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Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. |
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jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. "Arizona on $5 Worth of Ammo a Day" Priceless. My assumption is that anyone crazy enough to show up at a Presidential event openly carrying firearms (and not part of secret service, law enforcement, et cetera) is crazy enough to open fire with that firearm without much provocation. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. Does that lunacy extend to the black man seen carrying an AR-15, and a holstered handgun? The one a ditsy MSNBC reporter said was white? |
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jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. The black guy with the assault weapon was there to whip up the ni&&er haters. It was a staged protest, based upon bad thinking. It won't lead anywhere good if they keep it up, and keep it up they will. |
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Lu Powell wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. Does that lunacy extend to the black man seen carrying an AR-15, and a holstered handgun? The one a ditsy MSNBC reporter said was white? Go visit Herring so you two can swap your racism along with your spit. |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. The black guy with the assault weapon was there to whip up the ni&&er haters. It was a staged protest, based upon bad thinking. It won't lead anywhere good if they keep it up, and keep it up they will. My point was that some ditsy reporter denounced white men, when in fact the video footage of the assault carrying person was a black man. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI -- "Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others." - Ayn Rand |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:28:27 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. Does that lunacy extend to the black man seen carrying an AR-15, and a holstered handgun? The one a ditsy MSNBC reporter said was white? There were two AR15s in attendance that day. One of them by a white man shouting slurs against the president. You're among the mass of under informed, not surprisingly. |
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jps wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:28:27 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. Does that lunacy extend to the black man seen carrying an AR-15, and a holstered handgun? The one a ditsy MSNBC reporter said was white? There were two AR15s in attendance that day. One of them by a white man shouting slurs against the president. You're among the mass of under informed, not surprisingly. It's worse than that...Lu-ser is an ex-cop. Think about that. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:28:27 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. Does that lunacy extend to the black man seen carrying an AR-15, and a holstered handgun? The one a ditsy MSNBC reporter said was white? There were two AR15s in attendance that day. One of them by a white man shouting slurs against the president. You're among the mass of under informed, not surprisingly. ....and you are kill filed, along with your bung hole buddy Harry. |
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On Aug 21, 3:13*pm, jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. |
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Tim wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. |
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On Aug 21, 7:46*pm, H the K wrote:
Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: *Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. HK, your presence will not be missed. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 21, 7:46 pm, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. HK, your presence will not be missed. The feeling is mutual. What's this to you? You're a Florida cracker. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:28:27 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. Does that lunacy extend to the black man seen carrying an AR-15, and a holstered handgun? The one a ditsy MSNBC reporter said was white? There were two AR15s in attendance that day. One of them by a white man shouting slurs against the president. You're among the mass of under informed, not surprisingly. and the photo is of a black man. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Aug 21, 7:46 pm, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. HK, your presence will not be missed. -=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=- LOL! You took the words out of my mouth. The "street cred" for those states just went up a hundredfold once harry announced he will not be visiting. I hear a HUGE sigh of relief from the east. g --Mike |
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"H the K" wrote in message ... jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. "Arizona on $5 Worth of Ammo a Day" Priceless. My assumption is that anyone crazy enough to show up at a Presidential event openly carrying firearms (and not part of secret service, law enforcement, et cetera) is crazy enough to open fire with that firearm without much provocation. Ahhh harry... Unlike you, folks that legally own weapons of any sort *can* be responsible, and show restraint. Quit projecting... we're sick of seeing you "expose" yourself. --Mike |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K
wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting geology, and that is it. Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting geology, and that is it. Casady I've been to Louisiana at least a dozen times in the past 15-20 years, and only a fifth have been in connection with New Orleans as a "tourist" destination. I like Louisiana. I have a poet friend who teaches English at LSU. I first went to Arizona on spring break with a couple of guys who lived in the Yuma area, and I thought the geography, fauna, and flora really interesting. I feel no need to visit Utah. |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting geology, and that is it. Casady I can see you've never been to Utah. And if you have, and that's all you got out of the trip, I pity you. As for Louisiana, there's lots to see and do. I have lived in both states, so I am not speaking through my hat. Steve |
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SteveB wrote:
"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting geology, and that is it. Casady I can see you've never been to Utah. And if you have, and that's all you got out of the trip, I pity you. As for Louisiana, there's lots to see and do. I have lived in both states, so I am not speaking through my hat. Steve What's even more amazing is that fat ass Harry doesn't understand, nor have knowledge of those states he mentioned's tremendous beauty and natural resources. He's a bigot. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Richard Casady wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting geology, and that is it. Casady I've been to Louisiana at least a dozen times in the past 15-20 years, and only a fifth have been in connection with New Orleans as a "tourist" destination. I like Louisiana. I have a poet friend who teaches English at LSU. I first went to Arizona on spring break with a couple of guys who lived in the Yuma area, and I thought the geography, fauna, and flora really interesting. I feel no need to visit Utah. On the way to Illinois from AZ, once, I went up through the Monument Valley and on into Utah along the Colorado River and on up through Colorado. We were so impressed with the "geography" in Utah that we changed our trip plans to go back through that way on our return from Illinois. That is the prettiest country I've ever seen, and I'm comparing to the Grand Canyon, even. Tom G. |
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Tom G wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Richard Casady wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting geology, and that is it. Casady I've been to Louisiana at least a dozen times in the past 15-20 years, and only a fifth have been in connection with New Orleans as a "tourist" destination. I like Louisiana. I have a poet friend who teaches English at LSU. I first went to Arizona on spring break with a couple of guys who lived in the Yuma area, and I thought the geography, fauna, and flora really interesting. I feel no need to visit Utah. On the way to Illinois from AZ, once, I went up through the Monument Valley and on into Utah along the Colorado River and on up through Colorado. We were so impressed with the "geography" in Utah that we changed our trip plans to go back through that way on our return from Illinois. That is the prettiest country I've ever seen, and I'm comparing to the Grand Canyon, even. Tom G. I'm sure Utah has many beautiful vistas. I feel no need to spend money in a state run as a theocracy. |
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On Aug 22, 10:39*am, NotNow wrote:
SteveB wrote: "Richard Casady" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:25 -0400, H the K wrote: Tim wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13 pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Well, Arizona isn't yet on my list of States I'll Never Visit. Still the same three: *Texas, Mississippi, and Alabama. The only tourist attraction in Louisiana is the French Quarter, if you want to call a bunch of bars an attraction. Utah has some interesting geology, and that is it. Casady I can see you've never been to Utah. *And if you have, and that's all you got out of the trip, I pity you. *As for Louisiana, there's lots to see and do. *I have lived in both states, so I am not speaking through my hat.. Steve What's even more amazing is that fat ass Harry doesn't understand, nor have knowledge of those states he mentioned's tremendous beauty and natural resources. He's a bigot. I've been though utah, but it was a long time ago and I thought it was a beautiful state, myself. |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:13:52 -0700, jps wrote:
Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. The pioneering author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was "shocked beyond measure" by reports that a dozen protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday. Frommer says he won't travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest. On his blog (www.frommers.com/blog), Frommer wrote: "For myself, without yet suggesting that others follow me in an open boycott, I will not personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons onto the sidewalks and as a means of political protest. I not only believe such practices are a threat to the future of our democracy, but I am firmly convinced that they would also endanger my own personal safety there. And therefore I will cancel any plans to vacation or otherwise visit in Arizona until I learn more. And I will begin thinking about whether tourists should safeguard themselves by avoiding stays in Arizona." Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer on Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety. Good news. Maybe it'll be less crowded when we go to Flagstaff next year to see all the sights. -- John H "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:37:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Aug 21, 3:13*pm, jps wrote: Nice to see somebody reacting to this lunacy in Arizona... Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won't be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state's laws allow people he described as "thugs" and "extremists" to openly carry firearms. That's ok, My brother and his family went on vacation and visited the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Black Hills, Rushmore and the like. They had a really enjoyable time and didn't feel threatened by anyone. Tim, did they camp out there, or were they motelling it? -- John H "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government." Thomas Jefferson |
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