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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:44:45 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:12:03 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: Obama's got the Reps sucking up gov cash for clunkers welfare, supporting Medicare, and calling for an increase in SS payments. Might as well turn them into appeasers of Muslim terrorism too. --Vic So staying in Afghanistan is for what purpose? Do we stay there simply so we don't 'appease' Muslims by getting out? Supposedly to put the nail in the coffin of Al Qaeda, and make sure they don't come back. Nation building started by the Bush crew, and now supported by Dem and Rep alike. They've all fallen into the "protect the women" and "one-person-one-vote" bandwagon too. Personally, I would get out and let the savages find their own path to Allah. If they give us trouble later, nuke 'em. But I'm not a Dem or Rep. --Vic Thank you for pointing out the stupidity in wasting money and lives over there. 'Supposedly'...a good choice of word. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:41:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:16:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 9:53 pm, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - this is called 'surrender' or 'appeasement'...whichever you prefer. Obama's got the Reps sucking up gov cash for clunkers welfare, supporting Medicare, and calling for an increase in SS payments. Might as well turn them into appeasers of Muslim terrorism too. --Vic Good gawd this place has gone ****ing LUNATIC. Now liberals are "appeasers of Muslim terrorism". Loogy, that was written by Vic. Maybe you should re-read it. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:49:01 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:13:54 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:57:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote: I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. --Vic Whooooosh. Sucking on the gov teat when it's offered gets the same taxpayer milk as when you demand it. And it's good to be honest about it. Of course if you want to take the side that you just did it help the economy, that works too. That's the Obama side. Your choice. --Vic Maybe I saw a lot of sarcasm that really wasn't there. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh my, hope I still get my free car and oil;) Please show me where Obama said he'd give you a free car and oil. Another right wing fallacy. Obama didn't say it.. It was a sarcastic remark based loosely on the rantings of some of the Obama supporters during the runup to the election... Geeze... Well, with some of the lies the conservatives have told lately, I just assumed that was another one that got believed. Yeah right.. only lies from the right. We are obviously out or Iraq, Gitmo is closed, we are out of Afghanistan, dems are reaching across the isle, there is no end of life panels, the check is in the mail, and I promise I will pull out... Pffffttttt... Um, Scotty, he's still on the job, and hasn't completed everything yet. Gitmo and Iraq were promised in the first hundred days... It was a campaign promise never meant to be kept... Things change. I know, I know, reverse harryanism! |
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Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:27:20 -0400, Gene wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene wrote: | |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: | |If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's |Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? | |http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th | |I think we are there because of this: | |http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm | |Ah, the Bush Rationale. | |After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable. Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left (cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how smart would that be? You don't really have a point, do you? Why are we there? What is our objective? Who got us there is unimportant now. -- John H To clean up Bush's blunder. |
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Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:21:31 -0400, NotNow wrote: Gene wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene wrote: | |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: | |If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's |Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? | |http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th | |I think we are there because of this: | |http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm | |Ah, the Bush Rationale. | |After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable. Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left (cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how smart would that be? You don't really have a point, do you? Yes, Gene, he does! Remember conservative = good, liberal = evil. That's the republican mantra!!! Loogy, that's not even cute any more. It never was cute. It does show reverse harryanism, though. Why are we in Afghanistan? If we're there simply because Bush got us there, then our reason for being there is pretty stupid. If there is another reason, what is it? -- John H Uh, no. Sometimes it takes time to clean ****. That's what Bush left us in Afghanistan. |
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On Aug 25, 4:05*pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:17:30 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 7:09*am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:05:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. Please explain why he should want to do that, given that the Taliban will come right back. So we are in Afghanistan just to keep the Taliban from coming back from Pakistan? Why? What if they just decide to stay in Pakistan? -- do you read the news? apparently not. they're not staying in pakistan the pakistanis are attacking them there we are as well i would call you as dumb as a bag of hammers, but hammers actually have a use. You really believe the Pakistanis are doing damage to the Taliban? -- how many provinces did the taliban control before the attack? how many do they control now? you're free to use as many fingers as you need to count... |
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On Aug 25, 4:50*pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:05:50 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 4:04*pm, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:42:35 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 2:33*pm, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: The Taliban never conducted state sponsored terrorism. The Taliban was used by OBL and AQ as a base of operations because Afghanistan is the anus of the Earth.- you say potatoes...i say po-tah-toes... blah blah blah You agree with me that the Taliban did not attach the USA.- who are the taliban? and, no, i don't agree. do you know what the 'USA' is? Did you not say this? "disrupting the ability of the taliban to conduct state sponsored terrorism. i realize that, to you folks in the 'neville chamberlain fan club', that's a horrible thought. but to those of us who were in NY after 9/11, it's kind of important" Did you not know of whom you spoke? You don't know who the Taliban are, yet you say the reason we're in Afghanistan is to disrupt their activities. In another breath you call folks stupid. i suggest you try following the thread instead pretending you understand it. your evaluation of your own reading skills is pathetic. You bypassed that one, didn't you? *Did you not say this? *"disrupting the ability of the taliban to conduct state sponsored *terrorism. i realize that, to you folks in the 'neville chamberlain *fan club', that's a horrible thought. but to those of us who were in *NY after 9/11, it's kind of important" *Did you not know of whom you spoke? You don't know who the Taliban *are, yet you say the reason we're in Afghanistan is to disrupt their *activities. *In another breath you call folks stupid. -- if you climb on a ladder...or better yet, climb to the top of the sear's tower, perhaps these points won't keep going over your head. |
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On Aug 25, 4:49*pm, Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:06:43 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 4:01*pm, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:18:52 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 7:08*am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:37:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03*pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... What difference does either question make? Obama has had plenty of time to pull out of Afghanistan, and Iraq for that matter. Why are we still in Afghanistan. What does Obama hope to get out of our involvement there? -- disrupting the ability of the taliban to conduct state sponsored terrorism. i realize that, to you folks in the 'neville chamberlain fan club', that's a horrible thought. but to those of us who were in NY after 9/11, it's kind of important What state sponsored terrorism did the Taliban conduct? They've not attacked us. -- ever hear of 9/11? you guys keep saying the taliban is like the girl scouts. when i point out the date of 9/11 i never hear from you again. whatsamatter? dont remember that day? The Taliban did not attack us on 9/11. yes, they did. i realize, as president of the 'neville chamberlain' society you're required to tow the party line, but i think your umbrella has some holes in it not unlike your head. A while back, the liberals were blaming Saudia Arabia and Bush for 9/11. Now you're using it as a rationale for staying in Afghanistan. Y'all need to make up your minds. -- ROFLMAO!! i guess you think bush is still president!! don't they give you an alzheimer's test in your rest home? |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... Supposedly to put the nail in the coffin of Al Qaeda, and make sure they don't come back. Nation building started by the Bush crew, and now supported by Dem and Rep alike. They've all fallen into the "protect the women" and "one-person-one-vote" bandwagon too. Personally, I would get out and let the savages find their own path to Allah. If they give us trouble later, nuke 'em. But I'm not a Dem or Rep. --Vic Ah... the humanitarian approach! LOL -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"NotNow" wrote in message ... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene wrote: | |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: | |If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's |Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? | |http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th | |I think we are there because of this: | |http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm | |Ah, the Bush Rationale. | |After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable. Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left (cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how smart would that be? You don't really have a point, do you? But he indicated to his followers that he would get out... close Gitmo, have open meetings, reach over the isle... pffffttttt.. The fact is, he said he was gonna' do it. Half of the country admitted they knew he wouldn't, the rest just missed the boat... I didn't know his time was up. The first two (he would get out [Iraq and Afghanistan] and close Gitmo) were promised in the first hundred days, the second two [have open meetings, reach over the isle] were promised during his whole administration... His time was up on the first two a few months back, the second, when he started having secret meetings and censoring information about his Czars and nominees... Fact is, it was bull****, designed to get him elected. He never meant it, just said it... Hey, could JPS be Oba.... uh, forget it... Things change when you're handed what Bush handed him. Bull****. He knew what was happening, or his advisors were incompetant. |
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"NotNow" wrote in message ... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh my, hope I still get my free car and oil;) Please show me where Obama said he'd give you a free car and oil. Another right wing fallacy. Obama didn't say it.. It was a sarcastic remark based loosely on the rantings of some of the Obama supporters during the runup to the election... Geeze... Well, with some of the lies the conservatives have told lately, I just assumed that was another one that got believed. Yeah right.. only lies from the right. We are obviously out or Iraq, Gitmo is closed, we are out of Afghanistan, dems are reaching across the isle, there is no end of life panels, the check is in the mail, and I promise I will pull out... Pffffttttt... Um, Scotty, he's still on the job, and hasn't completed everything yet. He has completed spending more money in 100 days than Bush did in 4 years. |
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On Aug 25, 4:22*pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 4:07 pm, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:30:14 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 8:11 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 7:11 am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message news:3ga695pdifipkd0su3h61vfl5gj6e909nk@4ax .com... If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo....html?_r=1&th&.... -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Perhaps it's to fix the mess that Bush neglected to fix? Right-wing nut = loves Taliban Here comes the Bush Rationale again. What 'mess' is Obama trying to fix? That's the original question? -- the mess that bush was unable to develop a strategy to build an effective security apparatus in afghanistan. And you believe that Obama is going to fix Afghanistan? Nobody has ever fixed Afghanistan.- sure they have. you're just too dumb to realize it. And you call others dumb and stupid? -- no...no. you'll suffice. i believe you exceed all others. I can't decide who is the dumbest poster he Loogy JustWait Herring Lu-ser So many choices.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - an embarrassment of riches. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 4:07 pm, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:30:14 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 8:11 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 7:11 am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo....html?_r=1&th&.... -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Perhaps it's to fix the mess that Bush neglected to fix? Right-wing nut = loves Taliban Here comes the Bush Rationale again. What 'mess' is Obama trying to fix? That's the original question? -- the mess that bush was unable to develop a strategy to build an effective security apparatus in afghanistan. And you believe that Obama is going to fix Afghanistan? Nobody has ever fixed Afghanistan.- sure they have. you're just too dumb to realize it. And you call others dumb and stupid? -- no...no. you'll suffice. i believe you exceed all others. I can't decide who is the dumbest poster he Loogy JustWait Herring Lu-ser H the K So many choices. I'll vote for the last one. |
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"Mille GT Owner" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:41:51 GMT, (Richard Casady) wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? What would it cost to buy all the opium? Have to be the bargain of the century. The dope is financing the Taliban, reason enough to **** with the trade, Casady If he stated our reason for being in Afghanistan was to stop the opium trade, at least we would have a reason. My next question would be, "Why us?" Why are we the power concerned with the opium trade? Why are we not in Columbia stopping the cocaine trade, or Mexico with the marijuana trade, or even California with the marijuana trade? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Brcause there is too much money being made in the drug war by both sides. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:32 pm, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 8:12 am, BAR wrote: this is called 'surrender' or 'appeasement'...whichever you prefer. I thought it was following through on a campaign promise. Why are we still in Iraq? Didn't Obama say he was going to get us out of Iraq too? Why are we still in Iraq?- he did not say he was going to 'get us out of iraq'. he said he was going to get us out consistent with US policy objectives. and he is. US troops are no longer involved in combat operations. What are the US policy objectives in Iraq? you seem not to know. you keep posting ridiculous assertions (e.g. 'obama said he's going to get out of afghanistan') without any reference or context. it seems you have no idea what's going on and aren't interested in finding out. your primary goal seem to be immediate surrender and appeasement of the taliban. I do not believe you have any idea why the US was in Iraq or Afghanistan or why we are still in either country. Nor do I believe that you have any idea why Obama has continued 90% of Bush's foreign policies. you take pride in your ignorance or is it just a hobby? You are too much fun to play with. I guess you could call it a sport.- chuckle watching you roll around in your ignorance is kind of like watching a 3 legged pig in a pen. the amusement value alone is worth it. When someone asks you a question you can't answer the question, why? Is it because you do not have a grasp of the subject matter or is there some other reason? |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 2:33 pm, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: The Taliban never conducted state sponsored terrorism. The Taliban was used by OBL and AQ as a base of operations because Afghanistan is the anus of the Earth.- you say potatoes...i say po-tah-toes... blah blah blah You agree with me that the Taliban did not attach the USA.- who are the taliban? and, no, i don't agree. do you know what the 'USA' is? It is not polite to answer a question with a question? |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh my, hope I still get my free car and oil;) I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. Didn't I thank everyone all ready? I figure it is my only way to get back all of that Social Security I have paid in and will never see. |
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NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene wrote: | |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: | |If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's |Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? | |http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th | |I think we are there because of this: | |http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm | |Ah, the Bush Rationale. | |After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable. Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left (cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how smart would that be? You don't really have a point, do you? But he indicated to his followers that he would get out... close Gitmo, have open meetings, reach over the isle... pffffttttt.. The fact is, he said he was gonna' do it. Half of the country admitted they knew he wouldn't, the rest just missed the boat... I didn't know his time was up. If you go by his polls he is in Carter territory. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:01:40 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh my, hope I still get my free car and oil;) Please show me where Obama said he'd give you a free car and oil. Another right wing fallacy. Obama didn't say it.. It was a sarcastic remark based loosely on the rantings of some of the Obama supporters during the runup to the election... Geeze... Well, with some of the lies the conservatives have told lately, I just assumed that was another one that got believed. Yeah right.. only lies from the right. We are obviously out or Iraq, Gitmo is closed, we are out of Afghanistan, dems are reaching across the isle, there is no end of life panels, the check is in the mail, and I promise I will pull out... Pffffttttt... Um, Scotty, he's still on the job, and hasn't completed everything yet. He has completed spending more money in 100 days than Bush did in 4 years. Brian Williams even commented on the deficit tonight. That is bad news. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Aug 25, 7:41*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: you seem not to know. you keep posting ridiculous assertions (e.g. 'obama said he's going to get out of afghanistan') without any reference or context. it seems you have no idea what's going on and aren't interested in finding out. your primary goal seem to be immediate surrender and appeasement of the taliban. I do not believe you have any idea why the US was in Iraq or Afghanistan or why we are still in either country. Nor do I believe that you have any idea why Obama has continued 90% of Bush's foreign policies. it's interesting watching the clueless sputter around like a beheaded cockroach, thinking themselves alive and conscious all the while they're ignorant and brain dead. they have their little mantra. they have their little world. and nothing can penetrate or enlighten interesting phenomenon. you take pride in your ignorance or is it just a hobby? You are too much fun to play with. I guess you could call it a sport.- chuckle watching you roll around in your ignorance is kind of like watching a 3 legged pig in a pen. the amusement value alone is worth it. When someone asks you a question you can't answer the question, why? Is it because you do not have a grasp of the subject matter or is there some other reason?- you're not asking a question. you're making a statement that you put a question mark at the end of. nothing can penetrate the dense material that you call a 'brain' and others call a lump of rotten protein that's never been used. |
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On Aug 25, 7:42*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 2:33 pm, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: The Taliban never conducted state sponsored terrorism. The Taliban was used by OBL and AQ as a base of operations because Afghanistan is the anus of the Earth.- you say potatoes...i say po-tah-toes... blah blah blah You agree with me that the Taliban did not attach the USA.- who are the taliban? and, no, i don't agree. do you know what the 'USA' is? It is not polite to answer a question with a question? it's called the 'socratic method'. i'm not sure you're teachable, but it's amusing to try... |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:13:54 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:57:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote: I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. --Vic Whooooosh. Sucking on the gov teat when it's offered gets the same taxpayer milk as when you demand it. And it's good to be honest about it. Of course if you want to take the side that you just did it help the economy, that works too. That's the Obama side. Your choice. --Vic The Lt Colonel has been sucking on that Govt teat for over 40 years. He doesn't want anyone else competing for a sip...especially those brown & black people. |
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene wrote: | |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: | |If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's |Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? | |http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th | |I think we are there because of this: | |http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm | |Ah, the Bush Rationale. | |After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable. Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left (cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how smart would that be? You don't really have a point, do you? But he indicated to his followers that he would get out... close Gitmo, have open meetings, reach over the isle... pffffttttt.. The fact is, he said he was gonna' do it. Half of the country admitted they knew he wouldn't, the rest just missed the boat... I didn't know his time was up. The first two (he would get out [Iraq and Afghanistan] and close Gitmo) were promised in the first hundred days, the second two [have open meetings, reach over the isle] were promised during his whole administration... His time was up on the first two a few months back, the second, when he started having secret meetings and censoring information about his Czars and nominees... Fact is, it was bull****, designed to get him elected. He never meant it, just said it... Hey, could JPS be Oba.... uh, forget it... Things change when you're handed what Bush handed him. So, what you are saying is Obama was completely ignorant of what was going on when he was running for POTUS? Or was he just lying? -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates. You mean, he really didn't mean it when he was running for POTUS?? Oh my, hope I still get my free car and oil;) Please show me where Obama said he'd give you a free car and oil. Another right wing fallacy. Obama didn't say it.. It was a sarcastic remark based loosely on the rantings of some of the Obama supporters during the runup to the election... Geeze... Well, with some of the lies the conservatives have told lately, I just assumed that was another one that got believed. Yeah right.. only lies from the right. We are obviously out or Iraq, Gitmo is closed, we are out of Afghanistan, dems are reaching across the isle, there is no end of life panels, the check is in the mail, and I promise I will pull out... Pffffttttt... Um, Scotty, he's still on the job, and hasn't completed everything yet. Gitmo and Iraq were promised in the first hundred days... It was a campaign promise never meant to be kept... Things change. I know, I know, reverse harryanism! This excuse of "things change" is bogus and you know it.. The middle east was no different the day after the election than is was during the campaign, same with Gitmo, Afghanistan etc... Either he was dumb as a box of rocks and talking out of his ass cause he didn't have a clue, or he was lying... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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says... Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:21:31 -0400, NotNow wrote: Gene wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:06:24 -0400, Guzzistimo penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:31:29 -0400, Gene wrote: | |On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:03:19 -0400, Guzzistimo wrote: | |If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's |Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? | |http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th | |I think we are there because of this: | |http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english...ent_339861.htm | |Ah, the Bush Rationale. | |After Inauguration Day, the Bush Rationale is no longer applicable. Bush got us in there. We're there. We could have just left (cut-and-run, some people would say) when Obama took office, but how smart would that be? You don't really have a point, do you? Yes, Gene, he does! Remember conservative = good, liberal = evil. That's the republican mantra!!! Loogy, that's not even cute any more. It never was cute. It does show reverse harryanism, though. Why are we in Afghanistan? If we're there simply because Bush got us there, then our reason for being there is pretty stupid. If there is another reason, what is it? -- John H Uh, no. Sometimes it takes time to clean ****. That's what Bush left us in Afghanistan. Again, how come Obama didn't know it was fubar in Afg..? Was he uninformed, or just lying when he said he would pull us out in the first 100 days, same question for Gitmo.. I will wait for the answer to this before I move on... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:13:54 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:57:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote: I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. --Vic Whooooosh. Sucking on the gov teat when it's offered gets the same taxpayer milk as when you demand it. And it's good to be honest about it. Of course if you want to take the side that you just did it help the economy, that works too. That's the Obama side. Your choice. --Vic The Lt Colonel has been sucking on that Govt teat for over 40 years. He doesn't want anyone else competing for a sip...especially those brown & black people. What the hell. You suck on the government teat, and you never got shot at in all your career. Dumfok! And the colonel along with a bunch of brown and black people are all retired from getting shot at, wounded, and they were the lucky ones who got to live. I have two friends. One still has a bullet in the leg from WW2. The other is about to die from cancer, and ever since the Korean war, he has had ankle problems from the shrapnel sill there. You worthless piece of Canadian government company ****head. No wonder people hate government bureaucrats. |
What the hell are we doing here...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:13:54 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:57:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote: I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. --Vic Whooooosh. Sucking on the gov teat when it's offered gets the same taxpayer milk as when you demand it. And it's good to be honest about it. Of course if you want to take the side that you just did it help the economy, that works too. That's the Obama side. Your choice. --Vic The Lt Colonel has been sucking on that Govt teat for over 40 years. He doesn't want anyone else competing for a sip...especially those brown & black people. What the hell. You suck on the government teat, and you never got shot at in all your career. Dumfok! And the colonel along with a bunch of brown and black people are all retired from getting shot at, wounded, and they were the lucky ones who got to live. I have two friends. One still has a bullet in the leg from WW2. The other is about to die from cancer, and ever since the Korean war, he has had ankle problems from the shrapnel sill there. You worthless piece of Canadian government company ****head. No wonder people hate government bureaucrats. You up late swillin' the californa wine (or is that whine) again? The illegials in the shape-up line expect you to be there sharp & early. |
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Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:44:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:12:03 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: Obama's got the Reps sucking up gov cash for clunkers welfare, supporting Medicare, and calling for an increase in SS payments. Might as well turn them into appeasers of Muslim terrorism too. --Vic So staying in Afghanistan is for what purpose? Do we stay there simply so we don't 'appease' Muslims by getting out? Supposedly to put the nail in the coffin of Al Qaeda, and make sure they don't come back. Nation building started by the Bush crew, and now supported by Dem and Rep alike. They've all fallen into the "protect the women" and "one-person-one-vote" bandwagon too. Personally, I would get out and let the savages find their own path to Allah. If they give us trouble later, nuke 'em. But I'm not a Dem or Rep. --Vic Thank you for pointing out the stupidity in wasting money and lives over there. 'Supposedly'...a good choice of word. -- John H John, can you show me where you ever stated here that when Bush was working TWO wars over there that you ever made a comment about the stupidity and waste of money and lives over there? |
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Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:41:16 -0400, NotNow wrote: Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:16:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 9:53 pm, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 24, 8:03 pm, Guzzistimo wrote: If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? hey idiot... you guys are amazing. uh...questions for you: 1. when did US troops enter afghanistan? 2. how long has obama been president take your head out of your diaper... Obama could have pulled the US troops out of Afghanistan by now. All it takes is an order to Sec Def Gates.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - this is called 'surrender' or 'appeasement'...whichever you prefer. Obama's got the Reps sucking up gov cash for clunkers welfare, supporting Medicare, and calling for an increase in SS payments. Might as well turn them into appeasers of Muslim terrorism too. --Vic Good gawd this place has gone ****ing LUNATIC. Now liberals are "appeasers of Muslim terrorism". Loogy, that was written by Vic. Maybe you should re-read it. -- John H I don't recall saying who wrote it nor suggesting who wrote it. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:13:54 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:57:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote: I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. --Vic Whooooosh. Sucking on the gov teat when it's offered gets the same taxpayer milk as when you demand it. And it's good to be honest about it. Of course if you want to take the side that you just did it help the economy, that works too. That's the Obama side. Your choice. --Vic The Lt Colonel has been sucking on that Govt teat for over 40 years. He doesn't want anyone else competing for a sip...especially those brown & black people. What the hell. You suck on the government teat, and you never got shot at in all your career. Dumfok! And the colonel along with a bunch of brown and black people are all retired from getting shot at, wounded, and they were the lucky ones who got to live. I have two friends. One still has a bullet in the leg from WW2. The other is about to die from cancer, and ever since the Korean war, he has had ankle problems from the shrapnel sill there. You worthless piece of Canadian government company ****head. No wonder people hate government bureaucrats. You up late swillin' the californa wine (or is that whine) again? The *illegials* in the shape-up line expect you to be there sharp & early. Better make that *illegals* before the Dope..er Dummy Squad get a hard-on and soil their lace panties. |
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JustWait wrote:
So, let me get this straight... Because *you* think the war was stupid and a waste of money, everyone is suppose to feel the same way? That is a socialistic way of looking at things. The few elite telling us all what we must think and the rest of us are all just re tarted??? Is that it? Not everyone...just the people with working brains think Bush's war against Iraq was stupid and a waste of money. Since you are a moron, we'll put you on the Dick Cheney side of the aisle. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 4:07 pm, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:30:14 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 8:11 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 7:11 am, Guzzistimo wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:42:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Guzzistimo" wrote in message ... If the rationale for invading Iraq was to get their oil, what's Obama's rationale for Afghanistan -- Heroin? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/wo....html?_r=1&th&.... -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Perhaps it's to fix the mess that Bush neglected to fix? Right-wing nut = loves Taliban Here comes the Bush Rationale again. What 'mess' is Obama trying to fix? That's the original question? -- the mess that bush was unable to develop a strategy to build an effective security apparatus in afghanistan. And you believe that Obama is going to fix Afghanistan? Nobody has ever fixed Afghanistan.- sure they have. you're just too dumb to realize it. And you call others dumb and stupid? -- no...no. you'll suffice. i believe you exceed all others. I can't decide who is the dumbest poster he Loogy JustWait Herring Lu-ser H the K So many choices. I'll vote for the last one. Gee, the grand pooba newsreader guru has always claimed to have me killfiled. I wonder just how he sees my posts then? |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:44:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:12:03 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: Obama's got the Reps sucking up gov cash for clunkers welfare, supporting Medicare, and calling for an increase in SS payments. Might as well turn them into appeasers of Muslim terrorism too. --Vic So staying in Afghanistan is for what purpose? Do we stay there simply so we don't 'appease' Muslims by getting out? Supposedly to put the nail in the coffin of Al Qaeda, and make sure they don't come back. Nation building started by the Bush crew, and now supported by Dem and Rep alike. They've all fallen into the "protect the women" and "one-person-one-vote" bandwagon too. Personally, I would get out and let the savages find their own path to Allah. If they give us trouble later, nuke 'em. But I'm not a Dem or Rep. --Vic Thank you for pointing out the stupidity in wasting money and lives over there. 'Supposedly'...a good choice of word. -- John H John, can you show me where you ever stated here that when Bush was working TWO wars over there that you ever made a comment about the stupidity and waste of money and lives over there? So, let me get this straight... Because *you* think the war was stupid and a waste of money, everyone is suppose to feel the same way? That is a socialistic way of looking at things. The few elite telling us all what we must think and the rest of us are all just re tarted??? Is that it? Where in hell did I say that I think everyone should think the same as me? Was that when I said (because I'm liberal) that I want to kill your elderly? If you'll re-read everything, you'll see that it was actually a quote from someone else about Obama being in Afghanistan!!! |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:45:09 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:13:54 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:57:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 08:19:32 -0400, BAR wrote: I practically got a free car yesterday. I now have a brand new Nissan Versa and the $4,500 you all kicked in paid for nearly half of the vehicle. I stroked a check for the rest. Just doing my part to help the economy according to Congress and Obama's rules. Congratulations! Good to see you admit gov welfare is ok when it goes in your pocket. Honesty is a virtue. --Vic Whooooosh. Sucking on the gov teat when it's offered gets the same taxpayer milk as when you demand it. And it's good to be honest about it. Of course if you want to take the side that you just did it help the economy, that works too. That's the Obama side. Your choice. --Vic The Lt Colonel has been sucking on that Govt teat for over 40 years. He doesn't want anyone else competing for a sip...especially those brown & black people. What the hell. You suck on the government teat, and you never got shot at in all your career. Dumfok! And the colonel along with a bunch of brown and black people are all retired from getting shot at, wounded, and they were the lucky ones who got to live. I have two friends. One still has a bullet in the leg from WW2. The other is about to die from cancer, and ever since the Korean war, he has had ankle problems from the shrapnel sill there. You worthless piece of Canadian government company ****head. No wonder people hate government bureaucrats. Luckily, my wound wasn't as bad. My best to your friends. Donnie takes his cue from Harry. Both are about as low as one can go. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:09:12 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Mille GT Owner wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:44:45 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:12:03 -0400, Mille GT Owner wrote: Obama's got the Reps sucking up gov cash for clunkers welfare, supporting Medicare, and calling for an increase in SS payments. Might as well turn them into appeasers of Muslim terrorism too. --Vic So staying in Afghanistan is for what purpose? Do we stay there simply so we don't 'appease' Muslims by getting out? Supposedly to put the nail in the coffin of Al Qaeda, and make sure they don't come back. Nation building started by the Bush crew, and now supported by Dem and Rep alike. They've all fallen into the "protect the women" and "one-person-one-vote" bandwagon too. Personally, I would get out and let the savages find their own path to Allah. If they give us trouble later, nuke 'em. But I'm not a Dem or Rep. --Vic Thank you for pointing out the stupidity in wasting money and lives over there. 'Supposedly'...a good choice of word. -- John H John, can you show me where you ever stated here that when Bush was working TWO wars over there that you ever made a comment about the stupidity and waste of money and lives over there? Why? Whether I could do so or not has no bearing on why we're in Afghanistan. Just admit you can think of no good reason and be done with it. Maybe your boy can get the troops home by Christmas, as there's no reason for keeping them there. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Aug 26, 11:51*am, U-joint Buster wrote:
Why? Whether I could do so or not has no bearing on why we're in Afghanistan. Just admit you can think of no good reason and be done with it. Maybe your boy can get the troops home by Christmas, as there's no reason for keeping them there. -- John H other than, of course, they murdered 3000 americans. the neville chamberlain fan club must be having its annual appeasement meeting. the group seems very active.... |
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