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On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Towing the Tolman to Cedar Key and back was kinda shocking in terms of
finally getting the mpg while towing; 13 mpg

I wouldn't complain about 13 mpg. I get 7/8 mpg towing the Ranger with
the F-150 and that's dowhill with a tail wind.

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:33:15 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Towing the Tolman to Cedar Key and back was kinda shocking in terms of
finally getting the mpg while towing; 13 mpg

I wouldn't complain about 13 mpg. I get 7/8 mpg towing the Ranger with
the F-150 and that's dowhill with a tail wind.


How's it do towing that Grady? :)

I get about 14 mpg towing my 21' Parker, and my Parker cuts a much
larger hole through the air than that flat-decked Ranger.

Tow speed might have something to do with it. I tow at 55 around here.
That's the speed limit on the main state road. One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.

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Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.

That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.

Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.

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Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.

Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....

I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.

Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....

I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.

I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.

Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....

I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.

I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.

My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

On Aug 4, 11:14*am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.

Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....

I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.

I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.

My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:53:48 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.

That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.

Same in SWFL. Harry could tow at 70+ also if he had his trailer set
up properly and extracted his head from the nether regions of his
copious body.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:53:48 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.

Same in SWFL. Harry could tow at 70+ also if he had his trailer set
up properly and extracted his head from the nether regions of his
copious body.



Uh...my trailer is properly set up. It's a custom trailer and was "set
up" properly from the factory specifically for my Parker *AND* the
Parker dealer, whose mechanics have forgotten more about boat trailers
than you will ever know, tweaked it a bit, too.

I tow at 55-62 mph, max, for a number reasons:

1. The slower tow speed is safer.

2. It burns less gas and is easier on my tow vehicle.

3. I prefer towing at the speeds I tow.


Now, W'hine, why don't you stick your head back up your ass, where it
obviously belongs.

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On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:18:00 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 4, 11:14*am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.

Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....

I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.

I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.

My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

Cruise control does not work for me on the interstate or anywhere
else. It wants to constantly pop in and out of gear - drives me crazy.
I'd rather just shift when I want or let the speed drop going uphill
and pick it back up on the downside. Truckers love it.
--

John H

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Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K
wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love to
fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:01:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:53:48 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.

That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.

Same in SWFL. Harry could tow at 70+ also if he had his trailer set
up properly and extracted his head from the nether regions of his
copious body.

Don't know why anybody thinks they'll get "run over" doing the speed
limit.
I go slower than most traffic all the time. Never got "run over."
Don't even hardly ever get tail-gated.
But I see a lot of tail-gating happening in the string of cars passing
the truck I'm usually behind.
That's a little trick to keep the lemmings away. They see the truck
and change lanes before they even get close to me.
Plenty of steady going semi-trucks doing the limit, mile after mile.
Is that "run over" thinking similar to what has folks racing up to red
lights?

--Vic

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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:13:20 -0400, NotNow wrote:


That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love to
fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

When I was driving Norfolk/Chicago and back in the '60's I'd travel
in a pack. Usually 3-6 cars speeding like hell. We'd change the lead
now and then. Had a '61 Ventura then. Drove all night.
Now I only travel in daylight, settled maybe 50-100 yards behind a
semi, tapping the cruise now and then.
Whole different style, but I actually do more thinking and
strategizing than I did before. Keeps boredom away on those long
stretches without much scenery.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:01:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:53:48 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Same in SWFL. Harry could tow at 70+ also if he had his trailer set
up properly and extracted his head from the nether regions of his
copious body.

Don't know why anybody thinks they'll get "run over" doing the speed
limit.
I go slower than most traffic all the time. Never got "run over."
Don't even hardly ever get tail-gated.
But I see a lot of tail-gating happening in the string of cars passing
the truck I'm usually behind.
That's a little trick to keep the lemmings away. They see the truck
and change lanes before they even get close to me.
Plenty of steady going semi-trucks doing the limit, mile after mile.
Is that "run over" thinking similar to what has folks racing up to red
lights?

--Vic

Drive on I-285 in Atlanta much? They don't call it the Atlanta 500 for
nothing!

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:13:20 -0400, NotNow wrote:

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love to
fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

When I was driving Norfolk/Chicago and back in the '60's I'd travel
in a pack. Usually 3-6 cars speeding like hell. We'd change the lead
now and then. Had a '61 Ventura then. Drove all night.
Now I only travel in daylight, settled maybe 50-100 yards behind a
semi, tapping the cruise now and then.
Whole different style, but I actually do more thinking and
strategizing than I did before. Keeps boredom away on those long
stretches without much scenery.

--Vic
I'm the same way. Growing up in a family of race car drivers and long
haul truckers, I used to run hard. One of my cousins, a truck driver,
taught me the key to making good time when I was a teenager. That is to
not stop. That is what kills your time, is stopping. He had a bladder
like an elephant!

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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:00:31 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:01:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:53:48 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.

That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.

Same in SWFL. Harry could tow at 70+ also if he had his trailer set
up properly and extracted his head from the nether regions of his
copious body.

Once you get the tongue weight right and pitched right my pontoon boat
goes down the road quite well at interstate speeds.
In a boat like this you want the nose lower to increase download and
make it track better. Behind a E/F Ford tow vehicle you barely know it
is there.

I had the opposite happen to me - I raised the hitch by reversing 2"
ball mount from down to up.

Made a world of difference in towing the Ranger trailer. With it mount
pointing down, it was nose heavy - with the ball mount up, the boat
was level and trailered perfectly.

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K

wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC....
otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love to
fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

I love my cruise control, leaves me to concentrate on more important
things like beer and bull****...

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:04:31 -0400, NotNow wrote:



Drive on I-285 in Atlanta much? They don't call it the Atlanta 500 for
nothing!

Blow out the carbon on I-75 though Atlanta every year. That's one
road I let loose a little. Been passed more than once doing 90 there.
Always time going through there between 10AM-2PM.
But that's wide enough to find a more sedate lane if you want.
For some reason I like to mix it up there.
Don't know I-285. Used to take the I-75 bypass (275?), but that adds
too many miles.
One time coming north I mistakenly took the east bypass - took
forever.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:01:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:53:48 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.
Same in SWFL. Harry could tow at 70+ also if he had his trailer set
up properly and extracted his head from the nether regions of his
copious body.

Don't know why anybody thinks they'll get "run over" doing the speed
limit.
I go slower than most traffic all the time. Never got "run over."
Don't even hardly ever get tail-gated.
But I see a lot of tail-gating happening in the string of cars passing
the truck I'm usually behind.
That's a little trick to keep the lemmings away. They see the truck
and change lanes before they even get close to me.
Plenty of steady going semi-trucks doing the limit, mile after mile.
Is that "run over" thinking similar to what has folks racing up to red
lights?

--Vic

I don't get run over but anytime I take out the trailer I can count on
getting passed by some crazy son of a bitch that thinks he is Mario
Andretti cutting me off just so he can feel his power steering...

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K

wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC....
otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a
boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love
to fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

I love my cruise control, leaves me to concentrate on more important
things like beer and bull****...

I just can't do it. I've tried. My new truck has cruise. I only use it
once in awhile to make sure it still works. Speaking of beer, my robust
porter that I brewed awhile back is the bomb!

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:04:31 -0400, NotNow wrote:


Drive on I-285 in Atlanta much? They don't call it the Atlanta 500 for
nothing!

Blow out the carbon on I-75 though Atlanta every year. That's one
road I let loose a little. Been passed more than once doing 90 there.
Always time going through there between 10AM-2PM.
But that's wide enough to find a more sedate lane if you want.
For some reason I like to mix it up there.
Don't know I-285. Used to take the I-75 bypass (275?), but that adds
too many miles.
One time coming north I mistakenly took the east bypass - took
forever.

--Vic
285 goes around the city in a circle. At least it did until the city
grew out past it!

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:54:50 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K

wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC....
otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a
boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love
to fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

I love my cruise control, leaves me to concentrate on more important
things like beer and bull****...

I just can't do it. I've tried. My new truck has cruise. I only use it
once in awhile to make sure it still works. Speaking of beer, my robust
porter that I brewed awhile back is the bomb!

In heavy traffic, cruise control is a real PITA. When the traffic is
light, though, it is a great way to drive. Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.
--

John H

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400, Little John
wrote:

In heavy traffic, cruise control is a real PITA. When the traffic is
light, though, it is a great way to drive. Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.

It's definitely a gas saver. I drove my wife's Honda back from Tampa
the other day and she was amazed at how good our fuel mileage was.
She drives slower than I do but is constantly on and off the gas
pedal.

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400, Little John
wrote:

In heavy traffic, cruise control is a real PITA. When the traffic is
light, though, it is a great way to drive. Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.

It's definitely a gas saver. I drove my wife's Honda back from Tampa
the other day and she was amazed at how good our fuel mileage was.
She drives slower than I do but is constantly on and off the gas
pedal.


Since I tow with a diesel, I get decent mileage. Towing the boat at 65 mph
I get about 13.5 mpg. Towing at 50-55 I get about 15. Running 78 with
cruise control, which I run while towing, I get about 18.5 round trip to Los
Angeles. Speed limit towing in Calif is 55, but other than Wal-mart trucks,
they all run about 63.

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"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:00:31 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:01:57 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:53:48 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:

One of the idiots here
claimed he towed at 70 mph+.

That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC.... otherwise
you'll get run over.

Same in SWFL. Harry could tow at 70+ also if he had his trailer set
up properly and extracted his head from the nether regions of his
copious body.

Once you get the tongue weight right and pitched right my pontoon boat
goes down the road quite well at interstate speeds.
In a boat like this you want the nose lower to increase download and
make it track better. Behind a E/F Ford tow vehicle you barely know it
is there.

I had the opposite happen to me - I raised the hitch by reversing 2"
ball mount from down to up.

Made a world of difference in towing the Ranger trailer. With it mount
pointing down, it was nose heavy - with the ball mount up, the boat
was level and trailered perfectly.

Sounds like it was nose light with the ball low. It was trying to lift up
the truck, instead of adding some weight.

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K

wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC....
otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a
boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of
times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love
to fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

I love my cruise control, leaves me to concentrate on more important
things like beer and bull****...

I just can't do it. I've tried. My new truck has cruise. I only use it
once in awhile to make sure it still works. Speaking of beer, my robust
porter that I brewed awhile back is the bomb!

ROBUST!?? A Porter isn't "robust" enough? ;)

Frontier MPG towing the Tolman
 

Little John wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:54:50 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K

wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC....
otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow a
boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.
This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.
That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love
to fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!
I love my cruise control, leaves me to concentrate on more important
things like beer and bull****...
I just can't do it. I've tried. My new truck has cruise. I only use it
once in awhile to make sure it still works. Speaking of beer, my robust
porter that I brewed awhile back is the bomb!

In heavy traffic, cruise control is a real PITA. When the traffic is
light, though, it is a great way to drive. Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.
--

John H


Exactly

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400, Little John
wrote:

In heavy traffic, cruise control is a real PITA. When the traffic is
light, though, it is a great way to drive. Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.
It's definitely a gas saver. I drove my wife's Honda back from Tampa
the other day and she was amazed at how good our fuel mileage was.
She drives slower than I do but is constantly on and off the gas
pedal.


Since I tow with a diesel, I get decent mileage. Towing the boat at 65 mph
I get about 13.5 mpg. Towing at 50-55 I get about 15. Running 78 with
cruise control, which I run while towing, I get about 18.5 round trip to Los
Angeles. Speed limit towing in Calif is 55, but other than Wal-mart trucks,
they all run about 63.



Pfffttt. I just came back from a trip to get parts for the team. 84 to
Hartford is at least 75, down South of Hartford to route 9 is about 80
down and back, down 9 to the shore is about 75 till you get nearer the
end and you have to time it so you are traveling to the shore with "the
money", they don't want to ticket them as they go to spend, spend,
spend. Most of these figures are heavier times of the day and represent
the middle and left lane and sometimes the slow lane too... I was not
hauling the trailer today though...

Later, gotta' go...

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Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K

wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC....
otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow
a boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of
times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love
to fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

I love my cruise control, leaves me to concentrate on more important
things like beer and bull****...

I just can't do it. I've tried. My new truck has cruise. I only use it
once in awhile to make sure it still works. Speaking of beer, my
robust porter that I brewed awhile back is the bomb!

ROBUST!?? A Porter isn't "robust" enough? ;)

Yep, dry hopped!

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Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 4, 11:14 am, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:



NotNow wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:58:44 -0400, H the K

wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:13:51 -0400, H K
wrote:
One of the idiots here claimed he towed at 70 mph+.
That is almost expected on I-40 west of Wilmington, NC....
otherwise
you'll get run over.
Then I suppose I'd be a traffic hazard, since I would not tow
a boat
that fast.
Now you know why, except for my son's G3.... I don't tow.....
I go the speed limit usually. But then, I've hauled much larger and
heavier things than my bass boat.
I found myself moving along pretty good this weekend a couple of
times
coming home from Maine... My liberty gets **** for mileage.
My new Dodge truck doesn't do too bad, but could be better especially
when towing. It's got the tow package, so the rear end is geared a
little lower and that doesn't help unless you are going slow.

This was not on the interstae but on US27 passing thru places every 10
minutes where I'd have to slow to 35. I expect on the Interstate with
cruise control at 60 mph, I would do better.

That's one thing I never, ever been able to get used to, is cruise
control. *I* need to be in control, for whatever reason. I also love
to fly, and always wondered that if I was ever to fly a plane with
autopilot how I'd handle that!!!!

I love my cruise control, leaves me to concentrate on more important
things like beer and bull****...

I just can't do it. I've tried. My new truck has cruise. I only use it
once in awhile to make sure it still works. Speaking of beer, my
robust porter that I brewed awhile back is the bomb!

ROBUST!?? A Porter isn't "robust" enough? ;)

And actually, porters can go from malty, to hoppy and everything in between!

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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.
--
No cop will stop you for 74 in a 70 but many will write you for 77.
Told the wife that continously for an hour before the first cop to
come along pulled her over.

Casady

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Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.
--
No cop will stop you for 74 in a 70 but many will write you for 77.
Told the wife that continously for an hour before the first cop to
come along pulled her over.

Casady

Here in Georgia, it's known that the newer laws say that you must be 10
over to get a ticket. They did that so that there wouldn't be any speed
traps set up by little town cops. SO, everyone knows, everyone drives 10
over!

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In article ,
says...

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.
--
No cop will stop you for 74 in a 70 but many will write you for 77.
Told the wife that continously for an hour before the first cop to
come along pulled her over.

Casady

Around here they don't bother unless you are over 10 miles over the
limit. It's an unwritten agreement.. The news has even reported on it.
Start getting above that, they will pull you over, but sometimes not
depending on circumstances... I generally drive pretty passively but
sometimes take off a bit. Now, try running your boat a mile over the
limit, on the CT River and then you will see strict, just ask Wayne
grin... I think it was Wayne.

--
Wafa free since 2009

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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:39:01 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Cruise control does not work for me on the interstate or anywhere
else. It wants to constantly pop in and out of gear - drives me crazy.
I'd rather just shift when I want or let the speed drop going uphill
and pick it back up on the downside. Truckers love it.
--

Our truck, a Navigator, has a button on the end of the shifter lever.
It locks out the top gear, so the box doeesn't hunt for gears.

Casady

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On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 15:35:10 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:43:36 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Tends to reduce tickets and
save gas. I set it for 10% over the limit and just relax.
--
No cop will stop you for 74 in a 70 but many will write you for 77.
Told the wife that continously for an hour before the first cop to
come along pulled her over.

Casady

I've just been lucky all my life. Usually, 10% over the limit keeps me
in the slow lane around here.
--

John H

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On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:09:56 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:39:01 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Cruise control does not work for me on the interstate or anywhere
else. It wants to constantly pop in and out of gear - drives me crazy.
I'd rather just shift when I want or let the speed drop going uphill
and pick it back up on the downside. Truckers love it.
--

Our truck, a Navigator, has a button on the end of the shifter lever.
It locks out the top gear, so the box doeesn't hunt for gears.

Casady

I could just drive in 4th, which would lock out overdrive, but don't
do it unless I'm towing in a pretty hilly situration.
--

John H

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On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:44:28 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Our truck, a Navigator, has a button on the end of the shifter lever.
It locks out the top gear, so the box doeesn't hunt for gears.

Casady

I could just drive in 4th, which would lock out overdrive, but don't
do it unless I'm towing in a pretty hilly situration.


It's better for the transmission to lock out overdrive anytime you are
towing.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:44:28 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Our truck, a Navigator, has a button on the end of the shifter lever.
It locks out the top gear, so the box doeesn't hunt for gears.

Casady
I could just drive in 4th, which would lock out overdrive, but don't
do it unless I'm towing in a pretty hilly situration.


It's better for the transmission to lock out overdrive anytime you are
towing.



I always lock out the OD on my 4Runner while towing, and drive in 4th.
If there is a hill, I usually will manually downshift the auto
transmission to third to avoid lugging.

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 12:07:42 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

Now, try running your boat a mile over the
limit, on the CT River and then you will see strict, just ask Wayne
grin... I think it was Wayne.

We've never been stopped for speeding on the CT River but have seen a
number of other people get nailed, especially in that stretch between
the railroad bridge and the highway bridge. The water cops have a
very innocent looking older cuddy cabin runabout that they hide out
in. We once had a DNR boat shadow us for about 10 miles further up
river in the Middletown area but we were being *very* careful.

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On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:53:38 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:44:28 -0400, Little John
wrote:

Our truck, a Navigator, has a button on the end of the shifter lever.
It locks out the top gear, so the box doeesn't hunt for gears.

Casady

I could just drive in 4th, which would lock out overdrive, but don't
do it unless I'm towing in a pretty hilly situration.


It's better for the transmission to lock out overdrive anytime you are
towing.

Anytime I'm in a situation where I can't accelerate, I'll drop it into
4th. On the flats, or long downhills, I'll put it in 5th.
--

John H