raised in are horrible. Who
would want to eat a cow after visiting a traditional stockyard? Someone once
said that it's better for the environment to eat a veggie burger in a Hummer
than a burger in a Prius.

Do you believe that putting a significant number of new nuke plants online
is going to happen in less than a decade?

Not that moving people from eating so much meat is fast process either, but
the benefits are much greater and not just for oil consumption.

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Nom=de=Plume

wrote in message
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On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:50:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Certainly no joke. Cows and such make up the bulk of the greenhouse gas
problem. Besides, the conditions that they are raised in are horrible. Who
would want to eat a cow after visiting a traditional stockyard? Someone
once
said that it's better for the environment to eat a veggie burger in a
Hummer
than a burger in a Prius.


All the more reason to take the Sarah Palin approach and hunt.
A deer is carbon neutral.


Shoot them from a helicopter. Better yet, get her unwed daughter with the
kid to do it.

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Nom=de=Plume

nom=de=plume wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...
It's not a complete solution or even a good partial solution. It takes
years to build power plants, and there's always the spent fuel problem.
Every day you delay the building of nuclear plants is another day the
citizens of the USA are sending money overseas for energy or burning coal
and oil.

True enough.

When are you going to get serious about the actual problems.
When are you going to stop talking about the problem and start taking
action.

The real solution is to stop eating so much meat. That would have an
immediate and positive effect. The other things take years.

It will cost you three or four times as much in energy to replace the
animal protein with plant protein.

"BAR" wrote in message
...
The real solution is to stop eating so much meat. That would have an
immediate and positive effect. The other things take years.

It will cost you three or four times as much in energy to replace the
animal protein with plant protein.


?? From where do you get such notions... the moon?

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Nom=de=Plume