Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:19:00 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

In article ,
says...

A bit over 7 months now.
And thus far no terrorist attacks on the Homeland.
If Obama keeps us safe for 11 more days he'll prove he's a better man
at protecting the citizens of the United States of America from
massive terrorist attack during the first year in office than was GWB.
Then we go from there to other record settings, for good or bad.
I'm keeping score.

--Vic

Holy ****! That is the 88888888 thing you have ever said.. Fact is,
BinLaden didn't start planning 911 on Jan 20, 01 and you know it...
Please don't step into W3fhs' mold of bumper sticker mentality.

I remember watching the towers come down and the horror of seeing all
those innocent people killed. I was ****ed that our leadership
allowed that to happen. Didn't give a thought to Bill Clinton.
If something like that happens again I won't give a thought to GWB.
It'll be on Obama's back. I won't care if it was planned while GWB
was in office.
Same with the economy. It's Obama's economy.
I'm not blaming GWB for escalating unemployment.
GWB is gone. Obama is responsible.
You guys can blame whoever want for whatever you want.
Don't bother me. Freedom of speech.
It was Dick Cheney boasting/lying about him keeping us safe for "8
years" that got me thinking about the scorecard.
Facts is facts.

--Vic

So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:

So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?

Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Who's going to influence today and forward?
GWB or BO?
Only one answer to that.
We get only one decider at a time.
Everybody knows that BO inherited a decrepit house.
Up to him to fix it up or let it deteriorate further.
That's all I'm saying.
A leader has to lead. Frankly, he's starting to disappoint me.
And I've got examples where he's already failed.
The health care fix isn't going well, and he hasn't come out and
appealed to employers and employees to accept pay reductions instead
of job terminations. For patriotic reasons.
That's what a leader does.
And it's doable with the bully pulpit, and he never let out a peep.
Some smart company leadership does that themselves, but others need
prodding. Didn't work with the union maintenance staff where my
brother works, because the union voted it down. So some got
terminated. What that leads to is unemployment draining the gov
coffers, and defaults on loans and mortgages, loss of health
insurance, etc.
Obama could have influenced them and many others who are now
unemployed.
He's done nothing that I've yet seen to reinvigorate manufacturing,
whose loss is at the root of our economic problems.
He's way too tied up with the Wall Street jokers who got us here.
His cabinet is rotten with that trash.
But he's got some time to get it right.
Up to him. GWB is gone. Believe it or not.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?

Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.

Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?

Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.

Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--
Calling an Illegal Alien an "Undocumented Worker" is like calling a
Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist"

John H

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--

Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--

Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are
thinking alike on this issue.

As long as we all understand whose war it is now.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--

Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are
thinking alike on this issue.

As long as we all understand whose war it is now.

Well, the real Barak is not hard to figure out. He has decades of books
and speeches to look at, just ignore anything he said while he was in
campaign mode...
--
Wafa free since 2009

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.
Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--
Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are
thinking alike on this issue.

As long as we all understand whose war it is now.
--
John H

Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone
started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first
place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no
bearing on what happens now?

In article ,
says...

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--

Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

Yeah, it only got "right" after Jan. 20.. as did so many other things he
campaigned against... snerk

--
Wafa free since 2009

On Sep 2, 2:32*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:


Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--


because we know bush ****ed it up so bad that we now have to clean the
mess up before we leave. i know that, to rednecks, they think liberals
want to cut and run, but that shows how little rednecks know about
anything