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says... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: Indeed - lets talk pesky facts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/ The model for Obama care. http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/ http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/ Did we mention rationing? http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html Then there are the facts. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its- But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system. http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html Did we talk about death panels yet? http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1 And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html Facts are pesky indeed. You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing out about health care reform. Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"... snerk Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week. Are they anywhere near you? http://www.mtfmx.com/ If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and concentration... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNFT19FC7K.DTL A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan "will be paid for." Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by saying, "Bush lied". Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections of the act should be quoted. yeah, remember Obama said "we are by that now, we are looking forward" in reference to the rebirth of the new investigation of the CIA.. Just because they have to deflect for Pelosi who lied to congress about them.... snerk spin, spin spin..... Spin ****ing nothing.. He said he was by it, now he is back to it, what there is spin?? Things change, people change their minds. It's the way things get ironed out. In my line of work, I change typical details that I've used for years because things change like design guidelines, etc. Just last month he said he was not going to go back and override the reviews already done by the DOJ... It's pure politics and it will backfire, trust me. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: Indeed - lets talk pesky facts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...082502734.html http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...te-house-deal/ The model for Obama care. http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar..._in_cou ntry/ http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...h_insuran ce/ Did we mention rationing? http://www.californiahealthline.org/...e-Efforts.aspx However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...he_massac.html Then there are the facts. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...ilblazing-its- But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system. http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...nce_rates.html Did we talk about death panels yet? http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1 And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html Facts are pesky indeed. You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing out about health care reform. Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"... snerk Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week. Are they anywhere near you? http://www.mtfmx.com/ If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and concentration... Your kid wants to drop out of school to attend full-time motorcycle riding school? Well, that sort of figures... |
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On Sep 1, 8:45 am, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:54:08 -0500, thunder wrote: On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:22:39 -0500, jpjccd wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:56:50 -0700, Jim wrote: In fairness, the budget surplus was due to both parties cooperating. It only took one party a few months to undue the surplus. Which one was that? Any reasonable debate will not be enhanced by citing cynical, biased pieces written by partisans. There has never been a "surplus." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt Not true. You can have a *budget* surplus and still have debt. Bush did inherit a $128 billion surplus. Not true? I will accept that if you can show me where I have stated anything that is factually incorrect. Since I'm waging a war on disingenuous semantics, you should also be able to show me where I used the term "budget surplus." If you can do that, I may even be willing to concede your "not true" indictment. Still, just for a little bit of morning amusement, I'll proffer this; "The only debt that matters is the total national debt. You can have a surplus and a debt at the same time, but you can't have a surplus if the amount of debt is going up each year. And the national debt went up every single year under Clinton. Had Clinton really had a surplus the national debt would have gone down. It didn't go down precisely because Clinton had a deficit every single year. The U.S. Treasury's historical record of the national debt verifies this. A balanced budget or a budget surplus is a great thing, but it's only relevant if the budget surplus turns into a real surplus at the end of the fiscal year. In Clinton's case, it never did." it also matters if the rate at which the debt is increasing is increasing (think 2nd derivative). and if you pay only interest on debt the debt doesn't decrease. but if you borrow and spend like the radical republicans did, THEN the debt increases and bush and reagan were the biggest spenders in US history |
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On Sep 1, 9:47*am, H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: Indeed - lets talk pesky facts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/08/25/AR200.... http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...tals-see-profi.... The model for Obama care. http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar...ay_state_healt.... http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas.../2009/08/15/30.... Did we mention rationing? http://www.californiahealthline.org/...Budget-Pressur.... However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr..._boston_globe_.... Then there are the facts. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...on-globe-story.... But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system. http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...egon_health_in.... Did we talk about death panels yet? http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1 And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html Facts are pesky indeed. You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing out about health care reform. Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"... snerk Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week. Are they anywhere near you? http://www.mtfmx.com/ If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and concentration... Your kid wants to drop out of school to attend full-time motorcycle riding school? Well, that sort of figures...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nice post for a test..... to you I say, it's really too bad your kids never had dreams... My daughter was about 6 maybe 7 years old when she decided she wanted to fly. She spent hours and days in the back yard, jumping and running, finally we built a pair of "wings" for her to try... This all went on for months and not once did my wife or I tell her she couldn't do it. She is a smart kid, we figured someday she would find a way and now she has... She knows it's not reality to go to MTF right now, but we have taken on a habit of never telling her "never"... You wouldn't understand, and if you did, you wouldn't have it in you to admit it. Too bad really your kids never did anything worth bragging about, I mean, you do brag about everything else, one can only assume.... Later ****head.. This is a test of beta 2.9.1.1 or something like that, it should kill this post all together simply because you are in it.. buh, bye... |
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On Sep 1, 9:34*am, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8/31/MNFT19FC7... A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan "will be paid for." Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by saying, "Bush lied". Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections of the act should be quoted. yeah, remember Obama said "we are by that now, we are looking forward" in reference to the rebirth of the new investigation of the CIA.. Just because they have to deflect for Pelosi who lied to congress about them.... snerk spin, spin spin..... Spin ****ing nothing.. He said he was by it, now he is back to it, what there is spin?? Things change, people change their minds. It's the way things get ironed out. In my line of work, I change typical details that I've used for years because things change like design guidelines, etc.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Test... No, you are not blocked................yet ![]() |
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In article d15b11c3-d7af-4a0a-9336-
, says... On Sep 1, 9:34*am, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...8/31/MNFT19FC7... A quote, "President Obama, meanwhile, has said don't worry, the plan "will be paid for." Here's the problem. For too many questions, the answer is, "Obama said so." Obama lies. Even you liberals know that, but you condone it by saying, "Bush lied". Obama should not be used for any statements. The appropriate sections of the act should be quoted. yeah, remember Obama said "we are by that now, we are looking forward" in reference to the rebirth of the new investigation of the CIA.. Just because they have to deflect for Pelosi who lied to congress about them.... snerk spin, spin spin..... Spin ****ing nothing.. He said he was by it, now he is back to it, what there is spin?? Things change, people change their minds. It's the way things get ironed out. In my line of work, I change typical details that I've used for years because things change like design guidelines, etc.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Test... No, you are not blocked................yet ![]() Yeah! This version works... I set up my filters to block not only WAFA, but any replies to anything he posts. Just did a couple of tests and it seems to be working, the last version let some through. I will keep you posted, later. RMR.. Home of kiddie racing and all sorts of other dreams... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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On Sep 1, 9:47*am, H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: Indeed - lets talk pesky facts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/08/25/AR200.... http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...tals-see-profi.... The model for Obama care. http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar...ay_state_healt.... http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas.../2009/08/15/30.... Did we mention rationing? http://www.californiahealthline.org/...Budget-Pressur.... However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr..._boston_globe_.... Then there are the facts. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...on-globe-story.... But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system. http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...egon_health_in.... Did we talk about death panels yet? http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1 And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html Facts are pesky indeed. You've done a VERY good job at what John would probably describe as Obama derangement syndrome and have also done well at avoiding mentioning anything about the lies that the conservatives are dishing out about health care reform. Cause every time you note one, it turns out to be an "is, is" thing.. We call 'em "death panels", and you call 'em "end of life panels"... snerk Well, last day of summer for me and the kids.. bummer. The Mouse wants to spend a year at Millsap, yeah right, maybe a week. Are they anywhere near you? http://www.mtfmx.com/ If you notice, they cross train with Jiu-Jitsu for strength, and concentration... Your kid wants to drop out of school to attend full-time motorcycle riding school? Well, that sort of figures...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - second test.... |
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On Sep 1, 9:24*am, NotNow wrote:
John H. wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:37:15 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:46:05 -0400, NotNow wrote: Indeed - lets talk pesky facts. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...09/08/25/AR200.... http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.c...tals-see-profi.... The model for Obama care. http://www.boston.com/news/health/ar...ay_state_healt.... http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas.../2009/08/15/30.... Did we mention rationing? http://www.californiahealthline.org/...Budget-Pressur.... However, to be fair, here's your side of the issue. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr..._boston_globe_.... Then there are the facts. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blu...on-globe-story.... But let's not stop there - another "obamacare" type system. http://www.oregonlive.com/business/i...egon_health_in.... Did we talk about death panels yet? http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1 And of course, the best one of all - gambling for health care. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334813,00.html Facts are pesky indeed. Shame on you. They're not 'death panels', they're 'end of life' panels. Any astute individual could figure out that 'end of life' has absolutely nothing to do with death. -- John H Just remember, we also want to eat your babies. Right after we kill the elderly.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - second test |
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