"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:29 -0400, NotNow wrote:


So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

Ted Kennedy was a veteran.

Well, sort of. Right after he was expelled from Harvard for cheating, he
enlisted for four years, then got the old man to get his hitch shortened to
two. While most Army recruits were headed to Korea and other hot spots,
Kennedy went to France. After two years service, he was still a Private.

Lu Powell wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:29 -0400, NotNow wrote:


So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

Ted Kennedy was a veteran.

Well, sort of. Right after he was expelled from Harvard for cheating, he
enlisted for four years, then got the old man to get his hitch shortened
to two. While most Army recruits were headed to Korea and other hot
spots, Kennedy went to France. After two years service, he was still a
Private.



Give the guy credit for whatever amount of time he was willing to spend
serving his country. I heard on one of the news wires it was more like
16 months.

Lu Powell wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:29 -0400, NotNow wrote:


So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

Ted Kennedy was a veteran.

Well, sort of. Right after he was expelled from Harvard for cheating, he
enlisted for four years, then got the old man to get his hitch shortened
to two. While most Army recruits were headed to Korea and other hot
spots, Kennedy went to France. After two years service, he was still a
Private.





Kennedy spent 47 years serving his country in the U.S. Senate. You left
that Carolina PD after a few years. And your departure was "sudden."

NotNow wrote:
JLH wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JLH wrote:
Jordon
Katie Ohara wrote:

If I am ever in MA, I will make a real attempt to spit on his grave
Spit on anyones grave in Arlington Cemetery (which is where
he's going) and I'm sure there will be plenty of people
around that will make sure that you see the error of your
ways.
Guards do not patrol the cemetery. Only the tomb of the unknown
soldier is guarded. There may be people walking around, but not to
enforce appropriate behavior.
I'm well aware of the type of people you find at Arlington
and I wasn't talking about guards. I was talking about all
the living veterans that are there visiting that would not
take too kindly to someone spitting on the grave of a fellow
veteran.

I was not in the military but I have been to Arlington. I'm
not a religious guy but it was probably the closest thing to
a "religious experience" that I've ever had, and if I saw
someone spitting on the grave of a veteran, no matter their
political affiliation, at the very least, there would be
words exchanged.

And I feel the same way. But, Arlington is seldom crowded, and there
are many times when no one is around or is watching.

If I saw someone spitting on the grave of a fellow veteran, I'd react
like you would.
Ted Kennedy? --

So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

If you're not a veteran, the only way you get into Arlington
is walking through the front gate.

--
Jordon

H the K wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I consider it an insult to be lumped in with a coward like Ted
Kennedy. I hope he suffered no more and no less than Miss Kopechne
and I hope his hypocrisy is judged fairly in any afterlife.

Your idea that his protracted death from cancer is comparable to a
five minute drowning is ridiculous. Look up cancer treatment side
effects, such as x-rays to the throat and never swallowing anything
solid again. Some cancer victims have had the nurses getting high on
their pain medicine while they did without.

Casady


Teddy Kennedy was an alcoholic, and it took him a long time and a good
second marriage to get that disease under control. While an active
drinker, he had a horrific automobile accident and in that an innocent
young woman died.

Teddy Kennedy should have owned up to what he had done wrong at the time
he did it. But, he was a coward and went and hid behind his family and
lawyers. Teddy should have served time in prison.

But that was only one of the albatrosses around Kennedy's neck. One of
his brothers died in World War II, and two were assassinated while in
the service of their country. There are other members of his immediate
family who suffer or suffered from various serious illnesses.

Sounds like a normal family with the exception of the assinations.
However, when you put yourself in the public eye and make as many
enemies as papa Joseph Kennedy bad things are bound to happen.

Despite all this, Teddy Kennedy was the *leading* legislator in the
United States Senate, and he was a great humanitarian, a loyal friend,
and a wonderfully decent man.

Decent? Killing MaryJo Kopechne and makeing watress sandwiches at DC
bars with Sen. Chris Dodd? Oh, and let's not forget about that incident
in southern Florida with his nephew.

He may have been trying to atone for his sins but, he was hardly decent.


I didn't know him at all, though I did get to meet him at a couple of
holiday parties in the early 2000's...where he had nothing to drink, and
we did nod at each other when he was out walking his dogs. His walks
would often take him to an office building near Union Station where I
worked as a consultant. He had many old friends who worked in that
building, and in the late afternoon, he'd stop by sometimes to see them
and, I would guess, to visit the men's room.

You happened to see Teddy at a party and he didn't have a drink in your
presence and that is supposed to impress us? Oh, and he nodded at you
when he walked his dogs. Wow, you almost had me switch political parties
on that one but, I came to my senses.

The twerps who are raving against Kennedy here are nothing more than the
sort of vermin you'd see crawling in the dirt if you lifted up a rotting
log. The really funny thing is that there are *no* high-quality or even
memorable U.S. senators on their side of the political fence.

Your view of the Senate is through a jaundiced eye.

H K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:29 -0400, NotNow wrote:


So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

Ted Kennedy was a veteran.

Well, sort of. Right after he was expelled from Harvard for cheating,
he enlisted for four years, then got the old man to get his hitch
shortened to two. While most Army recruits were headed to Korea and
other hot spots, Kennedy went to France. After two years service, he
was still a Private.





Kennedy spent 47 years serving his country in the U.S. Senate. You left
that Carolina PD after a few years. And your departure was "sudden."

Kennedy should have spent 39 years serving time in the Mass. State Pen.

Jordon wrote:
NotNow wrote:
JLH wrote:
Jordon wrote:
JLH wrote:
Jordon
Katie Ohara wrote:

If I am ever in MA, I will make a real attempt to spit on his grave
Spit on anyones grave in Arlington Cemetery (which is where
he's going) and I'm sure there will be plenty of people
around that will make sure that you see the error of your
ways.
Guards do not patrol the cemetery. Only the tomb of the unknown
soldier is guarded. There may be people walking around, but not to
enforce appropriate behavior.
I'm well aware of the type of people you find at Arlington
and I wasn't talking about guards. I was talking about all
the living veterans that are there visiting that would not
take too kindly to someone spitting on the grave of a fellow
veteran.

I was not in the military but I have been to Arlington. I'm
not a religious guy but it was probably the closest thing to
a "religious experience" that I've ever had, and if I saw
someone spitting on the grave of a veteran, no matter their
political affiliation, at the very least, there would be
words exchanged.

And I feel the same way. But, Arlington is seldom crowded, and there
are many times when no one is around or is watching.

If I saw someone spitting on the grave of a fellow veteran, I'd react
like you would.
Ted Kennedy? --

So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

If you're not a veteran, the only way you get into Arlington
is walking through the front gate.


http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/eligib.htm

"BAR" wrote in message
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H K wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:29 -0400, NotNow wrote:


So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

Ted Kennedy was a veteran.

Well, sort of. Right after he was expelled from Harvard for cheating, he
enlisted for four years, then got the old man to get his hitch shortened
to two. While most Army recruits were headed to Korea and other hot
spots, Kennedy went to France. After two years service, he was still a
Private.





Kennedy spent 47 years serving his country in the U.S. Senate. You left
that Carolina PD after a few years. And your departure was "sudden."

Kennedy should have spent 39 years serving time in the Mass. State Pen.


Amen to serving time. As usual, Harry attacks the messengers while ignoring
the corrupt lberaltards' misdeeds.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:41:29 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JLH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:10:32 -0700, Jordon
wrote:

JLH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:40:21 -0700, Jordon
Katie Ohara wrote:

If I am ever in MA, I will make a real attempt to spit on his grave
Spit on anyones grave in Arlington Cemetery (which is where
he's going) and I'm sure there will be plenty of people
around that will make sure that you see the error of your
ways.
Guards do not patrol the cemetery. Only the tomb of the unknown
soldier is guarded. There may be people walking around, but not to
enforce appropriate behavior.
I'm well aware of the type of people you find at Arlington
and I wasn't talking about guards. I was talking about all
the living veterans that are there visiting that would not
take too kindly to someone spitting on the grave of a fellow
veteran.

I was not in the military but I have been to Arlington. I'm
not a religious guy but it was probably the closest thing to
a "religious experience" that I've ever had, and if I saw
someone spitting on the grave of a veteran, no matter their
political affiliation, at the very least, there would be
words exchanged.

And I feel the same way. But, Arlington is seldom crowded, and there
are many times when no one is around or is watching.

If I saw someone spitting on the grave of a fellow veteran, I'd react
like you would.

Ted Kennedy?
--
John H


So if there not a veteran, it's fair game?

If it had been your daughter you'd still be singing his praises.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:07:15 -0400, BAR wrote:

H the K wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

I consider it an insult to be lumped in with a coward like Ted
Kennedy. I hope he suffered no more and no less than Miss Kopechne
and I hope his hypocrisy is judged fairly in any afterlife.

Your idea that his protracted death from cancer is comparable to a
five minute drowning is ridiculous. Look up cancer treatment side
effects, such as x-rays to the throat and never swallowing anything
solid again. Some cancer victims have had the nurses getting high on
their pain medicine while they did without.

Casady


Teddy Kennedy was an alcoholic, and it took him a long time and a good
second marriage to get that disease under control. While an active
drinker, he had a horrific automobile accident and in that an innocent
young woman died.

Teddy Kennedy should have owned up to what he had done wrong at the time
he did it. But, he was a coward and went and hid behind his family and
lawyers. Teddy should have served time in prison.

But that was only one of the albatrosses around Kennedy's neck. One of
his brothers died in World War II, and two were assassinated while in
the service of their country. There are other members of his immediate
family who suffer or suffered from various serious illnesses.

Sounds like a normal family with the exception of the assinations.
However, when you put yourself in the public eye and make as many
enemies as papa Joseph Kennedy bad things are bound to happen.

Despite all this, Teddy Kennedy was the *leading* legislator in the
United States Senate, and he was a great humanitarian, a loyal friend,
and a wonderfully decent man.

Decent? Killing MaryJo Kopechne and makeing watress sandwiches at DC
bars with Sen. Chris Dodd? Oh, and let's not forget about that incident
in southern Florida with his nephew.

He may have been trying to atone for his sins but, he was hardly decent.


I didn't know him at all, though I did get to meet him at a couple of
holiday parties in the early 2000's...where he had nothing to drink, and
we did nod at each other when he was out walking his dogs. His walks
would often take him to an office building near Union Station where I
worked as a consultant. He had many old friends who worked in that
building, and in the late afternoon, he'd stop by sometimes to see them
and, I would guess, to visit the men's room.

You happened to see Teddy at a party and he didn't have a drink in your
presence and that is supposed to impress us? Oh, and he nodded at you
when he walked his dogs. Wow, you almost had me switch political parties
on that one but, I came to my senses.

The twerps who are raving against Kennedy here are nothing more than the
sort of vermin you'd see crawling in the dirt if you lifted up a rotting
log. The really funny thing is that there are *no* high-quality or even
memorable U.S. senators on their side of the political fence.

Your view of the Senate is through a jaundiced eye.

I wonder who he was meeting in the men's room?
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson