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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"



This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.



You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30 years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0400, H the K
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wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"


This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.



You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30 years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.


You are right, I don't follow California politics that much. I do know
that this statement was made at the end of his career.


I never heard Willie say that. Jessie Unruh was the first one to say it.
Always like Jessie, but he really screwed California. He was the one who
convinced the voters to go for a full time Legislature. And has been down
hill since.

His quote was:
"If you can't drink a lobbyist's whiskey, take his money, sleep with his
women and still vote against him in the morning, you don't belong in
politics."


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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0400, H the K
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wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"

This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.

You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30 years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.

You are right, I don't follow California politics that much. I do know
that this statement was made at the end of his career.


I never heard Willie say that. Jessie Unruh was the first one to say it.
Always like Jessie, but he really screwed California. He was the one who
convinced the voters to go for a full time Legislature. And has been down
hill since.

His quote was:
"If you can't drink a lobbyist's whiskey, take his money, sleep with his
women and still vote against him in the morning, you don't belong in
politics."




His first name was Jesse, *not* Jessie. Crikey...and you are a Californian.
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"H the K" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"

This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.

You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30 years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking
a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.
You are right, I don't follow California politics that much. I do know
that this statement was made at the end of his career.


I never heard Willie say that. Jessie Unruh was the first one to say it.
Always like Jessie, but he really screwed California. He was the one who
convinced the voters to go for a full time Legislature. And has been
down hill since.

His quote was:
"If you can't drink a lobbyist's whiskey, take his money, sleep with his
women and still vote against him in the morning, you don't belong in
politics."



His first name was Jesse, *not* Jessie. Crikey...and you are a
Californian.


~~ Snerk ~~ that's our Kalif Bill...........




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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0400, H the K
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wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"

This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.

You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30
years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking
a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.
You are right, I don't follow California politics that much. I do know
that this statement was made at the end of his career.

I never heard Willie say that. Jessie Unruh was the first one to say
it. Always like Jessie, but he really screwed California. He was the
one who convinced the voters to go for a full time Legislature. And has
been down hill since.

His quote was:
"If you can't drink a lobbyist's whiskey, take his money, sleep with his
women and still vote against him in the morning, you don't belong in
politics."



His first name was Jesse, *not* Jessie. Crikey...and you are a
Californian.


~~ Snerk ~~ that's our Kalif Bill...........


It is Calif Bill. You can not spell, and I made a typo from memory. You
drunk again? Or did your son drink all the beer?


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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"

This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.

You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30 years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking
a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.
You are right, I don't follow California politics that much. I do know
that this statement was made at the end of his career.


I never heard Willie say that. Jessie Unruh was the first one to say it.
Always like Jessie, but he really screwed California. He was the one who
convinced the voters to go for a full time Legislature. And has been
down hill since.

His quote was:
"If you can't drink a lobbyist's whiskey, take his money, sleep with his
women and still vote against him in the morning, you don't belong in
politics."



His first name was Jesse, *not* Jessie. Crikey...and you are a
Californian.


Actually he was Jesse Marvin. But I had to look up his name to get the
correct spelling. Rest was from memory and a typo to help you avoid the
message. Seems as if that is what you did to check up on the quote.


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Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0400, H the K
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wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"
This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.
You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30 years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking
a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.
You are right, I don't follow California politics that much. I do know
that this statement was made at the end of his career.
I never heard Willie say that. Jessie Unruh was the first one to say it.
Always like Jessie, but he really screwed California. He was the one who
convinced the voters to go for a full time Legislature. And has been
down hill since.

His quote was:
"If you can't drink a lobbyist's whiskey, take his money, sleep with his
women and still vote against him in the morning, you don't belong in
politics."


His first name was Jesse, *not* Jessie. Crikey...and you are a
Californian.


Actually he was Jesse Marvin. But I had to look up his name to get the
correct spelling. Rest was from memory and a typo to help you avoid the
message. Seems as if that is what you did to check up on the quote.




I didn't check the quote. I did notice you could not spell the name of
one of California's most famous and colorful politicians. I rarely check
the quotes or URLs of the Zell Miller-ites. That would be you, eh?
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:31:22 -0400, H the K
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"


This is the Willie Brown (former San Francisco Mayor) doctrine.

He says just because you take their money that is no reason not to
screw them. He had a fairly short political career. Corporate bribers
want politicians that stay bought.



You know, you really truly are not up to speed on things political.

Mayor Brown was in the California state legislature for about 30 years,
and was speaker of that state's assembly for about 15. He served eight
years as mayor of San Francisco. Term limit laws kept him from seeking a
third term.

Brown is a very, very successful politician.


That sure as hell doesn't say much for the intelligence of the
California voter, does it?
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Willie had a very safe district. Same as Boxer. He always had more
campaign money than other pols and used that to buy the speaker of the house
position. Gave money from his funds to other politicians in exchange. He
was also a great crook. Never gave up his SF Law practice, and collected
about a $1,000,000 a year from the practice, that mostly dealt with state
law practice.


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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:39:59 -0400, Gene
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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:08:38 -0400, Another John
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/he..._r=1&th&emc=th

Backroom deals? No!

Let's hear it - "What about Bush and Cheney?"


Bush and Cheney sunk the Republican party with shenanigans like this.
Obama is making the same mistakes and will suffer the same fate. You'd
think he'd be smarter.

The Ox being gored is the American taxpayer.....


That's a fair response.

I'm pleasantly surprised.
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