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On Aug 20, 11:03*am, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 20, 7:19 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 19, 9:22 pm, wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns legally 33 dead people as a result. thanks to the NRA The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but they never told anyone so his background check came back clean. ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy. uh huh. It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who says that should remain private.- and it's the NRA that opposes any restrictions on guns at all. it opposed instant checks. it opposed taking guns away from crazy people, wife abusers, etc. in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd amendment and ban guns completely. If that is your desire I suggest you get started on the process to amend the Constitution.- if only i had the time. i work for a living. reply: *Wow, that's a plausible excuse. *So, what it amounts to is that you really do not believe in what you belive in enough to work to make it happen. *Do I have it right? uh no. i work for a living. unlike you rich folkkks SOMEONE has to work to support you. |
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On Aug 20, 11:02*am, "SteveB" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... .. If that is your desire I suggest you get started on the process to amend the Constitution. As he is entitled to do, but is too stupid to understand or learn. *(He slept through the classes the first time ..... civics, government, etc.) i guess stevie's too dumb to understand that one can repeal an amendment. it's been done. he's just kinda stupid and doesnt know US history... IOW he's a typical NRA member |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:52:57 -0600, "SteveB" wrote: Scopes and lasers are for people who can't shoot. Scopes are quite useful to those of advancing years whose eyes are not what they once were. They extend the period just after sunset when the deer, for example, show themselves, as they can be used in dimmer light than iron sights. The iron sights have advantages: lighter and more compact, more rugged [usually], cheaper. Casady I agree. But in the context of the conversation, the poster was not even using the proper terminology for iron sights, showing a lack of knowledge. There are a lot of people who own guns who really don't understand them, or are able to use them with much proficiency. They always want bigger magazines and larger caliber, plus anything other gimmick that will compensate for lack of skill and experience. Steve If you are referring to me...why would I call sights that are NOT iron sights iron sights? The stock sights on my rifle are fiber optic, front and rear. I understand the etymology of the phrase, iron sights, but in some instances it is outmoded, even if what has superseded it sort of resembles "iron sights." Now, my Sig pistol, it has "iron sights." |
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"NotNow" wrote in message ... D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... jps wrote: Couldn't agree with this writer more... At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey’s home state, writer Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans coming to public meeting with deadly force in-tow. “It is attempted intimidation,” he wrote. “It is an acknowledgment that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry the day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can purchase at a local gunshop.” Bookman continues: “It also reflects a growing mindset among some that the government just isn’t listening and thus must be made to listen, one way or the other. There’s a fundamental childishness to that attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person in question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is wrong. So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of a gun.” Sooner rather than later, one of the gun-toting right-wing nincompoops is going to open fire or "have an accident" or get into a brawl with law enforcement. When these armed idiots show up at public meetings at which the president is going to appear, it increases the workload of the secret service and local police forces. Some kind of federal law restricting weapons within a couple thousand feet of anywhere the President of member of congress may be is in order This is something you couldn't trust the individual states to pass/enforce. I've been practicing so I can handle the impending invasion of the Loogy/JustHate Zombies... http://tinyurl.com/ma5znl First five shot group at 100 yards from the new ZombieKiller Rifle. I was plopped on a ground cloth and using the rifle's built-in sights. Took a couple of shots first to sight in for elevation...there wasn't any wind. Tomorrow I'm going to try some shots with the new scope I just attached. Once I get used to it, I should be able to put five between the eyes of your typical zombie at 100 yards. I have an old semi-auto 22 cal rifle with a 6x scope that I haven't fired in 25 years or so. I should get it out and do some practice myself.... just in case those 'zombies' make it across the border. ;-) Whatever you do - don't clean the barrel! The first shot will do that for you. What an idiot! He thinks zombies are real. I deal with you, the freak and a motley assortment of your fellow irregulars everyday. Why wouldn't I believe in 'merican zombies? |
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Don White wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... jps wrote: Couldn't agree with this writer more... At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey’s home state, writer Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans coming to public meeting with deadly force in-tow. “It is attempted intimidation,” he wrote. “It is an acknowledgment that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry the day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can purchase at a local gunshop.” Bookman continues: “It also reflects a growing mindset among some that the government just isn’t listening and thus must be made to listen, one way or the other. There’s a fundamental childishness to that attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person in question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is wrong. So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of a gun.” Sooner rather than later, one of the gun-toting right-wing nincompoops is going to open fire or "have an accident" or get into a brawl with law enforcement. When these armed idiots show up at public meetings at which the president is going to appear, it increases the workload of the secret service and local police forces. Some kind of federal law restricting weapons within a couple thousand feet of anywhere the President of member of congress may be is in order This is something you couldn't trust the individual states to pass/enforce. I've been practicing so I can handle the impending invasion of the Loogy/JustHate Zombies... http://tinyurl.com/ma5znl First five shot group at 100 yards from the new ZombieKiller Rifle. I was plopped on a ground cloth and using the rifle's built-in sights. Took a couple of shots first to sight in for elevation...there wasn't any wind. Tomorrow I'm going to try some shots with the new scope I just attached. Once I get used to it, I should be able to put five between the eyes of your typical zombie at 100 yards. I have an old semi-auto 22 cal rifle with a 6x scope that I haven't fired in 25 years or so. I should get it out and do some practice myself.... just in case those 'zombies' make it across the border. ;-) Whatever you do - don't clean the barrel! The first shot will do that for you. What an idiot! He thinks zombies are real. I deal with you, the freak and a motley assortment of your fellow irregulars everyday. Why wouldn't I believe in 'merican zombies? They *are* American zombies. That's why I got a zombie rifle...for self-protection. Putting a bullet between the eyes of an attacking zombie at 100 yards...it's the only way. |
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Don White wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... jps wrote: Couldn't agree with this writer more... At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey’s home state, writer Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans coming to public meeting with deadly force in-tow. “It is attempted intimidation,” he wrote. “It is an acknowledgment that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry the day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can purchase at a local gunshop.” Bookman continues: “It also reflects a growing mindset among some that the government just isn’t listening and thus must be made to listen, one way or the other. There’s a fundamental childishness to that attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person in question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is wrong. So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of a gun.” Sooner rather than later, one of the gun-toting right-wing nincompoops is going to open fire or "have an accident" or get into a brawl with law enforcement. When these armed idiots show up at public meetings at which the president is going to appear, it increases the workload of the secret service and local police forces. Some kind of federal law restricting weapons within a couple thousand feet of anywhere the President of member of congress may be is in order This is something you couldn't trust the individual states to pass/enforce. I've been practicing so I can handle the impending invasion of the Loogy/JustHate Zombies... http://tinyurl.com/ma5znl First five shot group at 100 yards from the new ZombieKiller Rifle. I was plopped on a ground cloth and using the rifle's built-in sights. Took a couple of shots first to sight in for elevation...there wasn't any wind. Tomorrow I'm going to try some shots with the new scope I just attached. Once I get used to it, I should be able to put five between the eyes of your typical zombie at 100 yards. I have an old semi-auto 22 cal rifle with a 6x scope that I haven't fired in 25 years or so. I should get it out and do some practice myself.... just in case those 'zombies' make it across the border. ;-) Whatever you do - don't clean the barrel! The first shot will do that for you. What an idiot! He thinks zombies are real. I deal with you, the freak and a motley assortment of your fellow irregulars everyday. Why wouldn't I believe in 'merican zombies? The zombies in N O ignored the warnings for Katrina. Bill will be knocking on your door Sunday. Will we be calling you a zombie on Monday morning? |
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"wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, but they manage to hide it. You do not. Your constant references to homosexual practices and the violent nature you exhibit are becoming boring. Steve |
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"wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, but they manage to hide it. You do not. Your constant references to homosexual practices and the violent nature you exhibit are becoming boring. Steve Wow...someone who lives in Mormonville whining about what he perceives to be be perversions on the part of others. Classic. |
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On Aug 20, 12:04*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. when you have something of substance to say, let me know and where did you get the idea that only gays suck dick? *Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? *I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. *But just come out and say it. *Most gays are just angry people, ah. so not only are you a sock puppet for the rich but you're homophobic as well yeah, it figures. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 12:04 pm, "SteveB" wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. when you have something of substance to say, let me know and where did you get the idea that only gays suck dick? Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, ah. so not only are you a sock puppet for the rich but you're homophobic as well yeah, it figures. I think he's one of those wilder than christian guys who believes jesus interacted with native americans. |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 20, 12:04 pm, "SteveB" wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. when you have something of substance to say, let me know and where did you get the idea that only gays suck dick? Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, ah. so not only are you a sock puppet for the rich but you're homophobic as well yeah, it figures. reply: Well, welcome to the group, Mary. |
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On Aug 20, 12:08*pm, H the K wrote:
SteveB wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. *Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? *I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. *But just come out and say it. *Most gays are just angry people, but they manage to hide it. *You do not. *Your constant references to homosexual practices and the violent nature you exhibit are becoming boring. Steve Wow...someone who lives in Mormonville whining about what he perceives to be be perversions on the part of others. Classic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - he's a moron? that explains ALOT.... |
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On Aug 20, 12:31*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:08:07 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: read the legislation. it was written by phil gramm, a texas republican, and his wife, a sr. VP at enron. and we know how the GOP loved enron. another chance to fleece the middle class. Look at the votes on Gramm-Leach-Bliley. 155 house democrats and 38 democratic senators voted for it Bill Clinton signed it into law yep because they got stampeded...just like you have...by the myth of the 'free market'. even after the biggest collapse in US history you still thump your chest and tell us how the markets need to be deregulated. Bill Clinton was in front of that stampede. Did you watch the signing? He was telling us this was the best thing since sliced bread. of course he did. many of us bought the free market kool aid and politicians ignored it at their peril. just look at how true believers like yourself continue to hang onto this little security blanket of the 'rich will protect us'. In fact it was the democrats who killed H.R.4161 in 2005 that would have regulated Fannie/Freddie and would have tempered this housing crisis. That was Dodd and Frank. the GOP controlled congress in 2005. it was not until 2006 that the democrats were a majority. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 12:08 pm, H the K wrote: SteveB wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, but they manage to hide it. You do not. Your constant references to homosexual practices and the violent nature you exhibit are becoming boring. Steve Wow...someone who lives in Mormonville whining about what he perceives to be be perversions on the part of others. Classic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - he's a moron? that explains ALOT.... Boy is Harry's brain screwed up or WHAT? Note that he's so screwed up that he thinks that because someone lives in a certain geographical area that they think and act and have the same values as every single person who lives in that geographical area. That would mean that because Harry lives in a state that is the headquarters for the KKK, that he thinks just exactly like them.... |
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On Aug 20, 12:41*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:13:04 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd amendment and ban guns completely At least you are being honest now. How do you think that would work out? Is the government going buy them all or are you repealing the 5th amendment too. you use the daniel patrick moynahan method. guns would be illegal. you shut down gunsmiths, make the sale of ammo illegal, etc. over time guns, being a mechanical object, would start to disappear as parts became unavailable, no now guns entered the system, etc. you destroy the gun culture along with the guns. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 12:08 pm, H the K wrote: SteveB wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, but they manage to hide it. You do not. Your constant references to homosexual practices and the violent nature you exhibit are becoming boring. Steve Wow...someone who lives in Mormonville whining about what he perceives to be be perversions on the part of others. Classic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - he's a moron? that explains ALOT.... Well, I don't know what his religious preference is, nor do I care. He does live in mormonville, though. |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 20, 12:08 pm, H the K wrote: SteveB wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, but they manage to hide it. You do not. Your constant references to homosexual practices and the violent nature you exhibit are becoming boring. Steve Wow...someone who lives in Mormonville whining about what he perceives to be be perversions on the part of others. Classic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - he's a moron? that explains ALOT.... reply: you have now become insufferably boring. buybye. You be careful out there at those Interstate rest stops. And do try to get more than ten bucks a throw. I know you've been trying to substitute quantity for price, but if you just charge more, you'll have to do it less. Sheesh, that was covered in high school, just like civics and government. Too bad you were unconscious during the classes. Steve |
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On Aug 20, 12:47*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 20, 12:04 pm, "SteveB" wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. when you have something of substance to say, let me know and where did you get the idea that only gays suck dick? Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, ah. so not only are you a sock puppet for the rich but you're homophobic as well yeah, it figures. reply: *Well, welcome to the group, Mary. running the gamut...homophobic, misogynist... IOW typical right winger... |
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"J i m." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... jps wrote: Couldn't agree with this writer more... At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey’s home state, writer Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans coming to public meeting with deadly force in-tow. “It is attempted intimidation,” he wrote. “It is an acknowledgment that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry the day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can purchase at a local gunshop.” Bookman continues: “It also reflects a growing mindset among some that the government just isn’t listening and thus must be made to listen, one way or the other. There’s a fundamental childishness to that attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person in question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is wrong. So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of a gun.” Sooner rather than later, one of the gun-toting right-wing nincompoops is going to open fire or "have an accident" or get into a brawl with law enforcement. When these armed idiots show up at public meetings at which the president is going to appear, it increases the workload of the secret service and local police forces. Some kind of federal law restricting weapons within a couple thousand feet of anywhere the President of member of congress may be is in order This is something you couldn't trust the individual states to pass/enforce. I've been practicing so I can handle the impending invasion of the Loogy/JustHate Zombies... http://tinyurl.com/ma5znl First five shot group at 100 yards from the new ZombieKiller Rifle. I was plopped on a ground cloth and using the rifle's built-in sights. Took a couple of shots first to sight in for elevation...there wasn't any wind. Tomorrow I'm going to try some shots with the new scope I just attached. Once I get used to it, I should be able to put five between the eyes of your typical zombie at 100 yards. I have an old semi-auto 22 cal rifle with a 6x scope that I haven't fired in 25 years or so. I should get it out and do some practice myself.... just in case those 'zombies' make it across the border. ;-) Whatever you do - don't clean the barrel! The first shot will do that for you. What an idiot! He thinks zombies are real. I deal with you, the freak and a motley assortment of your fellow irregulars everyday. Why wouldn't I believe in 'merican zombies? The zombies in N O ignored the warnings for Katrina. Bill will be knocking on your door Sunday. Will we be calling you a zombie on Monday morning? You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. |
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Don White wrote:
"J i m." wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... jps wrote: Couldn't agree with this writer more... At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey’s home state, writer Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans coming to public meeting with deadly force in-tow. “It is attempted intimidation,” he wrote. “It is an acknowledgment that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry the day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can purchase at a local gunshop.” Bookman continues: “It also reflects a growing mindset among some that the government just isn’t listening and thus must be made to listen, one way or the other. There’s a fundamental childishness to that attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person in question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is wrong. So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of a gun.” Sooner rather than later, one of the gun-toting right-wing nincompoops is going to open fire or "have an accident" or get into a brawl with law enforcement. When these armed idiots show up at public meetings at which the president is going to appear, it increases the workload of the secret service and local police forces. Some kind of federal law restricting weapons within a couple thousand feet of anywhere the President of member of congress may be is in order This is something you couldn't trust the individual states to pass/enforce. I've been practicing so I can handle the impending invasion of the Loogy/JustHate Zombies... http://tinyurl.com/ma5znl First five shot group at 100 yards from the new ZombieKiller Rifle. I was plopped on a ground cloth and using the rifle's built-in sights. Took a couple of shots first to sight in for elevation...there wasn't any wind. Tomorrow I'm going to try some shots with the new scope I just attached. Once I get used to it, I should be able to put five between the eyes of your typical zombie at 100 yards. I have an old semi-auto 22 cal rifle with a 6x scope that I haven't fired in 25 years or so. I should get it out and do some practice myself.... just in case those 'zombies' make it across the border. ;-) Whatever you do - don't clean the barrel! The first shot will do that for you. What an idiot! He thinks zombies are real. I deal with you, the freak and a motley assortment of your fellow irregulars everyday. Why wouldn't I believe in 'merican zombies? The zombies in N O ignored the warnings for Katrina. Bill will be knocking on your door Sunday. Will we be calling you a zombie on Monday morning? You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. Nothing could be further from the truth. Unlike your BFF Harry, I do not wish harm to people. Hope your ready. It could be a doozie. |
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On Aug 20, 2:23*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 12:31*pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:08:07 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: read the legislation. it was written by phil gramm, a texas republican, and his wife, a sr. VP at enron. and we know how the GOP loved enron. another chance to fleece the middle class. Look at the votes on Gramm-Leach-Bliley. 155 house democrats and 38 democratic senators voted for it Bill Clinton signed it into law yep because they got stampeded...just like you have...by the myth of the 'free market'. even after the biggest collapse in US history you still thump your chest and tell us how the markets need to be deregulated. Bill Clinton was in front of that stampede. Did you watch the signing? He was telling us this was the best thing since sliced bread. of course he did. many of us bought the free market kool aid and politicians ignored it at their peril. just look at how true believers like yourself continue to hang onto this little security blanket of the 'rich will protect us'. I never said that I am saying you can't trust the democrats to save you either. In fact it was the democrats who killed H.R.4161 in 2005 that would have regulated Fannie/Freddie and would have tempered this housing crisis. That was Dodd and Frank. the GOP controlled congress in 2005. it was not until 2006 that the democrats were a majority The GOP did not have a filibuster proof senate.- which, of course, is irrelevant to your point. the fact is the GOP deregulated markets allowing CDO's to balloon to sixty two trillion dollars. anyone older than 5 years old would have known that was unsustainable. but the free market fundamentalists in the GOP steam rollered the political machinery to make regulation impossible. |
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On Aug 20, 1:37*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 20, 12:08 pm, H the K wrote: SteveB wrote: "wf3h" wrote and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be raped by the rich ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the rich think that the middle class should All your posts are filled with homosexual references. Have you tried to get any help for this obsession, or do you just cruise Interstates for entertainment and writing materials? I mean, if you're gay, that's okay by me. But just come out and say it. Most gays are just angry people, but they manage to hide it. You do not. Your constant references to homosexual practices and the violent nature you exhibit are becoming boring. Steve Wow...someone who lives in Mormonville whining about what he perceives to be be perversions on the part of others. Classic.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - he's a moron? that explains ALOT.... reply: you have now become insufferably boring. *buybye. says the homophobe |
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On Aug 20, 2:26*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 12:41*pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:13:04 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd amendment and ban guns completely At least you are being honest now. How do you think that would work out? Is the government going buy them all or are you repealing the 5th amendment too. you use the daniel patrick moynahan *method. guns would be illegal. you shut down gunsmiths, make the sale of ammo illegal, etc. over time guns, being a mechanical object, would start to disappear as parts became unavailable, no now guns entered the system, etc. you destroy the gun culture along with the guns. You would just drive the ammo market underground. That has been so successful in the drug war hasn't it? when people inject ammo into their veins you be sure and let me know. when ammo becomes a psychoactive chemical, drop me a note. In real life the people who use the most ammo are not the ones who cause the problem.- risk/benefit calculation. value of guns: zero cost to society of their use: billions. they should be banned. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0300, "Don White" wrote: You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. How high are you ASL. That makes the biggest difference in these things. You can survive the wind but the water will get you. My house is about 160 feet above sea level. The hugh mature trees in the backyard scare me. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:41:56 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 2:26 pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 12:41 pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:13:04 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd amendment and ban guns completely At least you are being honest now. How do you think that would work out? Is the government going buy them all or are you repealing the 5th amendment too. you use the daniel patrick moynahan method. guns would be illegal. you shut down gunsmiths, make the sale of ammo illegal, etc. over time guns, being a mechanical object, would start to disappear as parts became unavailable, no now guns entered the system, etc. you destroy the gun culture along with the guns. You would just drive the ammo market underground. That has been so successful in the drug war hasn't it? when people inject ammo into their veins you be sure and let me know. when ammo becomes a psychoactive chemical, drop me a note. People don't inject marijuana into their veins but a lot of people die because it is illegal. You only have to look at "prohibition" to see the problem with banning anything. In real life the people who use the most ammo are not the ones who cause the problem.- risk/benefit calculation. value of guns: zero cost to society of their use: billions. I could say the same thing about golf, recreational boats or motorcycles, what's your point? they should be banned. Again, name me one thing that became unavailable because it was banned? Just one. All "banning" does is create a criminal enterprise to provide something. You're wrestling with a pig here. |
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:48:04 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:41:56 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 2:26 pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:28:56 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 12:41 pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:13:04 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd amendment and ban guns completely At least you are being honest now. How do you think that would work out? Is the government going buy them all or are you repealing the 5th amendment too. you use the daniel patrick moynahan method. guns would be illegal. you shut down gunsmiths, make the sale of ammo illegal, etc. over time guns, being a mechanical object, would start to disappear as parts became unavailable, no now guns entered the system, etc. you destroy the gun culture along with the guns. You would just drive the ammo market underground. That has been so successful in the drug war hasn't it? when people inject ammo into their veins you be sure and let me know. when ammo becomes a psychoactive chemical, drop me a note. People don't inject marijuana into their veins but a lot of people die because it is illegal. You only have to look at "prohibition" to see the problem with banning anything. In real life the people who use the most ammo are not the ones who cause the problem.- risk/benefit calculation. value of guns: zero cost to society of their use: billions. I could say the same thing about golf, recreational boats or motorcycles, what's your point? they should be banned. Again, name me one thing that became unavailable because it was banned? Just one. All "banning" does is create a criminal enterprise to provide something. You're wrestling with a pig here. Better than wrestling with you, a stump. You don't even qualify as a dining room table. |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:39:48 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 2:23 pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 12:31 pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 03:08:07 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: read the legislation. it was written by phil gramm, a texas republican, and his wife, a sr. VP at enron. and we know how the GOP loved enron. another chance to fleece the middle class. Look at the votes on Gramm-Leach-Bliley. 155 house democrats and 38 democratic senators voted for it Bill Clinton signed it into law yep because they got stampeded...just like you have...by the myth of the 'free market'. even after the biggest collapse in US history you still thump your chest and tell us how the markets need to be deregulated. Bill Clinton was in front of that stampede. Did you watch the signing? He was telling us this was the best thing since sliced bread. of course he did. many of us bought the free market kool aid and politicians ignored it at their peril. just look at how true believers like yourself continue to hang onto this little security blanket of the 'rich will protect us'. I never said that I am saying you can't trust the democrats to save you either. In fact it was the democrats who killed H.R.4161 in 2005 that would have regulated Fannie/Freddie and would have tempered this housing crisis. That was Dodd and Frank. the GOP controlled congress in 2005. it was not until 2006 that the democrats were a majority The GOP did not have a filibuster proof senate.- which, of course, is irrelevant to your point. the fact is the GOP deregulated markets allowing CDO's to balloon to sixty two trillion dollars. anyone older than 5 years old would have known that was unsustainable. but the free market fundamentalists in the GOP steam rollered the political machinery to make regulation impossible. You continue to ignore the fact that Clinton did that, in the same way Bush did all the things we say he did. It happened on his watch and he could have vetoed the bill. He did exactly the opposite and championed it while it was flowing through congress with significant democratic support. I agree they all drank the Kool aid but "all" is the operative word. To call this a GOP problem is not intellectually honest. Bear in mind this was the same time that we were applauding Enron, Worldcom, Adelphia and a host of other frauds as being "prosperity". Greenspan was really the only one who was warning us that this might just be an illusion but even he was half hearted about it. It is very similar to the way we were relishing the housing market in 2006. I have to say, I knew enough to dump my home builder stocks the day I heard Centex had stopped building "inventory" houses. The signs were there. You just had to look. And it was Rubin's, Clintons Sec of Treasury who pushed Glass-Steagall dumping. Before he went to CitiBank and made it Citigroup. A pox on both parties. |
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On Aug 20, 4:33*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:39:48 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: which, of course, is irrelevant to your point. the fact is the GOP deregulated markets allowing CDO's to balloon to sixty two trillion dollars. anyone older than 5 years old would have known that was unsustainable. but the free market fundamentalists in the GOP steam rollered the political machinery to make regulation impossible. You continue to ignore the fact that Clinton did that, in the same way Bush did all the things we say he did. IOW you're agreeing with my point: the free market has failed. we gave the rich EVERYTHING they asked for and what it resulted in was a wholesale plunder of the middle class thanks. i already knew that. It happened on his watch and he could have vetoed the bill. He did exactly the opposite and championed it while it was flowing through congress with significant democratic support. hey genius...guess who controlled congress when he signed the bill the G....O.....P I agree they all drank the Kool aid but "all" is the operative word. To call this a GOP problem is not intellectually honest. what's intellectually honest is to admit the free market has failed. regulated, controlled markets, not free market capitalism, are the way to ensure that this mess doesn't happen again. that includes state sponsored health insurance |
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On Aug 20, 4:39*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:41:56 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: when people inject ammo into their veins you be sure and let me know. when ammo becomes a psychoactive chemical, drop me a note. People don't inject marijuana into their veins but a lot of people die because it is illegal. so is murder. you wanna legalize that too? You only have to look at "prohibition" to see the problem with banning anything. you're right. let's let all the rapists and murderers free in your neighborhood In real life the people who use the most ammo are not the ones who cause the problem.- risk/benefit calculation. value of guns: zero cost to society of their use: billions. I could say the same thing about golf, recreational boats or motorcycles, what's your point? ROFLMAO!! gee...i wasn't aware that golf widows were really widows!! they should be banned. Again, name me one thing that became unavailable because it was banned? Just one. All "banning" does is create a criminal enterprise to provide something.- fine. i'm willing to live with a small criminal enterprise instead of the LARGE one we have now. |
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On Aug 21, 2:29*am, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:21:09 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 20, 4:39*pm, wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:41:56 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: when people inject ammo into their veins you be sure and let me know. when ammo becomes a psychoactive chemical, drop me a note. People don't inject marijuana into their veins but a lot of people die because it is illegal. so is murder. you wanna legalize that too? That is not a logical leap. your argument is that making something illegal increases demand and is ineffective at driving down the incidence of that event. You only have to look at "prohibition" to see the problem with banning anything. you're right. let's let all the rapists and murderers free There is a significant difference between banning objects and making violent crimes illegal. violent crimes are banned. by your logic, everyone should be involved in murder and rape because they're illegal. the only way to stop murder is to legalize it. fine. i'm willing to live with a small criminal enterprise instead of the LARGE one we have now. Why do you thing gun running would be a small enterprise? because today we have 300,000,000 guns in the country. that volume of business would gather some attention if it were illegal. |
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On Aug 21, 11:32*am, wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:29:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: because today we have 300,000,000 guns in the country. that volume of business would gather some attention if it were illegal. There is a lot of attention gathered by the drug business but that doesn't stop it. You still haven't said how you would make those disappear. i already did. sorry you can't read The idea that you could stop the import of ammo is ludicrous. The world is awash in it from all of our military misadventures. You also have the problem that the equipment to reload ammo is everywhere. Guys will be dusting off their old Rock Chuckers and rolling their own. fine. it takes 25 years to get rid of guns? so what? None of this affects criminals. They don't use that much ammo. They usually shoot people with the bullets that were in the gun when it was stolen. ah. stolen. from gun owners who are too irresponsible to control access to their weapons yes, i know that. that's another reason to ban guns. gun owners are too irresponsible to have them. BTW using your number (300,000,000) that makes cars more dangerous than guns. 200,000,000 cars kill more people than 300,000,000 guns. Maybe we should ban them too. (I know, the "green" people are trying) cars have a use. guns dont |
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On Aug 21, 12:50*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:57:02 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: fine. it takes 25 years to get rid of guns? so what? There are 200 year old guns out there, why would they go away in *25 years? you saying we don't need gunsmiths? gee. i'll bet they're surprised at that. guns are mechanical. and they need service and repair. and spare parts... None of this affects criminals. They don't use that much ammo. They usually shoot people with the bullets that were in the gun when it was stolen. ah. stolen. from gun owners who are too irresponsible to control access to their weapons Like the cops and the US government? really? when's the last time your average crook stole a cop's weapon? You ignore the millions of military arms we (and the Soviets) *flooded South America with in the various anti commie wars. The guys bringing in the cocaine can just throw a few AKs and ARs on the pile. The mere fact that the Mexicans are complaining about "machine guns" takes the US out of the mix. We haven't made or imported a legal machine gun for the civilian market since the Reagan administration. ?? it's the easiest thing in the world to buy a machine gun. in allentown, PA there's a guy who sells them, legally, out of his house on 9th avenue. i've watched his 8 year daughter shoot a tommie gun... cars have a use. guns dont That is only because you don't believe in hunting and shooting sports. There are probably as many people who don't believe in driving.- really? i live in amish country. they're about the only folks who dont drive another of of your fairy tales |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0300, "Don White" wrote: You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. How high are you ASL. That makes the biggest difference in these things. You can survive the wind but the water will get you. My house is about 160 feet above sea level. The hugh mature trees in the backyard scare me. I bet they do, dummy. Just be happy you don't have "huge" trees! |
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D 1 wrote:
Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0300, "Don White" wrote: You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. How high are you ASL. That makes the biggest difference in these things. You can survive the wind but the water will get you. My house is about 160 feet above sea level. The hugh mature trees in the backyard scare me. I bet they do, dummy. Just be happy you don't have "huge" trees! That's odd, he named all of his trees "Hugh"? |
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"NotNow" wrote in message ... D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0300, "Don White" wrote: You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. How high are you ASL. That makes the biggest difference in these things. You can survive the wind but the water will get you. My house is about 160 feet above sea level. The hugh mature trees in the backyard scare me. I bet they do, dummy. Just be happy you don't have "huge" trees! That's odd, he named all of his trees "Hugh"? Don't you have some bones to break Kevin? |
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Don White wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0300, "Don White" wrote: You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. How high are you ASL. That makes the biggest difference in these things. You can survive the wind but the water will get you. My house is about 160 feet above sea level. The hugh mature trees in the backyard scare me. I bet they do, dummy. Just be happy you don't have "huge" trees! That's odd, he named all of his trees "Hugh"? Don't you have some bones to break Kevin? Maybe child protective services is watching... |
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:13:52 -0400, NotNow wrote:
D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0300, "Don White" wrote: You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. How high are you ASL. That makes the biggest difference in these things. You can survive the wind but the water will get you. My house is about 160 feet above sea level. The hugh mature trees in the backyard scare me. I bet they do, dummy. Just be happy you don't have "huge" trees! That's odd, he named all of his trees "Hugh"? Hugh trees were named for botanist Sir Dudley Hugh. A rare mutation of the chestnut, the blight wiped them out and they are all but forgotten. Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:13:52 -0400, NotNow wrote: D 1 wrote: Don White wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:38:01 -0300, "Don White" wrote: You're going to be sorley disappointed when we ride out a good blow. Maybe I'll get the Princecraft out for some wave surfing. How high are you ASL. That makes the biggest difference in these things. You can survive the wind but the water will get you. My house is about 160 feet above sea level. The hugh mature trees in the backyard scare me. I bet they do, dummy. Just be happy you don't have "huge" trees! That's odd, he named all of his trees "Hugh"? Hugh trees were named for botanist Sir Dudley Hugh. A rare mutation of the chestnut, the blight wiped them out and they are all but forgotten. Casady We bike on what is known locally as the American Chestnut Land Trust, a spot of land originally established to protect a large chestnut tree. The trust now has several thousand wooded acres. There are efforts long underway in Maryland to try to grow American chestnut trees, and there have been many efforts to try to clone a blight-resistant variety. I remember a couple of chestnut trees in fields behind where our house was in New Haven, and the pods in which the chestnuts grew. I'm sure the trees are long-gone now. They were big, beautiful trees with large leaves. |
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