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NotNow[_3_] August 27th 09 07:18 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...marketing.Ban/

Frogwatch August 27th 09 09:53 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
On Aug 27, 2:18*pm, NotNow wrote:
Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

*http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina....Telemarketing....


You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.

Keith nuttle August 27th 09 11:21 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 27, 2:18 pm, NotNow wrote:
Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina....Telemarketing...


You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.


There is a big difference in taking over a company because they disagree
with the type of cars they make;
forcing financial institution to make unsound loans to deadbeats for
houses they cannot afford and then not do anything about those loans
when the financial institution chocks on them;
force every body in to government insurance programs that per the
authors own publications will distribute health care based on the age
and condition of the individual. (Even obama said on TV he did not
think a 100 year old woman should have received a pacemaker five years ago)

AND upholding the constitution and prevent companies from intruding on
the private lives of voters.

However since this activity is not specified as a Federal government
activity per the Constitution, it is the states prerogative to deal or
not deal with this issue. I agree with you that the Federal FTC should
but out.

nom=de=plume August 27th 09 11:34 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.



Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume



BAR[_2_] August 28th 09 12:09 AM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
NotNow wrote:
Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...marketing.Ban/



The robo callers have gotten in quite a few at my house just before the
prohibition goes into effect.

Vic Smith August 28th 09 02:01 AM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:09:05 -0400, BAR wrote:

NotNow wrote:
Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...marketing.Ban/



The robo callers have gotten in quite a few at my house just before the
prohibition goes into effect.



Since I put my number on the "don't call" list I don't get any
marketing calls except for the occasional charity or pol.

--Vic

JustWait August 28th 09 03:12 AM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
In article ,
says...

Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...marketing.Ban/

How many more laws squashing freedom of speech do you guys want? And
when are you going to stop the bull**** that the repubs want this or
that?

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait August 28th 09 03:19 AM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
In article , says...

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 27, 2:18 pm, NotNow wrote:
Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina....Telemarketing...

You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.


There is a big difference in taking over a company because they disagree
with the type of cars they make;
forcing financial institution to make unsound loans to deadbeats for
houses they cannot afford and then not do anything about those loans
when the financial institution chocks on them;
force every body in to government insurance programs that per the
authors own publications will distribute health care based on the age
and condition of the individual. (Even obama said on TV he did not
think a 100 year old woman should have received a pacemaker five years ago)

AND upholding the constitution and prevent companies from intruding on
the private lives of voters.

However since this activity is not specified as a Federal government
activity per the Constitution, it is the states prerogative to deal or
not deal with this issue. I agree with you that the Federal FTC should
but out.


Yeah, I feel the same way but our dem frinds here have already decided
that we don't, simply because that would not suit there rhetoric. I
mean, how dare we sit outside their mold!! Of course reaching across the
isle or compromise is something our present democrat congress and many
liberal Americans don't understand, or don't want to out of pure
elitism... But what the hey, we all know it's Bush's fault that Obama is
a liar surrounded by tax cheats and other crims... convicted or
otherwise...

--
Wafa free since 2009

Calif Bill[_2_] August 28th 09 07:29 AM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.



Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.



JustWait August 28th 09 11:11 AM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
In article ,
says...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.



Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.


You are just not allowed here to address the direct lies Obama told to
get elected... Half of the country knew he was full of ****, I mean, one
and one is still two but please, please stop pointing out the direct and
deliberate lies...

--
Wafa free since 2009

thunder August 28th 09 12:10 PM

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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:21:00 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:


However since this activity is not specified as a Federal government
activity per the Constitution, it is the states prerogative to deal or
not deal with this issue. I agree with you that the Federal FTC should
but out.


It is specifically addressed in the Constitution. Sec. 8 - Powers of
Congress:

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States,
and with the Indian Tribes;

Unless those Robo-calls are intrastate, they are under the purview of the
FTC.

thunder August 28th 09 12:18 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:29:16 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His
promise of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public?
Nope. No lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope.
9000 in one bill.


http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.

The Fish August 28th 09 12:22 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:18:19 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:29:16 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His
promise of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public?
Nope. No lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope.
9000 in one bill.


http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.


You folks are simply amazing.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

H the K[_2_] August 28th 09 12:50 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:29:16 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His
promise of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public?
Nope. No lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope.
9000 in one bill.


http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.



You're dealing with one of the many right-wing retardos here, in case
you didn't realize it. Their "level" is set by intellectuals like
JustWait, who is dumber than the proverbial post and thinks he has to
prove it every day; herring, who changes his ID here more often than his
socks; flajim, aka yellowstains; lu powell, whose nickname "lu-ser" is
spot-on, and a few others. If you gathered them up for a game of seven
card stud, none of them would be able to shuffle the cards.

JustWait August 28th 09 02:02 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:29:16 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His
promise of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public?
Nope. No lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope.
9000 in one bill.


http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.


Oh my.. Hope my kids don't read this.. They have already graduated
kindergarten...

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] August 28th 09 02:10 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:29:16 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His
promise of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public?
Nope. No lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope.
9000 in one bill.

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.


Oh my.. Hope my kids don't read this.. They have already graduated
kindergarten...



How many grade repeats did it take?

NotNow[_3_] August 28th 09 03:15 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Seeing how most conservatives don't want the government intruding on
private business, I wonder how THIS will spin?

The FTC is going to force companies to stop making robo-call sales
calls......

Damned liberals. Now they want people to be able to enjoy their after
work evenings......

http://www.comcast.net/articles/fina...marketing.Ban/

How many more laws squashing freedom of speech do you guys want? And
when are you going to stop the bull**** that the repubs want this or
that?

Do you not want smaller government and less interference with private
business?

NotNow[_3_] August 28th 09 03:26 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.

Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.


You are just not allowed here to address the direct lies Obama told to
get elected... Half of the country knew he was full of ****, I mean, one
and one is still two but please, please stop pointing out the direct and
deliberate lies...

But, YOU said that Bush was history, therefore irrelevant. What Obama
said is also history, therefore, irrelevant...

NotNow[_3_] August 28th 09 03:29 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.

Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.


You are just not allowed here to address the direct lies Obama told to
get elected... Half of the country knew he was full of ****, I mean, one
and one is still two but please, please stop pointing out the direct and
deliberate lies...

Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/


JustWait August 28th 09 03:45 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.

Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.


You are just not allowed here to address the direct lies Obama told to
get elected... Half of the country knew he was full of ****, I mean, one
and one is still two but please, please stop pointing out the direct and
deliberate lies...

But, YOU said that Bush was history, therefore irrelevant. What Obama
said is also history, therefore, irrelevant...


Uh, no.. That was someone else.. I said, "bad behavior is not an excuse
for more bad behavior". You really do put us all in one bucket don't
you?

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait August 28th 09 03:49 PM

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In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.

Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.


You are just not allowed here to address the direct lies Obama told to
get elected... Half of the country knew he was full of ****, I mean, one
and one is still two but please, please stop pointing out the direct and
deliberate lies...

Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/


So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...


--
Wafa free since 2009

nom=de=plume August 28th 09 07:19 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.



Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.



Compared to Bush, it's hard to complain Obama's lack of follow-through. I
think you're mostly talking about Congress, which is not under White House
control. At least not any more.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume August 28th 09 07:22 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
"JustWait" wrote in message
...
Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/


So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...



In the scheme of things, I'm impressed with Obama's work and follow-through.

FYI, Scooter didn't spend a day in jail. Convicted and walking around to
this day. What he did was treason in my and others' opinion. Cheney was
probably at the center of it. Even Bush couldn't stomach actually pardoning
Scooter, for which I give his $0.01 credit.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume August 28th 09 07:26 PM

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"The Fish" wrote in message
...
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.


You folks are simply amazing.



How so? These are facts.

--
Nom=de=Plume



John H.[_9_] August 28th 09 08:14 PM

Uh, oh, most conservatives aren't going to like this!!!!
 
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:19:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.


Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.



Compared to Bush, it's hard to complain Obama's lack of follow-through. I
think you're mostly talking about Congress, which is not under White House
control. At least not any more.


More 'Bush Rationale'.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

John H.[_9_] August 28th 09 08:15 PM

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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:26:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"The Fish" wrote in message
.. .
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.


You folks are simply amazing.



How so? These are facts.


Never mind.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

NotNow[_3_] August 28th 09 09:20 PM

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JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.
Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.
You are just not allowed here to address the direct lies Obama told to
get elected... Half of the country knew he was full of ****, I mean, one
and one is still two but please, please stop pointing out the direct and
deliberate lies...

Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/


So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...


So far he's squeeky clean compared to what we had before. Scooter Libby
went to jail for forgetting one date? Are you freakin' serious?? He was
a damned traitor who outed a CIA agent.

nom=de=plume August 28th 09 10:00 PM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:26:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"The Fish" wrote in message
. ..
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in
the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.

You folks are simply amazing.



How so? These are facts.


Never mind.



Don't feel bad. Even liberals occasionally make an error.

--
Nom=de=Plume



JustWait August 28th 09 11:51 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:26:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"The Fish" wrote in message
.. .
http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.

You folks are simply amazing.



How so? These are facts.


Never mind.


So 7 is ok.. I will be sure to teach my kids that...snerk Here we are
and all along I thought one was bad...

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait August 28th 09 11:56 PM

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In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
You actually mean the FTC will finally do their job? You mean they
will finally earn their bloated salaries instead of on-the-job-
retirement? I am truly shocked.
Quick explanation of why: The adults are back in charge in DC.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Crooked, non believable adults. Obama's credibility is shot. His promise
of 5 days before signing for a bill to be read by the public? Nope. No
lobbiests in his administration? Nope. No Earmarks? Nope. 9000 in one
bill.
You are just not allowed here to address the direct lies Obama told to
get elected... Half of the country knew he was full of ****, I mean, one
and one is still two but please, please stop pointing out the direct and
deliberate lies...

Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/


So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...


So far he's squeeky clean compared to what we had before. Scooter Libby
went to jail for forgetting one date? Are you freakin' serious?? He was
a damned traitor who outed a CIA agent.


Nope, Armitage outed the agent to Novak. At least read a little before
spewing out. You are the one who want's to assure that nobody is called
guilty until convicted, but I guess when it comes to repubs you can call
them "traitor who outed a CIA agent" because he is a republican, even
though he got convicted of providing false information, that's all. Now
if you want to convict someone of outing CIA agents, let's have an
investigation into the recent activity by the ACLU following real covert
agents home, photographing them and their families, and showing them to
prisoners and admitted AlQueda agents at Gitmo. And before you deflect,
please go to their page and read the admission in their own words. OJ is
innocent even though he was found responsible in court, but Scooter is
guilty of "treason" even though he didn't get convicted of anything near
that.. Man, your double standard showing...

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] August 29th 09 12:01 AM

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JustWait wrote:


Nope, Armitage outed the agent to Novak. At least read a little before
spewing out. You are the one who want's to assure that nobody is called
guilty until convicted, but I guess when it comes to repubs you can call
them "traitor who outed a CIA agent" because he is a republican, even
though he got convicted of providing false information, that's all. Now
if you want to convict someone of outing CIA agents, let's have an
investigation into the recent activity by the ACLU following real covert
agents home, photographing them and their families, and showing them to
prisoners and admitted AlQueda agents at Gitmo. And before you deflect,
please go to their page and read the admission in their own words. OJ is
innocent even though he was found responsible in court, but Scooter is
guilty of "treason" even though he didn't get convicted of anything near
that.. Man, your double standard showing...



Moron.

nom=de=plume August 29th 09 05:23 AM

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"JustWait" wrote in message
...
I don't know, but 7 broken promises compared to 7 pages of kept or in
the
works promises, seems pretty high in the credibility department.

You folks are simply amazing.


How so? These are facts.


Never mind.


So 7 is ok.. I will be sure to teach my kids that...snerk Here we are
and all along I thought one was bad...

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I don't believe he said that 7 was ok. He said that the comparision is
remarkable.

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Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume August 29th 09 05:25 AM

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"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.


Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.



I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.

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John H.[_9_] August 29th 09 12:19 PM

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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.


Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.



I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.


Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

Arrr Matey. It'sJim August 29th 09 01:50 PM

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H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote:


Nope, Armitage outed the agent to Novak. At least read a little before
spewing out. You are the one who want's to assure that nobody is
called guilty until convicted, but I guess when it comes to repubs you
can call them "traitor who outed a CIA agent" because he is a
republican, even though he got convicted of providing false
information, that's all. Now if you want to convict someone of outing
CIA agents, let's have an investigation into the recent activity by
the ACLU following real covert agents home, photographing them and
their families, and showing them to prisoners and admitted AlQueda
agents at Gitmo. And before you deflect, please go to their page and
read the admission in their own words. OJ is innocent even though he
was found responsible in court, but Scooter is guilty of "treason"
even though he didn't get convicted of anything near that.. Man, your
double standard showing...



Moron.


That's your opinion. And, of course, we know how worthless your opinions
and positions are.

NotNow[_3_] August 29th 09 03:15 PM

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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.
Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.


I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.


Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

Just think, a year ago, it was Clinton screwed up, therefore Bush's
screwups are OK.

John H.[_9_] August 29th 09 03:19 PM

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On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:15:49 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.
Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.

I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.


Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

Just think, a year ago, it was Clinton screwed up, therefore Bush's
screwups are OK.


Bush's screwup were never OK. Get your head out of the sand.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

JustWait August 29th 09 03:31 PM

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In article ,
says...

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:25:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
Not really. I'm making a direct comparison, which is certainly a
reasonable
thing to do.

Claiming it's Bush Rationale isn't much of a logical argument, since it
can
be interpreted many different ways.
Justifying Obama's actions by comparing to Bush's actions is making
use of the 'Bush Rationale'.

Don't feel bad. You're in great company. Harry approves.

I can't speak for other people, but I'm not justifying any actions. I'm
making a direct comparison. At the end of 8 (I'm hopeful) years, we can
compare the records more completely. For now, there are some obvious
comparisons possible.


Call it what you will. It is what it is.

"Bush screwed up, therefore Obama's screwups are OK."

Give me a break.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

Just think, a year ago, it was Clinton screwed up, therefore Bush's
screwups are OK.


Bull****... Just plain bull****...

--
Wafa free since 2009

BAR[_2_] August 29th 09 06:17 PM

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message
...
Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/

So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...



In the scheme of things, I'm impressed with Obama's work and follow-through.

FYI, Scooter didn't spend a day in jail. Convicted and walking around to
this day. What he did was treason in my and others' opinion. Cheney was
probably at the center of it. Even Bush couldn't stomach actually pardoning
Scooter, for which I give his $0.01 credit.


Go back and check the facts of that whole episode and you will find that
no crime was committed. Libby was caught in a purgery trap due to his
own arrogance and hubris.


JustWait August 29th 09 06:43 PM

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In article ,
says...

nom=de=plume wrote:
"JustWait" wrote in message
...
Take a look at this, seems he's actually doing a pretty damned good job
of keeping his promises:

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/browse/
So, a few little lies here and there shouldn't taint a mans status?..
Tell me again why Scooter Libby went to jail again for forgetting one
date, years earlier? Double standard...



In the scheme of things, I'm impressed with Obama's work and follow-through.

FYI, Scooter didn't spend a day in jail. Convicted and walking around to
this day. What he did was treason in my and others' opinion. Cheney was
probably at the center of it. Even Bush couldn't stomach actually pardoning
Scooter, for which I give his $0.01 credit.


Go back and check the facts of that whole episode and you will find that
no crime was committed. Libby was caught in a purgery trap due to his
own arrogance and hubris.


double standard... not worth addressing...

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Wafa free since 2009


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