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Frogwatch August 12th 09 03:00 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).

H the K August 12th 09 03:03 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).



You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.

Frogwatch August 12th 09 03:12 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 11, 10:03*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.


Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work of the
devil.

Tim August 12th 09 04:16 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 11, 10:01*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


I experienced some cold water this evening.

the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.

CalifBill August 12th 09 05:21 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


60 degrees at the surface yer round.



jps August 12th 09 05:39 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 11, 10:03*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.


Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work of the
devil.


Uncle Walt is the Devil? Something we agree on!

Frogwatch August 12th 09 02:46 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 12:39*am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:03*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.


Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work of the
devil.


Uncle Walt is the Devil? *Something we agree on!


jps, now that is interesting, we do agree on somethings. Hope and
Change for real.

H the K August 12th 09 03:00 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:36 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:21:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
60 degrees at the surface yer round.
Nope I am not sticking a toe in that.
I'm an 80 and over guy, we like 85.
Take a cruise on the Tahoe Queen or the other paddlewheeler. Nice cruise of
the lake, and stops at Vikingsholm at Emerald Bay.http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=506
We boat there once in a while.

Notnow: Thanks for the tip, I dunno how much time we will have. It
is a 10 hr drive from here.


Now I gotta decide, rush camper to completion tonite or go with the
tent. We have heard there are problem bears at Deep Creek. Been
there, done that, proved I can sit in my tent or in my sleeping bag
scared to death while they tear up my stuff next to me. Being older
gives me the right to be a wimp and want to be in a hard sided
camper. Have not put camper onto truck yet and I anticipate some
fitting problems, worth rushing or not for leaving tomorrow morning.



Be a man. Sleep in the tent. Take some righties here with you, and tie
them to trees to placate and feed the bears. A win-win situation.

H the K August 12th 09 03:03 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:39 am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:03 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.
Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work of the
devil.

Uncle Walt is the Devil? Something we agree on!


jps, now that is interesting, we do agree on somethings. Hope and
Change for real.



You're a funny guy. If it weren't for the touristas in Florida, the
entire state would have dried up and blown away years ago, and you'd be
floating one of those doggy boats of yours up a dry creek, paddle
unnecessary.

it's me, Jim August 12th 09 03:08 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:39 am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:03 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.
Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work of the
devil.
Uncle Walt is the Devil? Something we agree on!


jps, now that is interesting, we do agree on somethings. Hope and
Change for real.



You're a funny guy. If it weren't for the touristas in Florida, the
entire state would have dried up and blown away years ago, and you'd be
floating one of those doggy boats of yours up a dry creek, paddle
unnecessary.


Florida thanks you for your business. Come again soon.

NotNow[_3_] August 12th 09 03:14 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


I take a trip up that way once or twice a year. I like going to Flat
Rock/Hendersonville area. If you are going up I-85 from GA into SC,
there's a really nice ride on a little state road going up into the
mountains. It's state route 11, the first exit in SC after crossing Lake
Hartwell.

NotNow[_3_] August 12th 09 03:17 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


It's VERY cold!

NotNow[_3_] August 12th 09 03:28 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
it's me, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:39 am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:03 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.
Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work of the
devil.
Uncle Walt is the Devil? Something we agree on!

jps, now that is interesting, we do agree on somethings. Hope and
Change for real.



You're a funny guy. If it weren't for the touristas in Florida, the
entire state would have dried up and blown away years ago, and you'd
be floating one of those doggy boats of yours up a dry creek, paddle
unnecessary.


Florida thanks you for your business. Come again soon.


Boy, that sure shows Harry's ignorance! Guess he knows nothing of the
industries in FL.
Aerospace
Agriculture (many, many major types)
Aquaculture
Dairy
Horticulture industry (HUGE greenhouses)
Poultry
Beef
And on and on....

it's me, Jim August 12th 09 04:07 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
NotNow wrote:
it's me, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:39 am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:03 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is
tent #4
and is almost worn out).
You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.
Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work of
the
devil.
Uncle Walt is the Devil? Something we agree on!

jps, now that is interesting, we do agree on somethings. Hope and
Change for real.


You're a funny guy. If it weren't for the touristas in Florida, the
entire state would have dried up and blown away years ago, and you'd
be floating one of those doggy boats of yours up a dry creek, paddle
unnecessary.


Florida thanks you for your business. Come again soon.


Boy, that sure shows Harry's ignorance! Guess he knows nothing of the
industries in FL.
Aerospace
Agriculture (many, many major types)
Aquaculture
Dairy
Horticulture industry (HUGE greenhouses)
Poultry
Beef
And on and on....


Oh, he knows. Krause is just being a nasty **** ant. He can't help himself.

NotNow[_3_] August 12th 09 04:55 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
it's me, Jim wrote:
NotNow wrote:
it's me, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 12:39 am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:12:50 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:03 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still
about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is
tent #4
and is almost worn out).
You could do some whitewater tubing at WDW in Orlando, and stay
in a
nice, well-furnished room with a full bath at night, cheapskate.
Bein a radical FL native who wishes everybody else would go back to
whatever yankee hell they came from, I think Disney is the work
of the
devil.
Uncle Walt is the Devil? Something we agree on!

jps, now that is interesting, we do agree on somethings. Hope and
Change for real.


You're a funny guy. If it weren't for the touristas in Florida, the
entire state would have dried up and blown away years ago, and you'd
be floating one of those doggy boats of yours up a dry creek, paddle
unnecessary.

Florida thanks you for your business. Come again soon.


Boy, that sure shows Harry's ignorance! Guess he knows nothing of the
industries in FL.
Aerospace
Agriculture (many, many major types)
Aquaculture
Dairy
Horticulture industry (HUGE greenhouses)
Poultry
Beef
And on and on....


Oh, he knows. Krause is just being a nasty **** ant. He can't help himself.


Yep, anywhere that the asshole doesn't live isn't worth anything. WAFA

Calif Bill[_2_] August 12th 09 06:17 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:21:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).

My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


60 degrees at the surface yer round.


Nope I am not sticking a toe in that.
I'm an 80 and over guy, we like 85.


Take a cruise on the Tahoe Queen or the other paddlewheeler. Nice cruise of
the lake, and stops at Vikingsholm at Emerald Bay.
http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=506

We boat there once in a while.



Frogwatch[_2_] August 12th 09 06:36 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 1:17*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:21:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


60 degrees at the surface yer round.


Nope I am not sticking a toe in that.
I'm an 80 and over guy, we like 85.


Take a cruise on the Tahoe Queen or the other paddlewheeler. *Nice cruise of
the lake, and stops at Vikingsholm at Emerald Bay.http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=506

We boat there once in a while.


Notnow: Thanks for the tip, I dunno how much time we will have. It
is a 10 hr drive from here.

Frogwatch[_2_] August 12th 09 06:43 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 1:36*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:17*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



wrote in message


.. .


On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:21:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


60 degrees at the surface yer round.


Nope I am not sticking a toe in that.
I'm an 80 and over guy, we like 85.


Take a cruise on the Tahoe Queen or the other paddlewheeler. *Nice cruise of
the lake, and stops at Vikingsholm at Emerald Bay.http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=506


We boat there once in a while.


Notnow: *Thanks for the tip, I dunno how much time we will have. *It
is a 10 hr drive from here.


Now I gotta decide, rush camper to completion tonite or go with the
tent. We have heard there are problem bears at Deep Creek. Been
there, done that, proved I can sit in my tent or in my sleeping bag
scared to death while they tear up my stuff next to me. Being older
gives me the right to be a wimp and want to be in a hard sided
camper. Have not put camper onto truck yet and I anticipate some
fitting problems, worth rushing or not for leaving tomorrow morning.

Don White August 12th 09 07:37 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:36 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:21:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent
#4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
60 degrees at the surface yer round.
Nope I am not sticking a toe in that.
I'm an 80 and over guy, we like 85.
Take a cruise on the Tahoe Queen or the other paddlewheeler. Nice
cruise of
the lake, and stops at Vikingsholm at Emerald
Bay.http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=506
We boat there once in a while.
Notnow: Thanks for the tip, I dunno how much time we will have. It
is a 10 hr drive from here.


Now I gotta decide, rush camper to completion tonite or go with the
tent. We have heard there are problem bears at Deep Creek. Been
there, done that, proved I can sit in my tent or in my sleeping bag
scared to death while they tear up my stuff next to me. Being older
gives me the right to be a wimp and want to be in a hard sided
camper. Have not put camper onto truck yet and I anticipate some
fitting problems, worth rushing or not for leaving tomorrow morning.



Be a man. Sleep in the tent. Take some righties here with you, and tie
them to trees to placate and feed the bears. A win-win situation.


Do you think any bear could stand the odour of a Justhate, a DK or any of
the other Dope lifers?
After all, they're used to honey & berries.



H the K August 12th 09 07:41 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:36 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:21:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent
#4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
60 degrees at the surface yer round.
Nope I am not sticking a toe in that.
I'm an 80 and over guy, we like 85.
Take a cruise on the Tahoe Queen or the other paddlewheeler. Nice
cruise of
the lake, and stops at Vikingsholm at Emerald
Bay.http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=506
We boat there once in a while.
Notnow: Thanks for the tip, I dunno how much time we will have. It
is a 10 hr drive from here.
Now I gotta decide, rush camper to completion tonite or go with the
tent. We have heard there are problem bears at Deep Creek. Been
there, done that, proved I can sit in my tent or in my sleeping bag
scared to death while they tear up my stuff next to me. Being older
gives me the right to be a wimp and want to be in a hard sided
camper. Have not put camper onto truck yet and I anticipate some
fitting problems, worth rushing or not for leaving tomorrow morning.


Be a man. Sleep in the tent. Take some righties here with you, and tie
them to trees to placate and feed the bears. A win-win situation.


Do you think any bear could stand the odour of a Justhate, a DK or any of
the other Dope lifers?
After all, they're used to honey & berries.



A quick run through the car wash, followed by a spray-down with
something that smells good...

NotNow[_3_] August 12th 09 07:43 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 1:17 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 21:21:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
60 degrees at the surface yer round.
Nope I am not sticking a toe in that.
I'm an 80 and over guy, we like 85.

Take a cruise on the Tahoe Queen or the other paddlewheeler. Nice cruise of
the lake, and stops at Vikingsholm at Emerald Bay.http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=506

We boat there once in a while.


Notnow: Thanks for the tip, I dunno how much time we will have. It
is a 10 hr drive from here.


My pleasure. It's a nice drive, and not much more time wise than if you
take 25 up from Greenville.

Tim August 13th 09 12:03 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 11, 11:24*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Aug 11, 10:01*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).


My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


I experienced some cold water this evening.


the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.


Both elements went out?

If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.


I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.

D[_11_] August 13th 09 12:56 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
CalifBill wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).

My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


60 degrees at the surface yer round.



Still a damn cold shower!

D[_11_] August 13th 09 01:02 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).

My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


I experienced some cold water this evening.

the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.


I bought one of those tankless water heaters and still have it in the
box. It's tiny and mounts on the wall so I will gain some space in the
garage. My conventional unit is 12 years old and could die any day.
The problem is the wiring. I have to get a nice, non-union, electrician
to run some fat wires about 15 feet to run it. I don't mess with
anything above 120V.

D[_11_] August 13th 09 01:08 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.

Both elements went out?

If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.


I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.


15? Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. My office has one
that size. Does that hold up for two showers? I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.

Tim August 13th 09 01:22 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 7:02*pm, D wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch


wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


I experienced some cold water this evening.


the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.


I bought one of those tankless water heaters and still have it in the
box. *It's tiny and mounts on the wall so I will gain some space in the
garage. *My conventional unit is 12 years old and could die any day.
The problem is the wiring. *I have to get a nice, non-union, electrician
to run some fat wires about 15 feet to run it. *I don't mess with
anything above 120V.


a contributor here in reek.boats and I were talking about those a few
days ago.

His is operated with gas, though.

I'm investigating the on-demand heaters though. sounds better than
cooking water 24/7

Tim August 13th 09 01:25 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 7:08*pm, D wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?


If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.


I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.


15? *Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. *My office has one
that size. *Does that hold up for two showers? *I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.


I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out utensils.

Frogwatch August 13th 09 01:33 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 8:25*pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08*pm, D wrote:



Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?


If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.


I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.


15? *Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. *My office has one
that size. *Does that hold up for two showers? *I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.


I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. *concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out *utensils.


Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. The job now is to get it up onto the truck. The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.

H the K August 13th 09 01:42 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:25 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:



Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.
15? Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. My office has one
that size. Does that hold up for two showers? I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.

I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out utensils.


Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. The job now is to get it up onto the truck. The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.



You don't own any Hebrew slaves?

Frogwatch August 13th 09 04:27 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 8:42*pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:25 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:


Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.
15? *Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. *My office has one
that size. *Does that hold up for two showers? *I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.
I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. *concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out *utensils.


Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. *I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. *The job now is to get it up onto the truck. *The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. *So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. *Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. *Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.


You don't own any Hebrew slaves?


Only hebrews around are married to my sisters and ther'd be hell to
pay if one of em hurt his back.
My 23 yr old daughter looked it over and suggested a way and we made a
little progress getting onto the ramp with just her and I.

Frogwatch August 13th 09 04:32 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 11:27*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:42*pm, H the K wrote:



Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:25 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:


Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. *Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.
15? *Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. *My office has one
that size. *Does that hold up for two showers? *I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.
I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. *concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out *utensils.


Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. *I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. *The job now is to get it up onto the truck. *The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. *So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. *Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. *Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.


You don't own any Hebrew slaves?


Only hebrews around are married to my sisters and ther'd be hell to
pay if one of em hurt his back.
My 23 yr old daughter looked it over and suggested a way and we made a
little progress getting onto the ramp with just her and I.


My two daughters and I got it half way on. Older daughter says "I
feel like I'm using everything i learned in physics class" so I guess
it is a good thing. Am about to die of heat stroke and guzzling
lemonaide.

mgg August 13th 09 04:56 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 8:42 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:25 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:


Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still
about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent
#4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe
is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.
15? Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. My office has one
that size. Does that hold up for two showers? I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.
I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out utensils.


Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. The job now is to get it up onto the truck. The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.


You don't own any Hebrew slaves?


Only hebrews around are married to my sisters and ther'd be hell to
pay if one of em hurt his back.
My 23 yr old daughter looked it over and suggested a way and we made a
little progress getting onto the ramp with just her and I.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I guess hairy is thinkin' that if he has some Hebrew slaves, everyone must!

--Mike



Frogwatch August 13th 09 05:48 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
On Aug 12, 11:56*pm, "mgg" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Aug 12, 8:42 pm, H the K wrote:



Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:25 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:


Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still
about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent
#4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe
is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.
15? Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. My office has one
that size. Does that hold up for two showers? I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.
I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out utensils.


Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. The job now is to get it up onto the truck. The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.


You don't own any Hebrew slaves?


Only hebrews around are married to my sisters and ther'd be hell to
pay if one of em hurt his back.
My 23 yr old daughter looked it over and suggested a way and we made a
little progress getting onto the ramp with just her and I.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I guess hairy is thinkin' that if he has some Hebrew slaves, everyone must!

--Mike


Done. I sprayed the ramp (2 4" X 4" x8' posts with spray grease.
Once my son got home we could easily push it up the ramp onto the
truck. Hmm, 120V electrical does not work but I'll just bring a long
extension cord anyway.

H the K August 13th 09 11:46 AM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 11:56 pm, "mgg" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Aug 12, 8:42 pm, H the K wrote:



Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:25 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still
about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent
#4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe
is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.
15? Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. My office has one
that size. Does that hold up for two showers? I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.
I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out utensils.
Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. The job now is to get it up onto the truck. The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.
You don't own any Hebrew slaves?

Only hebrews around are married to my sisters and ther'd be hell to
pay if one of em hurt his back.
My 23 yr old daughter looked it over and suggested a way and we made a
little progress getting onto the ramp with just her and I.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I guess hairy is thinkin' that if he has some Hebrew slaves, everyone must!

--Mike


Done. I sprayed the ramp (2 4" X 4" x8' posts with spray grease.
Once my son got home we could easily push it up the ramp onto the
truck. Hmm, 120V electrical does not work but I'll just bring a long
extension cord anyway.



See...I knew if you recreated how the Egyptians got those stones up on
the pyramid, you'd succeed.


NotNow[_3_] August 13th 09 01:53 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.

Both elements went out?

If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.


I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.


Oh, good Lord! Build a fire under it!

NotNow[_3_] August 13th 09 02:02 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
D wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.


I experienced some cold water this evening.

the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.


I bought one of those tankless water heaters and still have it in the
box. It's tiny and mounts on the wall so I will gain some space in the
garage. My conventional unit is 12 years old and could die any day. The
problem is the wiring. I have to get a nice, non-union, electrician to
run some fat wires about 15 feet to run it. I don't mess with anything
above 120V.


I've talked to Tim about my system. I've got natural gas. Here is mine:
http://www.valleypower.com/r75lsin.h...hannelid=FROOG

It's expensive, but it really cut my natural gas costs, summer and
winter. This thing gives me hot water in the whole house, and never ever
runs out, even if there's two showers going, the dishwasher, clothes
washer, etc. Of course, Tim wouldn't need this much of a heater for his
application.

NotNow[_3_] August 13th 09 02:04 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:02 pm, D wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.

I bought one of those tankless water heaters and still have it in the
box. It's tiny and mounts on the wall so I will gain some space in the
garage. My conventional unit is 12 years old and could die any day.
The problem is the wiring. I have to get a nice, non-union, electrician
to run some fat wires about 15 feet to run it. I don't mess with
anything above 120V.


a contributor here in reek.boats and I were talking about those a few
days ago.

His is operated with gas, though.

I'm investigating the on-demand heaters though. sounds better than
cooking water 24/7


Yep, that's the thing. You have to keep 40 gallons or so hot all of the
time. It won't be long and mine, I got it for $750, will pay for itself.
I'm saving a couple of hundred just over the mild winters we have here.

NotNow[_3_] August 13th 09 02:05 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent #4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.

15? Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. My office has one
that size. Does that hold up for two showers? I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.


I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out utensils.


Heck, I don't know if you'd see much savings going to something else.
But, I'd look at on demand anyway.

NotNow[_3_] August 13th 09 02:33 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
mgg wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Aug 12, 8:42 pm, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 12, 8:25 pm, Tim wrote:
On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, D wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Aug 11, 10:01 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 19:00:17 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
End of summer with no real trips so we are gonna go up to NC to
Deep
Creek near Boone for some whitewater tubing. Camper is still
about
two weeks from completion so will be using the tent (this is tent
#4
and is almost worn out).
My wife is taking me to California and I hear the water in Tahoe
is
pretty cold. I don't plan on jumping in anyway.
I experienced some cold water this evening.
the water heater in the garage quit last week so until I get a new
heating element, after work showers are a bit nippy.
Both elements went out?
If it is just the top one you can jumper out the top thermostat and
run off the bottom one.
I know, but this is a single element 15 gal. job.
15? Damn, that's small for a house in your climate. My office has one
that size. Does that hold up for two showers? I have a 40 gal and the
water enters it at over 65º all year.
I have a heated garage, that we could actually live in. concerning
the water heater, mine is a simple 120v, that hides neatly under the
counter in the garage. it's all it's used for , for me to take a
shower and clean cook-out utensils.
Slide in camper weighs roughly 900 lbs. I levered it up and slid 2"
rollers made from pvc pipe under it to roll it out of the carport.
This went well. The job now is to get it up onto the truck. The
camper jacks will not go down far enough to allow me to lift it from
the ground with them. So, I tried to use an inclined plane made from
2 4"X4" X8' posts, couldnt get it up onto the ramp well and then could
not get rollers under it.
Plan B. Gonna lever it up bit by bit getting it onto concrete blocks
till it is high enough for the jacks to operate. Of course it is 100
effin degrees out and 99% humid.

You don't own any Hebrew slaves?


Only hebrews around are married to my sisters and ther'd be hell to
pay if one of em hurt his back.
My 23 yr old daughter looked it over and suggested a way and we made a
little progress getting onto the ramp with just her and I.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I guess hairy is thinkin' that if he has some Hebrew slaves, everyone must!

--Mike


Nah, he's just being an asshole so that he'll be noticed.

H the K August 13th 09 05:15 PM

Goin to find some cold water
 
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:22:33 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I bought one of those tankless water heaters and still have it in the
box. It's tiny and mounts on the wall so I will gain some space in the
garage. My conventional unit is 12 years old and could die any day.
The problem is the wiring. I have to get a nice, non-union, electrician
to run some fat wires about 15 feet to run it. I don't mess with
anything above 120V.

a contributor here in reek.boats and I were talking about those a few
days ago.

His is operated with gas, though.

I'm investigating the on-demand heaters though. sounds better than
cooking water 24/7


You need some pretty serious unused electrical capacity to have an on
demand heater capable of supplying a regular house. 100a is not
unreasonable.



I wonder about the "savings" for an average family with kids,
dishwashers, washing machines, et cetera, compared to a good quality gas
hot water heater that costs about half of what the "tankless" models
cost. I read through manufacturers' lit a few years ago, and since we
have fairly typical use here, I couldn't see that a tankless unit made
much sense. Maybe the economics have changed...



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