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wf3h August 20th 09 01:30 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 19, 5:54*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally


33 dead people as a result.


thanks to the NRA


The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.


ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.

uh huh.

SteveB August 20th 09 01:31 AM

Children toting firepower...
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:11:41 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

The state has a pretty active trapping effort to get the wild hogs
knocked down. They are pretty thick everywhere around here. My wife
used to see them when she was jogging in the scrub park at the end of
our street. We have had them in the neighborhood. They are not
particularly aggressive. They are basically domestic hogs that got
loose.
We have just about everything living in that buffer though. There are
deer, black bear and occasionally a panther out there. The state
really owns the whole shore line of the Estero Bay,back a mile or so
with the exception of Weeks, a few places that have docks poking out
through the mangroves and the back side of the developed barrier
islands.
That is a lot of square miles to hide in.


If you've ever been in pig habitat, it is downright spooky. They can
eviscerate you, and they take substantial firepower to kill. Usually
several shots, as one only ****es them off. They are smart, and know
their
territory like the back of their hoof. Becoming quite a problem, even in
neighborhoods like yours where not long ago if you brought up the subject,
you would lose friends and credibility.

Steve


My wife has been able to run these hogs off just by yelling at them
and once she hit one in the head with a thrown NexTel.
I guess enough people kill them for food around here that they are a
little jumpy. I worry more about the alligators. One took a shot at my
dog on Saturday down at the beach. I managed to scare him off.


Lived in Southern Louisiana for ten years. Fished, swam, and did commercial
diving around them. They always scared the **** out of me.

Steve



SteveB August 20th 09 01:33 AM

Children toting firepower...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 6:11 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:37:09 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

as opposed to the GOP who raided my 401K so they could hand out
corporate welfare to enron, exxon, goldman sach, etc?


Huh? Enron was a Clinton era scam.


ROFLMAO!! free market economics were an obsession with the GOP. hell,
even greenspan was amazed at how greedy the wall street tycoons were.

If your 401k tracked the Dow you made 8x on your money, even after the
crash in 2008..


i just lost 20 years of contributions. 8x zip is still zip.

funny how the banks are paying their CEO's hundreds of millions this
year in bonuses, isn't it...after they raided the middle class to pay
for them

and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be
raped by the rich

reply: Lemme ask you this, Batman. During all this, what were YOU doing to
monitor and direct your funds?

Huh?

Steve




SteveB August 20th 09 01:35 AM

Children toting firepower...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 4:22 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Aug 19, 3:30 pm, jps wrote:





On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:09:28 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:


"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 10:48 am, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


...
On Aug 18, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:


jps wrote:
Couldn't agree with this writer more...


At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey’s home state,
writer
Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans
coming
to public meeting with deadly force in-tow.


“It is attempted intimidation,” he wrote. “It is an
acknowledgment
that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry
the
day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the
issue
using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can
purchase
at a local gunshop.”


Bookman continues: “It also reflects a growing mindset among some
that
the government just isn’t listening and thus must be made to
listen,
one way or the other. There’s a fundamental childishness to that
attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The
person
in
question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened
to
him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is
wrong.
So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point
of
a
gun.”


I suspect that the president is much safer with people who are
legally
carrying guns than with anyone else. In most states those who have
guns
have passed back ground checks, so have been "validated".- Hide
quoted
text -


the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally


33 dead people as a result.


thanks to the NRA


reply: yeah, the NRA sent the *******.


they enabled the *******. they're a bunch of amoral, pot bellied beer
swilling misanthropes who think the constitution should be limited to
the 2nd amendment


Reply:


You forgot to mention they will be the last line of defense when the
government starts collecting books they don't like and piling them in
the
streets to be burned. What sounds familiar about that?


Steve


NRA members will be the first to help the gov't collect the books and
burn them. They don't like them smart alecky folks.


who was it that said 'when a dictatorship comes to america, it won't
be with the hammer and sickle...it'll come wrapped in the flag, and
carrying a cross'....

aesop?

Who said the man who controls the election is the man who counts the
votes.
Lots of SEIU employees in every polling place I have worked for the last
twenty years.-


since about 7% of americans are unioned, but there is no penalty for
firing people who ATTEMPT to unionize, we know where the power in THAT
relationship is, don't we?

you probably believe in monsters under the bed, too.

reply: The quote about the man who counts the votes is from Josef Stalin.

And I can see you've never looked under MY bed.

Steve



wf3h August 20th 09 01:39 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 19, 8:33*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message



and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be
raped by the rich

reply: *Lemme ask you this, Batman. *During all this, what were YOU doing to
monitor and direct your funds?

Huh?

Steve


ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the
rich think that the middle class should

1. WORK for a living
2 give ALL their money to the rich
3 TRUST corporate america to guard their 401K investments
4 blame THEMSELVES when corporate america rapes the living **** out of
the middle class

christ...what a scam the rich have going...



wf3h August 20th 09 01:42 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 19, 8:35*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


since about 7% of americans are unioned, but there is no penalty for
firing people who ATTEMPT to unionize, we know where the power in THAT
relationship is, don't we?

you probably believe in monsters under the bed, too.

reply: *The quote about the man who counts the votes is from Josef Stalin.

And I can see you've never looked under MY bed.


yeah i know. the SEIU boogeyman lives there.

JustWait August 20th 09 02:38 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
In article ,
says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 10:48 am, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

....
On Aug 18, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:





jps wrote:
Couldn't agree with this writer more...


At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey?s home state, writer
Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans coming
to public meeting with deadly force in-tow.


?It is attempted intimidation,? he wrote. ?It is an acknowledgment
that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry the
day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue
using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can purchase
at a local gunshop.?


Bookman continues: ?It also reflects a growing mindset among some that
the government just isn?t listening and thus must be made to listen,
one way or the other. There?s a fundamental childishness to that
attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person in
question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to
him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is wrong.
So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of a
gun.?


I suspect that the president is much safer with people who are legally
carrying guns than with anyone else. In most states those who have guns
have passed back ground checks, so have been "validated".- Hide quoted
text -


the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally

33 dead people as a result.

thanks to the NRA

reply: yeah, the NRA sent the *******.


they enabled the *******. they're a bunch of amoral, pot bellied beer
swilling misanthropes who think the constitution should be limited to
the 2nd amendment

Reply:

You forgot to mention they will be the last line of defense when the
government starts collecting books they don't like and piling them in the
streets to be burned. What sounds familiar about that?

Steve


Geeze man, be careful, his mommie and daddy might call the cops if you
keep screwing with him. I mean listen to the kid, he must be all of 15
if that. At least his insults are fresher than WAFA's...



--
Wafa free since 2009

J i m. August 20th 09 02:45 AM

OT Hurricane Bill was kiddie guns...
 
Gene wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:26:37 -0400, wrote:

there is nothing to slow it down but the island of
Nova Scotia.


Don't know who the OP was, but..... Since when did Nova Scotia become
an island?????


Shhhh

JustWait August 20th 09 02:48 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
In article ,
says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 3:30 pm, jps wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:09:28 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:







"wf3h" wrote in message
....
On Aug 19, 10:48 am, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message


...
On Aug 18, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:


jps wrote:
Couldn't agree with this writer more...


At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey?s home state, writer
Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans
coming
to public meeting with deadly force in-tow.


?It is attempted intimidation,? he wrote. ?It is an acknowledgment
that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry
the
day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue
using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can
purchase
at a local gunshop.?


Bookman continues: ?It also reflects a growing mindset among some
that
the government just isn?t listening and thus must be made to
listen,
one way or the other. There?s a fundamental childishness to that
attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person
in
question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to
him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is
wrong.
So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of
a
gun.?


I suspect that the president is much safer with people who are
legally
carrying guns than with anyone else. In most states those who have
guns
have passed back ground checks, so have been "validated".- Hide
quoted
text -


the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally


33 dead people as a result.


thanks to the NRA


reply: yeah, the NRA sent the *******.


they enabled the *******. they're a bunch of amoral, pot bellied beer
swilling misanthropes who think the constitution should be limited to
the 2nd amendment


Reply:


You forgot to mention they will be the last line of defense when the
government starts collecting books they don't like and piling them in the
streets to be burned. What sounds familiar about that?


Steve


NRA members will be the first to help the gov't collect the books and
burn them. They don't like them smart alecky folks.


who was it that said 'when a dictatorship comes to america, it won't
be with the hammer and sickle...it'll come wrapped in the flag, and
carrying a cross'....

aesop?

Who said the man who controls the election is the man who counts the votes.
Lots of SEIU employees in every polling place I have worked for the last
twenty years.


Those green shirts would make mighty keen targets... Pick a couple off
and they would scatter like the cowardly dogs they are. Bunch of fat
lazy beer swilling wife beaters, nobody would miss them.

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait August 20th 09 02:57 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
In article ,
says...

Don White wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:09:28 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Mmmm yes, the pigs could have w'hine with their dinner.
I hope he's not intoxicating.
Don, if I were you I'd be hunkering down for the mother of all
hurricanes, coming soon to a place near you. No joke.



This could work to my advantage.
My next door neighbour just quoted me $6K to re-do my roof(s).
If the storm damages it...maybe my insurance company ...or the Federal Govt
might chip in, as they did after Juan smashed ashore here in 2003



$6K Canadian? Do you live in a dog house, dummy?


Hummmm... Donnie, typical union tit sucker, always looking to have
someone else pay his way. I can just see Dumb Donnie now, up there
tearing off his roof waiting for the insurance investigator... Hope he
gets nailed...
--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait August 20th 09 02:59 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 19, 5:54*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally

33 dead people as a result.

thanks to the NRA

The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.


ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.

uh huh.



It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.


OOOOPs. damn those facts... Doesn't matter, they will still blame the
right, the news will back them up, and the uninformed will eat it up...

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait August 20th 09 03:04 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:07*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

well let's see...did he suspend habeas corpus? nope. bush did.

When was that? You have said it several times.


why not read the controversy about his AG, gonzalez who wrote a memo
saying it was legal for the president to suspend habeas corpus


Did they actually do it?


try reading up on jose padilla. oh. you right wingers dont pay
attention if americans are tortured by right wing american presidents
'cuz that's done in the name of 'national security'.

uh huh.



You will have to talk to the 2d US district court of appeals on that
one.



did he extend unemployment benefits that the GOP wanted to cut off?
yep.

Every president since Eisenhower has extended unemployment during a
recession


funny that the GOP opposed it on 'moral hazard' theory grounds,
thinking the middle class is too lazy to work.


But Bush did extend unemployment during his recession



did he start to re-impose banking regulations that the GOP gutted?
yep.

Read the legislation, there were plenty of democrats involved with
this deregulation.



read the legislation. it was written by phil gramm, a texas
republican, and his wife, a sr. VP at enron. and we know how the GOP
loved enron. another chance to fleece the middle class.

Look at the votes on Gramm-Leach-Bliley.
155 house democrats and 38 democratic senators voted for it
Bill Clinton signed it into law

did he fire the general bush had running the afghan war? yep.

How many generals have there been in the 18 years of the crusade?
Clinton and Bush fired some too


exactly my point. bush fired the generals, like shinseki, who would
have won the wars, because he listened, like the puppet he was, to
rumsfeld


There is NO WINNING this cluster****


No, it's just a talking point... Gets pretty old huh?

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] August 20th 09 03:32 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
JustWait wrote:


Those green shirts would make mighty keen targets... Pick a couple off
and they would scatter like the cowardly dogs they are. Bunch of fat
lazy beer swilling wife beaters, nobody would miss them.



Wow...Scotty the Lu-ser, the guy who can't even hold down a warehouse
job, making nasty commments about working people, and threatening them,
too.

What a turd.


H the K[_2_] August 20th 09 03:33 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
JustWait wrote:


Hummmm... Donnie, typical union tit sucker,


Speaking of sucking, Scotty, just how much is it costing us taxpayers to
provide you and yours with the health care you can't pay for?

Don White August 20th 09 03:40 AM

OT Hurricane Bill was kiddie guns...
 

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:26:37 -0400, wrote:

there is nothing to slow it down but the island of
Nova Scotia.


Don't know who the OP was, but..... Since when did Nova Scotia become
an island?????
--



That's just Flatulent Jim expelling his vast geographical knowledge.
I think the sea would have to rise 10 or so feet to make us an island.
http://wikimapia.org/10004449/Isthmus-of-Chignecto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isthmus_of_Chignecto
http://crl.library.ns.ca/amhersthistory/chignecto.htm



H the K[_2_] August 20th 09 03:45 AM

OT Hurricane Bill was kiddie guns...
 
Don White wrote:
"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:26:37 -0400, wrote:

there is nothing to slow it down but the island of
Nova Scotia.

Don't know who the OP was, but..... Since when did Nova Scotia become
an island?????
--



That's just Flatulent Jim expelling his vast geographical knowledge.
I think the sea would have to rise 10 or so feet to make us an island.
http://wikimapia.org/10004449/Isthmus-of-Chignecto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isthmus_of_Chignecto
http://crl.library.ns.ca/amhersthistory/chignecto.htm




Whether NS is an island or not is no concern to flajim, since he doesn't
have a boat and has no need to consult a chart or a map.


Don White August 20th 09 03:55 AM

Children toting firepower...
 

"H the K" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:


Hummmm... Donnie, typical union tit sucker,


Speaking of sucking, Scotty, just how much is it costing us taxpayers to
provide you and yours with the health care you can't pay for?


I doubt he knows or cares...since it's not coming out of his pocket.



Don White August 20th 09 03:57 AM

Children toting firepower...
 

"H the K" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:


Those green shirts would make mighty keen targets... Pick a couple off
and they would scatter like the cowardly dogs they are. Bunch of fat lazy
beer swilling wife beaters, nobody would miss them.



Wow...Scotty the Lu-ser, the guy who can't even hold down a warehouse job,
making nasty commments about working people, and threatening them, too.

What a turd.




He sure does seem to have a lot in common with that nasty woman heckling the
Israeli guy.



SteveB August 20th 09 04:56 AM

Children toting firepower...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 8:33 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message



and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be
raped by the rich

reply: Lemme ask you this, Batman. During all this, what were YOU doing to
monitor and direct your funds?

Huh?

Steve


ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the
rich think that the middle class should

1. WORK for a living
2 give ALL their money to the rich
3 TRUST corporate america to guard their 401K investments
4 blame THEMSELVES when corporate america rapes the living **** out of
the middle class

christ...what a scam the rich have going...

reply: Don't know about you, Vern, but I know where my money is and why.
And that includes $400k frozen right now in first deeds and land we cannot
dump. I know what all my asssets are doing, and my wife was a CPA. If your
stuff took a ****, it was because no one was watching it, particularly YOU.
If you had cashed out, even with the early penalties, and invested in gold,
that has tripled since 2001. Other investment avenues were there, too, but
I guess you just trusted someone too much.

You didn't get stuck in the "middle class". You chose to stay there.

Steve




wf3h August 20th 09 11:08 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 19, 9:04 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:20:02 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Aug 19, 6:07 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:34:51 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


well let's see...did he suspend habeas corpus? nope. bush did.


When was that? You have said it several times.


why not read the controversy about his AG, gonzalez who wrote a memo
saying it was legal for the president to suspend habeas corpus


Did they actually do it?


ah. so when you think obama TRIES to destroy the constitution you get
paranoid

but when it's proven the GOP actually DID try...well, that's OK.

uh huh. i think i see where you're coming from. the far right, you
think, should have a monopoly on power.



try reading up on jose padilla. oh. you right wingers dont pay
attention if americans are tortured by right wing american presidents
'cuz that's done in the name of 'national security'.


uh huh.


You will have to talk to the 2d US district court of appeals on that
one.


you mean after 4 years of solitary, no access to a lawyer, and being
driven insane, an american citizen was finally given access to the
courts IN SPITE of what bush tried to do

you're proving my case. thanks.

did he extend unemployment benefits that the GOP wanted to cut off?
yep.


Every president since Eisenhower has extended unemployment during a
recession


funny that the GOP opposed it on 'moral hazard' theory grounds,
thinking the middle class is too lazy to work.


But Bush did extend unemployment during his recession


bush caused it. the least he could do was give the middle class a
pittance. and it was a democratic congress that extended the benefits
over his objections.




did he start to re-impose banking regulations that the GOP gutted?
yep.


Read the legislation, there were plenty of democrats involved with
this deregulation.

read the legislation. it was written by phil gramm, a texas
republican, and his wife, a sr. VP at enron. and we know how the GOP
loved enron. another chance to fleece the middle class.


Look at the votes on Gramm-Leach-Bliley.
155 house democrats and 38 democratic senators voted for it
Bill Clinton signed it into law


yep because they got stampeded...just like you have...by the myth of
the 'free market'. even after the biggest collapse in US history you
still thump your chest and tell us how the markets need to be
deregulated.

why not just send ALL of your money to the rich?



did he fire the general bush had running the afghan war? yep.


How many generals have there been in the 18 years of the crusade?
Clinton and Bush fired some too


exactly my point. bush fired the generals, like shinseki, who would
have won the wars, because he listened, like the puppet he was, to
rumsfeld


There is NO WINNING this cluster****


but you're losing it.



wf3h August 20th 09 11:11 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 19, 11:56*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Aug 19, 8:33 pm, "SteveB" wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message


and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be
raped by the rich


reply: Lemme ask you this, Batman. During all this, what were YOU doing to
monitor and direct your funds?


Huh?


Steve


ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the
rich think that the middle class should

1. WORK for a living
2 give ALL their money to the rich
3 TRUST corporate america to guard their 401K investments
4 blame THEMSELVES when corporate america rapes the living **** out of
the middle class

christ...what a scam the rich have going...

reply: *Don't know about you, Vern, but I know where my money is and why.


i don't know about you, but i bought the 'free market' line pushed by
right wingers. i PAID THE FREE MARKET GUYS to do what they SAID they
would do: protect the middle class

i love your logic. there's no way to prove you wrong. if the market
succeeds, it's because the market cant fail. and when it fails, it's
your fault

god, no wonder the rich love folks like you.

And that includes $400k frozen right now in first deeds and land we cannot
dump. *I know what all my asssets are doing, and my wife was a CPA. *If your
stuff took a ****, it was because no one was watching it, particularly YOU.


yeah go figure. me and alan greenspan, george bush, dick cheney, the
SEC and a hundred million middle class wage earners.

You didn't get stuck in the "middle class". *You chose to stay there.


IOW it's never the fault of the rich. it's ALWAYS the fault of the
middle class.

as i said...the rich know there will always be folks like you to suck
their dicks.

wf3h August 20th 09 11:13 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 19, 9:22*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally


33 dead people as a result.


thanks to the NRA


The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.


ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.


uh huh.


It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.-


and it's the NRA that opposes any restrictions on guns at all. it
opposed instant checks. it opposed taking guns away from crazy people,
wife abusers, etc.

in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd
amendment and ban guns completely.

wf3h August 20th 09 11:13 AM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 19, 9:59*pm, JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...







On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Aug 19, 5:54*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally


33 dead people as a result.


thanks to the NRA


The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.


ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.


uh huh.


It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.


OOOOPs. damn those facts... Doesn't matter, they will still blame the
right, the news will back them up, and the uninformed will eat it up...

--


the NRA wouldnt know a fact if it walked into NRA HQ and sat on the
chairman's desk

Proprietario di Guzzi August 20th 09 11:27 AM

OT Hurricane Bill was kiddie guns...
 
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:34:20 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:26:37 -0400, wrote:

there is nothing to slow it down but the island of
Nova Scotia.


Don't know who the OP was, but..... Since when did Nova Scotia become
an island?????


Apparently you missed the Al Gore movie. It'll probably happen this
century, when the sea level rises twenty-two feet due to mankind.
--
John H.

"The truth is that unions are essentially parasitic organizations that
thrive only by draining and ultimately destroying the companies and
industries they control."

BAR[_2_] August 20th 09 12:19 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:22 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally
33 dead people as a result.
thanks to the NRA
The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.
ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.
uh huh.

It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.-


and it's the NRA that opposes any restrictions on guns at all. it
opposed instant checks. it opposed taking guns away from crazy people,
wife abusers, etc.

in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd
amendment and ban guns completely.


If that is your desire I suggest you get started on the process to amend
the Constitution.

Richard Casady August 20th 09 12:19 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:52:57 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Scopes and lasers are for people who can't shoot.


Scopes are quite useful to those of advancing years whose eyes are not
what they once were. They extend the period just after sunset when the
deer, for example, show themselves, as they can be used in dimmer
light than iron sights. The iron sights have advantages: lighter and
more compact, more rugged [usually], cheaper.

Casady

wf3h August 20th 09 12:39 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 20, 7:19*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:22 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally
33 dead people as a result.
thanks to the NRA
The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.
ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy..
uh huh.
It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.-


and it's the NRA that opposes any restrictions on guns at all. it
opposed instant checks. it opposed taking guns away from crazy people,
wife abusers, etc.


in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd
amendment and ban guns completely.


If that is your desire I suggest you get started on the process to amend
the Constitution.-


if only i had the time. i work for a living.


Don White August 20th 09 12:47 PM

OT Hurricane Bill was kiddie guns...
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:40:19 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

I think the sea would have to rise 10 or so feet to make us an island.


I suppose that is a northern thing.
Here in the tropics we have storms that would blow that skinny little
finger of land away. It is common to have people wake up after a storm
and find a new pass where a solid stretch of land used to be.
On the other hand the two islands a few miles away might be one big
one now. At any rate I hope Bill takes it easy on you folks. Be safe.


Thanks...the local surfers are already chomping at the bit for a chance at
really big waves (by this areas standards)



Richard Casady August 20th 09 01:06 PM

OT Hurricane Bill was kiddie guns...
 
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:26:37 -0400, wrote:

The NHS still has that coming into Nova Scotia at a 2 so Don should be
picking up the loose stuff around the house.
I don't suppose they do shutters and such up there.


If you lose a window you will get water damage that has to be seen to
be believed. Even with a Cat II. Will there be a plywood shortage?

Casady

BAR[_2_] August 20th 09 01:14 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 20, 7:19 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:22 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally
33 dead people as a result.
thanks to the NRA
The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.
ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy..
uh huh.
It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.-
and it's the NRA that opposes any restrictions on guns at all. it
opposed instant checks. it opposed taking guns away from crazy people,
wife abusers, etc.
in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd
amendment and ban guns completely.

If that is your desire I suggest you get started on the process to amend
the Constitution.-


if only i had the time. i work for a living.


I guess you are not serious about your stated desire. If you were
serious you would find the time.

Now we know you are just a whiner.


NotNow[_3_] August 20th 09 01:56 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
D 1 wrote:
Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
jps wrote:
Couldn't agree with this writer more...


At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey’s home state, writer
Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans coming
to public meeting with deadly force in-tow. “It is attempted
intimidation,” he wrote. “It is an acknowledgment
that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry the
day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue
using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can
purchase
at a local gunshop.”

Bookman continues: “It also reflects a growing mindset among some
that
the government just isn’t listening and thus must be made to listen,
one way or the other. There’s a fundamental childishness to that
attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person in
question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to
him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is
wrong.
So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of a
gun.”
Sooner rather than later, one of the gun-toting right-wing
nincompoops is going to open fire or "have an accident" or get into
a brawl with law enforcement.

When these armed idiots show up at public meetings at which the
president is going to appear, it increases the workload of the
secret service and local police forces.
Some kind of federal law restricting weapons within a couple
thousand feet of anywhere the President of member of congress may be
is in order
This is something you couldn't trust the individual states to
pass/enforce.

I've been practicing so I can handle the impending invasion of the
Loogy/JustHate Zombies...


http://tinyurl.com/ma5znl


First five shot group at 100 yards from the new ZombieKiller Rifle. I
was plopped on a ground cloth and using the rifle's built-in sights.
Took a couple of shots first to sight in for elevation...there wasn't
any wind.

Tomorrow I'm going to try some shots with the new scope I just
attached. Once I get used to it, I should be able to put five between
the eyes of your typical zombie at 100 yards.


I have an old semi-auto 22 cal rifle with a 6x scope that I haven't
fired in 25 years or so.
I should get it out and do some practice myself.... just in case those
'zombies' make it across the border. ;-)



Whatever you do - don't clean the barrel! The first shot will do that
for you.


What an idiot! He thinks zombies are real.

NotNow[_3_] August 20th 09 02:06 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 3:30 pm, jps wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:09:28 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:







"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 10:48 am, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 18, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
jps wrote:
Couldn't agree with this writer more...
At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey?s home state, writer
Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans
coming
to public meeting with deadly force in-tow.
?It is attempted intimidation,? he wrote. ?It is an acknowledgment
that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry
the
day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue
using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can
purchase
at a local gunshop.?
Bookman continues: ?It also reflects a growing mindset among some
that
the government just isn?t listening and thus must be made to
listen,
one way or the other. There?s a fundamental childishness to that
attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person
in
question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to
him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is
wrong.
So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of
a
gun.?
I suspect that the president is much safer with people who are
legally
carrying guns than with anyone else. In most states those who have
guns
have passed back ground checks, so have been "validated".- Hide
quoted
text -
the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally
33 dead people as a result.
thanks to the NRA
reply: yeah, the NRA sent the *******.
they enabled the *******. they're a bunch of amoral, pot bellied beer
swilling misanthropes who think the constitution should be limited to
the 2nd amendment
Reply:
You forgot to mention they will be the last line of defense when the
government starts collecting books they don't like and piling them in the
streets to be burned. What sounds familiar about that?
Steve
NRA members will be the first to help the gov't collect the books and
burn them. They don't like them smart alecky folks.

who was it that said 'when a dictatorship comes to america, it won't
be with the hammer and sickle...it'll come wrapped in the flag, and
carrying a cross'....

aesop?

Who said the man who controls the election is the man who counts the votes.
Lots of SEIU employees in every polling place I have worked for the last
twenty years.


Those green shirts would make mighty keen targets... Pick a couple off
and they would scatter like the cowardly dogs they are. Bunch of fat
lazy beer swilling wife beaters, nobody would miss them.


Scotty, did you happen to catch Hannity last night? Those conservatives
at the town hall meetings that you claim were just concerned citizens?
Hannity had the guy on that "organized" them. He stated that they were
there to disrupt the meetings to the point that nothing gets said.
Precious, huh?

JustWait August 20th 09 02:11 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,

says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 3:30 pm, jps wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:09:28 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:







"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 10:48 am, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 18, 9:33 pm, Keith Nuttle wrote:
jps wrote:
Couldn't agree with this writer more...
At The Atlanta Journal Constitution in Gingrey?s home state, writer
Jay Bookman takes issue with the increasing trend of Americans
coming
to public meeting with deadly force in-tow.
?It is attempted intimidation,? he wrote. ?It is an acknowledgment
that, lacking the intellectual firepower and ammunition to carry
the
day, the person in question is prepared to try to settle the issue
using the kind of firepower and ammunition that any idiot can
purchase
at a local gunshop.?
Bookman continues: ?It also reflects a growing mindset among some
that
the government just isn?t listening and thus must be made to
listen,
one way or the other. There?s a fundamental childishness to that
attitude, a notion that equates listening to agreement. The person
in
question is not prepared to accept the idea that having listened to
him, a majority of his fellow Americans might decide that he is
wrong.
So he reserves the right to try to impose his view at the point of
a
gun.?
I suspect that the president is much safer with people who are
legally
carrying guns than with anyone else. In most states those who have
guns
have passed back ground checks, so have been "validated".- Hide
quoted
text -
the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally
33 dead people as a result.
thanks to the NRA
reply: yeah, the NRA sent the *******.
they enabled the *******. they're a bunch of amoral, pot bellied beer
swilling misanthropes who think the constitution should be limited to
the 2nd amendment
Reply:
You forgot to mention they will be the last line of defense when the
government starts collecting books they don't like and piling them in the
streets to be burned. What sounds familiar about that?
Steve
NRA members will be the first to help the gov't collect the books and
burn them. They don't like them smart alecky folks.

who was it that said 'when a dictatorship comes to america, it won't
be with the hammer and sickle...it'll come wrapped in the flag, and
carrying a cross'....

aesop?

Who said the man who controls the election is the man who counts the votes.
Lots of SEIU employees in every polling place I have worked for the last
twenty years.


Those green shirts would make mighty keen targets... Pick a couple off
and they would scatter like the cowardly dogs they are. Bunch of fat
lazy beer swilling wife beaters, nobody would miss them.


Scotty, did you happen to catch Hannity last night? Those conservatives
at the town hall meetings that you claim were just concerned citizens?
Hannity had the guy on that "organized" them. He stated that they were
there to disrupt the meetings to the point that nothing gets said.
Precious, huh?


Yeah, did you see it the night they showed La Raza at Colombia
University, forcefully driving the MinuteMen and their speakers from the
building only after they (La Raza) had their say on stage? Did you see
the attacks on Buchanon, Gingrich, etc where angry mobs with signs
forced them from the stage?? Did you see the SIEU cowards beating the
black kid for selling buttons?? I am still looking for the video of
grandma stopping a congressman from speaking or threatening his life???
Grandma hasn't done anything bue exercise free speech, nothing violent,
nothing to take away any body else s civil rights...

--
Wafa free since 2009

wf3h August 20th 09 04:00 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 20, 8:14*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:

if only i had the time. i work for a living.


I guess you are not serious about your stated desire. If you were
serious you would find the time.

Now we know you are just a whiner.-


uh, no. i was a believer in the free market. unlike you, however, i
can handle reality and don't need to retreat into fantasy.

hope your mom told you to quit sucking your thumb or you're going to
need braces

SteveB August 20th 09 04:01 PM

Children toting firepower...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 11:56 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Aug 19, 8:33 pm, "SteveB" wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message


and then got idiots like you to tell us how fortunate we are to be
raped by the rich


reply: Lemme ask you this, Batman. During all this, what were YOU doing
to
monitor and direct your funds?


Huh?


Steve


ROFLMAO!! i love this logic. the children who suck the dicks of the
rich think that the middle class should

1. WORK for a living
2 give ALL their money to the rich
3 TRUST corporate america to guard their 401K investments
4 blame THEMSELVES when corporate america rapes the living **** out of
the middle class

christ...what a scam the rich have going...

reply: Don't know about you, Vern, but I know where my money is and why.


i don't know about you, but i bought the 'free market' line pushed by
right wingers. i PAID THE FREE MARKET GUYS to do what they SAID they
would do: protect the middle class

i love your logic. there's no way to prove you wrong. if the market
succeeds, it's because the market cant fail. and when it fails, it's
your fault

god, no wonder the rich love folks like you.

And that includes $400k frozen right now in first deeds and land we cannot
dump. I know what all my asssets are doing, and my wife was a CPA. If your
stuff took a ****, it was because no one was watching it, particularly
YOU.


yeah go figure. me and alan greenspan, george bush, dick cheney, the
SEC and a hundred million middle class wage earners.

You didn't get stuck in the "middle class". You chose to stay there.


IOW it's never the fault of the rich. it's ALWAYS the fault of the
middle class.

as i said...the rich know there will always be folks like you to suck
their dicks.

reply: You still seem to be stuck in ad hominem attacks. You are not worth
debating, as you cannot get over your bitterness of being a failure in your
own life, not managing your finances better, not following your investments
better, and now seeming to claim to belong to some class of people who
deserves compensation.

It must suck to be you.

Steve



SteveB August 20th 09 04:02 PM

Children toting firepower...
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:22 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally
33 dead people as a result.
thanks to the NRA
The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.
ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.
uh huh.
It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.-


and it's the NRA that opposes any restrictions on guns at all. it
opposed instant checks. it opposed taking guns away from crazy people,
wife abusers, etc.

in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd
amendment and ban guns completely.


If that is your desire I suggest you get started on the process to amend
the Constitution.


As he is entitled to do, but is too stupid to understand or learn. (He
slept through the classes the first time ..... civics, government, etc.)

Steve



SteveB August 20th 09 04:03 PM

Children toting firepower...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 20, 7:19 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:22 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally
33 dead people as a result.
thanks to the NRA
The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it
dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.
ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.
uh huh.
It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.-


and it's the NRA that opposes any restrictions on guns at all. it
opposed instant checks. it opposed taking guns away from crazy people,
wife abusers, etc.


in fact gun control is meaningless. we need to repeal the 2nd
amendment and ban guns completely.


If that is your desire I suggest you get started on the process to amend
the Constitution.-


if only i had the time. i work for a living.

reply: Wow, that's a plausible excuse. So, what it amounts to is that you
really do not believe in what you belive in enough to work to make it
happen. Do I have it right?

Steve



SteveB August 20th 09 04:04 PM

Children toting firepower...
 

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 9:59 pm, JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...







On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:30:17 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Aug 19, 5:54 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:27:49 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


the biggest gun mass killer, the guy at VA tech...owned his guns
legally


33 dead people as a result.


thanks to the NRA


The university itself is admitting tonight on the news that it
dropped
the ball on this guy. He was known to be crazy as a ****house rat but
they never told anyone so his background check came back clean.


ah. well. that makes it OK then. it's OK if crazy people have guns to
slaughter 33 people, as long as they didn't tell anyone they're crazy.


uh huh.


It is not OK but you either have to loosen privacy laws about crazy
people or risk the danger of them buying guns. BTW the NRA says the
instant check should include mental health records. It is the left who
says that should remain private.


OOOOPs. damn those facts... Doesn't matter, they will still blame the
right, the news will back them up, and the uninformed will eat it up...

--


the NRA wouldnt know a fact if it walked into NRA HQ and sat on the
chairman's desk


reply: pot .............. kettle ..................



SteveB August 20th 09 04:07 PM

Children toting firepower...
 

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 08:52:57 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote:

Scopes and lasers are for people who can't shoot.


Scopes are quite useful to those of advancing years whose eyes are not
what they once were. They extend the period just after sunset when the
deer, for example, show themselves, as they can be used in dimmer
light than iron sights. The iron sights have advantages: lighter and
more compact, more rugged [usually], cheaper.

Casady


I agree. But in the context of the conversation, the poster was not even
using the proper terminology for iron sights, showing a lack of knowledge.
There are a lot of people who own guns who really don't understand them, or
are able to use them with much proficiency. They always want bigger
magazines and larger caliber, plus anything other gimmick that will
compensate for lack of skill and experience.

Steve



wf3h August 20th 09 04:14 PM

Children toting firepower...
 
On Aug 20, 11:01*am, "SteveB" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message



IOW it's never the fault of the rich. it's ALWAYS the fault of the
middle class.

as i said...the rich know there will always be folks like you to suck
their dicks.

reply: *You still seem to be stuck in ad hominem attacks.


blah blah blah...

*You are not worth
debating, as you cannot get over your bitterness of being a failure in your
own life, not managing your finances better, not following your investments


again, you seem to be unable to grasp a simple fact:

your argument is unprovable. if someone makes alot of money it proves
the rich are right. if they lose alot of money, the rich had nothing
to do with that.

i would expect such an argument of a 5 year old. you're unable to
function as an adult. you are unable to understand that markets fail.
those words simply are not in your vocabulary.


better, and now seeming to claim to belong to some class of people who
deserves compensation.

It must suck to be you.


yeah, being an adult is tough. glad you aren't one.


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