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A fading Obama screw-up
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO! That is bull... Total. The republicans have sumitted a plan, look it up. Their plan has been rejected outright and the democrats refused to debate it in comittee or even consider it, that is the facts mon... Where is it? Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO! That is bull... Total. The republicans have sumitted a plan, look it up. Their plan has been rejected outright and the democrats refused to debate it in comittee or even consider it, that is the facts mon... Where is it? Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. Ahhh...the Republican throw-away plan. Everyone has already thrown it away, moron. |
A fading Obama screw-up
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO! That is bull... Total. The republicans have sumitted a plan, look it up. Their plan has been rejected outright and the democrats refused to debate it in comittee or even consider it, that is the facts mon... Where is it? Or here... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...e-plan-lets_n_ 205840.html -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
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A fading Obama screw-up
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says... NotNow wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 11, 11:16 am, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t... I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution. The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong and does not even try to find out the real situation. What does that have to do with the facts I posted about the fallacy that most people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort out the screwed up healthcare system? I think we are having a mis-communication here. Many if not most want to "reform" the health care system, the polls are clear there. HOWEVER!!! Most Americans both democrat and republican do not want the reforms Obama is trying to push through, the polls are clear there too... We need Tort reform, free (and fair) enterprise between states for insurance companies. That would be a geat start, you can always add and modify other issues as time goes on but start with those two provisions and see how much difference that makes... What is the #1 problem with health care, not health insurance, in the USA? -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:57:48 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message t... On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:38:36 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: The Congress tried him. Same as a US President. He does not go to a Federal court for illegal stuff committed as the POTUS. Congress impeaches and tries him. Yeah, but it's a different Constitution. I couldn't find anything in it about impeachment. And their Congress tried him *after* the coup, and in CYA. So they call it something else than impeachment. Nothing I can find. They do have an Article 239 which I believe was the given reason for removing Zelaya. It states, they immediately cease the discharge of their duties, but it doesn't state anything about how to remove him. Now, this is a Google translation, which seems less than exact. I'm sure there are laws about how to remove, but I can't find anything in the Constitution. |
A fading Obama screw-up
Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. The above poll is exclusive to the government reformation. But where does it address the plan as currently proposed? People want reform. But the reform needs to be helpful. Oh, so the majority of Americans are for the proposed plan, then it must be helpful. Take a reading comprehension course. Your statement is exactly 180 degrees from what I stated. They want healthcare costs reigned in, but the majority are not enthused with the Obama / House plan as it is now proposed. Cite? |
A fading Obama screw-up
BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Did they bother to ask what form the "health care reform" should take? I didn't think so. Not the point. Several on the right have said that the majority of Americans don't want government to reform health care. That is not true. |
A fading Obama screw-up
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Yes, everyone wants healthcare, but not this plan, period... Every poll that directly addresses "the plan as it is now" is against it, strongly. By a much bigger mandate than the 1-2% "mandate" Obama won... http://www.hcla.org/pdf/HCLA%2006%20...ct%20Sheet.pdf |
A fading Obama screw-up
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO! That is bull... Total. The republicans have sumitted a plan, look it up. Their plan has been rejected outright and the democrats refused to debate it in comittee or even consider it, that is the facts mon... Where is it? Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. Jesus, did you read it? It's exactly what we have now! |
A fading Obama screw-up
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... thunder wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO! I there have been several Republican plans put forth. But as the private citizen who dare to say anything against the obamanation, they were shunted out the door, and never got heard in committee. Loogie has not seen any of that in the news. Indeed, there are several house members (GOP) who have put forward bills and proposals and all of them have been shut out and even censored... Many, many people on both sides have. Putting forth little things here and there doesn't make a comprehensive plan. |
A fading Obama screw-up
BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 11, 11:16 am, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t... I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution. The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong and does not even try to find out the real situation. What does that have to do with the facts I posted about the fallacy that most people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort out the screwed up healthcare system? What is the #1 problem with health care, not health insurance, in the USA? Again, what does this have to do with the fact that it is pure fallacy that "most" people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort out the healthcare debacle? The right is sending out SO much misinformation that it's kind of funny. Last night, ABC news. They interview one of those screaming, yelling, off the wall right wingers at a town hall meeting. Sir, what is your main concern? "I don't want the government telling me I have to give up my private insurance". Sir, does it say that in the bill? "Yes, if you read page 16". Now, he was either coached to say that or he didn't read it. Why? Because what it says is simply that the private insurance companies have five years to comply with new government guidelines about things like not being allowed to drop you because of certain conditions, etc. Now, again, someone is either stupid or not being honest. Which? |
A fading Obama screw-up
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says... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. The above poll is exclusive to the government reformation. But where does it address the plan as currently proposed? People want reform. But the reform needs to be helpful. Oh, so the majority of Americans are for the proposed plan, then it must be helpful. Take a reading comprehension course. Your statement is exactly 180 degrees from what I stated. They want healthcare costs reigned in, but the majority are not enthused with the Obama / House plan as it is now proposed. Cite? Sure, go back and reinsert the second link I posted yesterday from the Huffington Post, didn't you read it, it was pretty clear? -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
In article ,
says... BAR wrote: NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Did they bother to ask what form the "health care reform" should take? I didn't think so. Not the point. Several on the right have said that the majority of Americans don't want government to reform health care. That is not true. Not true, not one of us has said that. What we have said is that the majority of Americans don't want "this proposed" health care. Please go back and read the second link I posted yesterday after you posted the above link from Gallop which did not deal with "this health care" at all, only "health care" in general... I know you get this.. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Yes, everyone wants healthcare, but not this plan, period... Every poll that directly addresses "the plan as it is now" is against it, strongly. By a much bigger mandate than the 1-2% "mandate" Obama won... http://www.hcla.org/pdf/HCLA%2006%20...ct%20Sheet.pdf That is one piece of the pie, again... Why do you keep editing out the link from the Huffington Post I put up yesterday? I deleted my read articles yesterday so I don't have it right here... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO! That is bull... Total. The republicans have sumitted a plan, look it up. Their plan has been rejected outright and the democrats refused to debate it in comittee or even consider it, that is the facts mon... Where is it? Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. Jesus, did you read it? It's exactly what we have now! Jesus? Well, thanks for the compliment, but I am not even close... Assuming you are not talking about the guy down on the corner;) Either way, I gotta' go see dad now.. Later. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... thunder wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people. So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO! I there have been several Republican plans put forth. But as the private citizen who dare to say anything against the obamanation, they were shunted out the door, and never got heard in committee. Loogie has not seen any of that in the news. Indeed, there are several house members (GOP) who have put forward bills and proposals and all of them have been shut out and even censored... Many, many people on both sides have. Putting forth little things here and there doesn't make a comprehensive plan. Yes, and several on the right have put up bills, not just amendments... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:43:57 -0400, JustWait
wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Yes, everyone wants healthcare, but not this plan, period... Every poll that directly addresses "the plan as it is now" is against it, strongly. By a much bigger mandate than the 1-2% "mandate" Obama won... http://www.hcla.org/pdf/HCLA%2006%20...ct%20Sheet.pdf That is one piece of the pie, again... Why do you keep editing out the link from the Huffington Post I put up yesterday? I deleted my read articles yesterday so I don't have it right here... Here it is: Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. -- John H All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking. |
A fading Obama screw-up
In article ,
says... On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:43:57 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Yes, everyone wants healthcare, but not this plan, period... Every poll that directly addresses "the plan as it is now" is against it, strongly. By a much bigger mandate than the 1-2% "mandate" Obama won... http://www.hcla.org/pdf/HCLA%2006%20...ct%20Sheet.pdf That is one piece of the pie, again... Why do you keep editing out the link from the Huffington Post I put up yesterday? I deleted my read articles yesterday so I don't have it right here... Here it is: Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. Thank you. I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. Truth is the repubs are being shut out of the process totally but no news organizations are talking about it, "so it can't be true" snerk -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
JustWait wrote:
Thank you. I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. Truth is the repubs are being shut out of the process totally but no news organizations are talking about it, "so it can't be true" snerk Now this is funny. The GOP's "plan" is totally unacceptable to anyone who knows anything about the problems and all it does is perpetuate what we have now. It's a hell of a plan...that is going nowhere...because it's got no meat or potatoes. |
A fading Obama screw-up
H the K wrote:
JustWait wrote: Thank you. I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. Truth is the repubs are being shut out of the process totally but no news organizations are talking about it, "so it can't be true" snerk Now this is funny. The GOP's "plan" is totally unacceptable to anyone who knows anything about the problems and all it does is perpetuate what we have now. It's a hell of a plan...that is going nowhere...because it's got no meat or potatoes. Nice spin. Devoid of facts. Devoid of thought. Devoid of reason. But, nice spin. |
A fading Obama screw-up
JustWait wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:43:57 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Yes, everyone wants healthcare, but not this plan, period... Every poll that directly addresses "the plan as it is now" is against it, strongly. By a much bigger mandate than the 1-2% "mandate" Obama won... http://www.hcla.org/pdf/HCLA%2006%20...ct%20Sheet.pdf That is one piece of the pie, again... Why do you keep editing out the link from the Huffington Post I put up yesterday? I deleted my read articles yesterday so I don't have it right here... Here it is: Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. Thank you. I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. Truth is the repubs are being shut out of the process totally but no news organizations are talking about it, "so it can't be true" snerk Did you take a look at what the "plan" is? It's basically to not HAVE a plan. |
A fading Obama screw-up
In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:43:57 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... wf3h wrote: On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote: Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and Castro lost. zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some of us, constitutional principles still have meaning. To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras appointed the new president under the Courts supervision. As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to their national health care plan. Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he smoking... Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look: http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the trial lawyers.. Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken, "congress" IS government! Yes, everyone wants healthcare, but not this plan, period... Every poll that directly addresses "the plan as it is now" is against it, strongly. By a much bigger mandate than the 1-2% "mandate" Obama won... http://www.hcla.org/pdf/HCLA%2006%20...ct%20Sheet.pdf That is one piece of the pie, again... Why do you keep editing out the link from the Huffington Post I put up yesterday? I deleted my read articles yesterday so I don't have it right here... Here it is: Right he http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0...lth-care-pl_n_ 205728.html or http://tinyurl.com/o7dp5e I don't make it up as I go along ya' know.. Thank you. I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. Truth is the repubs are being shut out of the process totally but no news organizations are talking about it, "so it can't be true" snerk Did you take a look at what the "plan" is? It's basically to not HAVE a plan. It is a plan, and there are several more weather it meets your criteria or not. They have also submitted dozens of admendments which have all been dumped... I don't think much of the Obama Tax either, but I still admit it "is" a plan. The fact is, I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. No matter how you parse "is"... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
A fading Obama screw-up
JustWait wrote:
It is a plan, and there are several more weather it meets your criteria or not. They have also submitted dozens of admendments which have all been dumped... I don't think much of the Obama Tax either, but I still admit it "is" a plan. The fact is, I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. No matter how you parse "is"... The main element of the GOP plan is a $6000 "tax break" to help a family buy $14000 of health insurance. D'oh. A tax break is only worth something to a family which can afford to spend the money. Such a break would not have much meaning for JustaFreak. |
A fading Obama screw-up
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: Thank you. I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. Truth is the repubs are being shut out of the process totally but no news organizations are talking about it, "so it can't be true" snerk Now this is funny. The GOP's "plan" is totally unacceptable to anyone who knows anything about the problems and all it does is perpetuate what we have now. It's a hell of a plan...that is going nowhere...because it's got no meat or potatoes. Nice spin. Devoid of facts. Devoid of thought. Devoid of reason. But, nice spin. I agree with this post. |
A fading Obama screw-up
D wrote:
BAR wrote: H the K wrote: JustWait wrote: Thank you. I hope we don't have to hear the republicans don't have a plan/party of no.. etc. anymore... It just is not true. Truth is the repubs are being shut out of the process totally but no news organizations are talking about it, "so it can't be true" snerk Now this is funny. The GOP's "plan" is totally unacceptable to anyone who knows anything about the problems and all it does is perpetuate what we have now. It's a hell of a plan...that is going nowhere...because it's got no meat or potatoes. Nice spin. Devoid of facts. Devoid of thought. Devoid of reason. But, nice spin. I agree with this post. Yep, that's all you'll get from Harry. |
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