When the White House recieves...
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:01:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:


"The ACLU said in a statement to FOXNews.com that the White House blog
is a "bad idea that could send a troublesome message."

I would have something against them maintaining the email addresses of
those who disagreed with their policies. Yes.

Not to mention, it's against the law...

Which I believe was passed in the 70's long before there was a President
Bush.

When the White House recieves...
 

In article ,
says...

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:01:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?

Even liberals are questioning it:

"The ACLU said in a statement to FOXNews.com that the White House blog
is a "bad idea that could send a troublesome message."

I would have something against them maintaining the email addresses of
those who disagreed with their policies. Yes.
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"

Sorry, we lost a lot of our civil liberties with Bush. Didn't seem like
a problem for you at the time.

Please name a civil right you lost??

--
Wafa free since 2009

When the White House recieves...
 

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:42:53 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:01:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?
Even liberals are questioning it:

"The ACLU said in a statement to FOXNews.com that the White House blog
is a "bad idea that could send a troublesome message."

I would have something against them maintaining the email addresses of
those who disagreed with their policies. Yes.
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Sorry, we lost a lot of our civil liberties with Bush. Didn't seem like
a problem for you at the time.

The 'Bush Rationale' at its best.
--
John H


Thanks for agreeing!

When the White House recieves...
 

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:55:13 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?
No, but the constitution doesn't look kindly on these lists... Or direct
personal attacks on private citizens from the Oval Office either, but
that's another story.. Oh, wait, no it isn't...;)


Nor the loss of our civil liberties through the Bush regime, but I
didn't here the right complain about that!

You're making use of the 'Bush Rationale' with much bravado.

Just what civil liberty did you lose?

(This should be fun!)
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Privacy.

When the White House recieves...
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:01:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?
Even liberals are questioning it:

"The ACLU said in a statement to FOXNews.com that the White House blog
is a "bad idea that could send a troublesome message."

I would have something against them maintaining the email addresses of
those who disagreed with their policies. Yes.
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Sorry, we lost a lot of our civil liberties with Bush. Didn't seem like
a problem for you at the time.

Please name a civil right you lost??

Here's several:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0307/S00041.htm

http://www.historycommons.org/projec...civilliberties

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...of_rights.html

When the White House recieves...
 

In article ,
says...

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:42:53 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:01:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?
Even liberals are questioning it:

"The ACLU said in a statement to FOXNews.com that the White House blog
is a "bad idea that could send a troublesome message."

I would have something against them maintaining the email addresses of
those who disagreed with their policies. Yes.
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Sorry, we lost a lot of our civil liberties with Bush. Didn't seem like
a problem for you at the time.

The 'Bush Rationale' at its best.
--
John H


Thanks for agreeing!

The problem with the list is that it will turn into 25 hundred personal
FBI files on these folks showing up in Michelle Obama's office 6 months
after the court had ordered them returned...

--
Wafa free since 2009

When the White House recieves...
 

In article ,
says...

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:55:13 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?
No, but the constitution doesn't look kindly on these lists... Or direct
personal attacks on private citizens from the Oval Office either, but
that's another story.. Oh, wait, no it isn't...;)


Nor the loss of our civil liberties through the Bush regime, but I
didn't here the right complain about that!

You're making use of the 'Bush Rationale' with much bravado.

Just what civil liberty did you lose?

(This should be fun!)
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Privacy.

Really, what private information about you was gathered, and how was it
used against you? Or are you still hawking the "library card" thing
which of course was never used?

--
Wafa free since 2009

When the White House recieves...
 

NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:01:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow
wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For
example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what
happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the
Whitehouse an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers
show your email address. The Whitehouse can't erase that
material for about a dozen years or so. The insinuation is
that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from those
emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like
that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin.
contacting me to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or
anyone you know? OR could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at
the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies
from the right are being propagated?
Even liberals are questioning it:
"The ACLU said in a statement to FOXNews.com that the White House blog
is a "bad idea that could send a troublesome message."

I would have something against them maintaining the email addresses of
those who disagreed with their policies. Yes.
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Sorry, we lost a lot of our civil liberties with Bush. Didn't seem
like a problem for you at the time.

Please name a civil right you lost??

Here's several:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0307/S00041.htm

Go to a book store and purchase the book for cash. Public libraries are
government entities.

http://www.historycommons.org/projec...civilliberties

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...of_rights.html

Where are the lawsuits of those who have had their civil rights
curtailed. Have any of these lawsuits reached the Supreme Court? What is
the disposition of those cases heard at the Supreme Court?

When the White House recieves...
 

In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:01:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?
Even liberals are questioning it:

"The ACLU said in a statement to FOXNews.com that the White House blog
is a "bad idea that could send a troublesome message."

I would have something against them maintaining the email addresses of
those who disagreed with their policies. Yes.
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Sorry, we lost a lot of our civil liberties with Bush. Didn't seem like
a problem for you at the time.

Please name a civil right you lost??

Here's several:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0307/S00041.htm


Was never used...



http://www.historycommons.org/projec...civilliberties

This took me to stuff about Nixon for God sakes.. What data sets are you
looking at?
Here is where your link took me when I clicked on "freedom of speech"

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?
timeline=civilliberties&civilliberties_privacy=civ illiberties_freedom_of
_speech

Frekin' Nixon?? Man...

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...of_rights.html



--
Wafa free since 2009

When the White House recieves...
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:55:13 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:25:51 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Proprietario di Guzzi wrote:
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:04:01 -0400, NotNow wrote:

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
a 'fishy email' report, what does it do with the email. For example,
if Loogy forwards an email from me to the White House, what happens to
my email, name, etc.?
The issue is not that. The concern is that someone sends the Whitehouse
an email you wrote or forwarded and the headers show your email address.
The Whitehouse can't erase that material for about a dozen years or so.
The insinuation is that the Whitehouse possibly harvested a list from
those emails and emailed "detractors" with a sales pitch.. I am not
saying it happened, but that is the insinuation..

I'm betting that you think the Bush admin. did nothing like that, huh?
I don't recall the Bush administration asking me to forward 'fishy'
emails so the administration could take action.

Do you have a reference?

That's odd, I don't remember anyone from the Obama admin. contacting me
to forward "fishy" emails. Did they contact you, or anyone you know? OR
could it be another conservative lie?
You mean a true liberal, like yourself, isn't wired to the White
House?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts...ubborn-Things/

Shame on you.

From the source, "Since we can?t keep track of all of them here at the
White House, we?re asking for your help. If you get an email or see
something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy,
send it to ."

Sounds like phishing to me. Haven't you been forwarding all the posts
from folks not agreeing with Obama?
--
John H

"Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant
that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it."
-- Thomas Sowell
So you have something against them wanting to know where the lies from
the right are being propagated?
No, but the constitution doesn't look kindly on these lists... Or direct
personal attacks on private citizens from the Oval Office either, but
that's another story.. Oh, wait, no it isn't...;)


Nor the loss of our civil liberties through the Bush regime, but I
didn't here the right complain about that!
You're making use of the 'Bush Rationale' with much bravado.

Just what civil liberty did you lose?

(This should be fun!)
--
John H

"BEND OVER - The 'change' is coming!"
Privacy.

Really, what private information about you was gathered, and how was it
used against you? Or are you still hawking the "library card" thing
which of course was never used?

Uh, I take it you haven't read the act, huh? Student records, banking
records, travel records, etc. CAPPS II program that mines public
databases. The act also allows the government to eavesdrop on
conservations between lawyer/client. After Cointelpro in the seventies,
the FBI wasn't allowed to secretly attend religious or political
meetings, until Bush overturned it. Bush had Brett Bursey arrested for
threatining the safety of the President. What did he do? He carried a
sign that said "No War For Oil". There's more if you need it. But then
again, we all know anything Bush did = good.