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Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Finally you get it.. Now I can go back to work You still cleaning out stables, or were you fired from that job, too? |
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Little John wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:04:40 -0400, NotNow wrote: Drifting John wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:17:09 -0400, NotNow wrote: Drifting John wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:07:40 -0400, "it's me, Jim" "j i wrote: Drifting John wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:26:47 -0400, NotNow wrote: Drifting John wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:34:04 -0400, NotNow wrote: John Again wrote: On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:45:33 -0400, NotNow wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: NotNow wrote: BAR wrote: Vic Smith wrote: Ran across this after seeing an article in boattest about a guy with a Nordhavn doing the trip Atlantic to Pacific. http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...y/1620336.html Weird when you consider the travails of Franklin and Amundsen. If the passage gets going good it could affect Panama Canal revenues. You could see the Chinese jump on the Global Warming band wagon at that point. I wonder how the passage is getting "increasingly ice free" when the republican politicians are forcing everyone in their party to be darned near militant in telling everyone that global warming just isn't happening despite all of the data proving otherwise? Where is the peer reviewed data. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html http://wdc.cricyt.edu.ar/paleo/globalwarming/end.html Which states in part: When one reviews all the data, both from thermometers and paleotemperature proxies, it becomes clear that the Earth has warmed significantly over the last 140 years; Global Warming is a reality. Multiple paleoclimatic studies indicate that recent years, the 1990s, and the 20th century are all the warmest, on a global basis, of the last 600, and most likely 1200 years. It appears that the global warming of the last century is unprecedented in the last 1,200 years. The peer review does not address man causes for global warming. Earth has heated and cooled for it whole life. What did man do to cause the last Ice Age about 15,000 years ago? The mini ice age 500 years ago? And the warming afterwards? It does not matter what has happened and how it happened in the past. We are talking about the CURRENT situation. That's why the right's insistence that it isn't man made is non-think. Now the past does not matter in global warming and history does not enter into science. I am not sure I want you engineering a building for me. You would ignore codes, etc as they are based on history. Uh, no not really. Codes are based on known strengths, stresses, strains, etc. And you use the CURRENT code. Using your analogy, you'd want me to design by a standard that was a few million years old. Nope, what I said if history did not matter. You would be designing to codes at are as first written. They would not be changed because of history. Exactly the opposite of what you stated. The problem here is simple. *I* was talking about a specific problem, not problems in general. As far as the topic I was discussing, history does not matter. Why? Simple. Because the cataclysmic events that shaped the climate at a given point in time doesn't matter anymore. What does a history that involves things like super volcanoes, giant meteors hitting earth, etc. have to do with man made pollution and it's affects on climate that is occuring right now? If history doesn't matter, why look back 140 years? WHOOSH! Or, why use Bush as an excuse for everything Obama does? -- The same reason why Clinton is an excuse for everything Bush does! Bush doesn't do. Obama does. Using Bush as the justification for Obama's actions doesn't say much for Obama, does it? -- John H As usual. Anything liberal = lying, blaming, nothing good everything bad Anything conservative = complete honesty, never blaming, everything wonderful. From where came that? My comment had to do with the use of Bush as a rationale for Obama's behavior. -- John H It's impossible to rationalize Oh-Bah-Mah's behavior. True. But the liberal fall back is to compare to Bush. Can't figure out why they don't just discuss his behavior as is. Embarrassed? -- John H And the conservative fallback is to blame it on Clinton. Conservative fallback to what? Bush isn't in office, so it's for sure no one is trying to defend him. Besides, is that rationale supposed to explain Obama's behavior? -- John H The only person who can explain Obama's behavior is Obama. Now that's the damn truth! -- John H It's that way with anybody. |
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"it's me, Jim" "j i wrote in message ... Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote: NotNow wrote: Drifting John wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:34:04 -0400, NotNow wrote: John Again wrote: On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:45:33 -0400, NotNow wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: NotNow wrote: BAR wrote: Vic Smith wrote: Ran across this after seeing an article in boattest about a guy with a Nordhavn doing the trip Atlantic to Pacific. http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...y/1620336.html Weird when you consider the travails of Franklin and Amundsen. If the passage gets going good it could affect Panama Canal revenues. You could see the Chinese jump on the Global Warming band wagon at that point. I wonder how the passage is getting "increasingly ice free" when the republican politicians are forcing everyone in their party to be darned near militant in telling everyone that global warming just isn't happening despite all of the data proving otherwise? Where is the peer reviewed data. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html http://wdc.cricyt.edu.ar/paleo/globalwarming/end.html Which states in part: When one reviews all the data, both from thermometers and paleotemperature proxies, it becomes clear that the Earth has warmed significantly over the last 140 years; Global Warming is a reality. Multiple paleoclimatic studies indicate that recent years, the 1990s, and the 20th century are all the warmest, on a global basis, of the last 600, and most likely 1200 years. It appears that the global warming of the last century is unprecedented in the last 1,200 years. The peer review does not address man causes for global warming. Earth has heated and cooled for it whole life. What did man do to cause the last Ice Age about 15,000 years ago? The mini ice age 500 years ago? And the warming afterwards? It does not matter what has happened and how it happened in the past. We are talking about the CURRENT situation. That's why the right's insistence that it isn't man made is non-think. Now the past does not matter in global warming and history does not enter into science. I am not sure I want you engineering a building for me. You would ignore codes, etc as they are based on history. Uh, no not really. Codes are based on known strengths, stresses, strains, etc. And you use the CURRENT code. Using your analogy, you'd want me to design by a standard that was a few million years old. Nope, what I said if history did not matter. You would be designing to codes at are as first written. They would not be changed because of history. Exactly the opposite of what you stated. The problem here is simple. *I* was talking about a specific problem, not problems in general. As far as the topic I was discussing, history does not matter. Why? Simple. Because the cataclysmic events that shaped the climate at a given point in time doesn't matter anymore. What does a history that involves things like super volcanoes, giant meteors hitting earth, etc. have to do with man made pollution and it's affects on climate that is occuring right now? If history doesn't matter, why look back 140 years? WHOOSH! Or, why use Bush as an excuse for everything Obama does? -- The same reason why Clinton is an excuse for everything Bush does! Bush doesn't do. Obama does. Using Bush as the justification for Obama's actions doesn't say much for Obama, does it? -- John H As usual. Anything liberal = lying, blaming, nothing good everything bad Anything conservative = complete honesty, never blaming, everything wonderful. Finally you get it.. Now I can go back to work Back to work? A liberal socialist wouldn't be caught dead uttering those words. Not to worry. The 'Freaks' definition of work is cluttering up his wifes kitchen table with worn out kiddycycle parts. |
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Don White wrote:
Not to worry. The 'Freaks' definition of work is cluttering up his wifes kitchen table with worn out kiddycycle parts. Speaking of motorcycles, did you happen to catch any of the rebroadcasts of the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy races? What a great race course, 30+ miles I think, around that island in the Irish Sea...twistys, hills, airborne motorcycles, speeds *averaging* 125-130 mph in some classes, sidecar motorcycle races...and vistas where you can actually see the bikes roar by a few feet away, plus many of the bikes had miniature video cameras mounted *and* there were helicopter cameras, too. The races were exciting, and the coverage was terrific. These sorts of open road races have always been my favorites, cars or motorcycles. |
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it's me, Jim wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote: NotNow wrote: Drifting John wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:34:04 -0400, NotNow wrote: John Again wrote: On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 11:45:33 -0400, NotNow wrote: Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: "NotNow" wrote in message ... BAR wrote: NotNow wrote: BAR wrote: Vic Smith wrote: Ran across this after seeing an article in boattest about a guy with a Nordhavn doing the trip Atlantic to Pacific. http://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/...y/1620336.html Weird when you consider the travails of Franklin and Amundsen. If the passage gets going good it could affect Panama Canal revenues. You could see the Chinese jump on the Global Warming band wagon at that point. I wonder how the passage is getting "increasingly ice free" when the republican politicians are forcing everyone in their party to be darned near militant in telling everyone that global warming just isn't happening despite all of the data proving otherwise? Where is the peer reviewed data. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html http://wdc.cricyt.edu.ar/paleo/globalwarming/end.html Which states in part: When one reviews all the data, both from thermometers and paleotemperature proxies, it becomes clear that the Earth has warmed significantly over the last 140 years; Global Warming is a reality. Multiple paleoclimatic studies indicate that recent years, the 1990s, and the 20th century are all the warmest, on a global basis, of the last 600, and most likely 1200 years. It appears that the global warming of the last century is unprecedented in the last 1,200 years. The peer review does not address man causes for global warming. Earth has heated and cooled for it whole life. What did man do to cause the last Ice Age about 15,000 years ago? The mini ice age 500 years ago? And the warming afterwards? It does not matter what has happened and how it happened in the past. We are talking about the CURRENT situation. That's why the right's insistence that it isn't man made is non-think. Now the past does not matter in global warming and history does not enter into science. I am not sure I want you engineering a building for me. You would ignore codes, etc as they are based on history. Uh, no not really. Codes are based on known strengths, stresses, strains, etc. And you use the CURRENT code. Using your analogy, you'd want me to design by a standard that was a few million years old. Nope, what I said if history did not matter. You would be designing to codes at are as first written. They would not be changed because of history. Exactly the opposite of what you stated. The problem here is simple. *I* was talking about a specific problem, not problems in general. As far as the topic I was discussing, history does not matter. Why? Simple. Because the cataclysmic events that shaped the climate at a given point in time doesn't matter anymore. What does a history that involves things like super volcanoes, giant meteors hitting earth, etc. have to do with man made pollution and it's affects on climate that is occuring right now? If history doesn't matter, why look back 140 years? WHOOSH! Or, why use Bush as an excuse for everything Obama does? -- The same reason why Clinton is an excuse for everything Bush does! Bush doesn't do. Obama does. Using Bush as the justification for Obama's actions doesn't say much for Obama, does it? -- John H As usual. Anything liberal = lying, blaming, nothing good everything bad Anything conservative = complete honesty, never blaming, everything wonderful. Finally you get it.. Now I can go back to work Back to work? A liberal socialist wouldn't be caught dead uttering those words. I'm fairly liberal and have worked my ass off all of my life. |
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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:46:40 -0400, H the K wrote:
The races were exciting, and the coverage was terrific. These sorts of open road races have always been my favorites, cars or motorcycles. And they are extremely dangerous. There's been a couple of hundred racers killed on the Isle of Man races alone. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: Not to worry. The 'Freaks' definition of work is cluttering up his wifes kitchen table with worn out kiddycycle parts. Speaking of motorcycles, did you happen to catch any of the rebroadcasts of the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy races? What a great race course, 30+ miles I think, around that island in the Irish Sea...twistys, hills, airborne motorcycles, speeds *averaging* 125-130 mph in some classes, sidecar motorcycle races...and vistas where you can actually see the bikes roar by a few feet away, plus many of the bikes had miniature video cameras mounted *and* there were helicopter cameras, too. The races were exciting, and the coverage was terrific. These sorts of open road races have always been my favorites, cars or motorcycles. Didn't see that race. Usually they are presented on one of the many cable stations and I only come across them by accident. What I'm always amazed about is the lack of real boating shows...(not fishing shows, which are a dime a dozen) |
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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:46:40 -0400, H the K wrote: The races were exciting, and the coverage was terrific. These sorts of open road races have always been my favorites, cars or motorcycles. And they are extremely dangerous. There's been a couple of hundred racers killed on the Isle of Man races alone. I saw two "solo" wipe-outs while I was watching. One of the commentators said that in both cases, a set of custom leathers and pads made by an Italian factory whose name I cannot recall kept the riders from sustaining serious injuries. They both got right up and walked off the track. But, surely, there are few blood sports more dangerous than high speed open road motorcycle racing. |
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Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: Not to worry. The 'Freaks' definition of work is cluttering up his wifes kitchen table with worn out kiddycycle parts. Speaking of motorcycles, did you happen to catch any of the rebroadcasts of the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy races? What a great race course, 30+ miles I think, around that island in the Irish Sea...twistys, hills, airborne motorcycles, speeds *averaging* 125-130 mph in some classes, sidecar motorcycle races...and vistas where you can actually see the bikes roar by a few feet away, plus many of the bikes had miniature video cameras mounted *and* there were helicopter cameras, too. The races were exciting, and the coverage was terrific. These sorts of open road races have always been my favorites, cars or motorcycles. Didn't see that race. Usually they are presented on one of the many cable stations and I only come across them by accident. What I'm always amazed about is the lack of real boating shows...(not fishing shows, which are a dime a dozen) We have an embarrassment of riches in boat shows down here...the big Annapolis shows, the DC show, there's a pretty big show out by Dulles Airport, and at least a have dozen other mostly boating shows in the general area. Once you've been to the Annapolis shows, though, the other area shows look...small. The best boat shows I've seen in recent years, though, have been the Miami "International" shows. Mind-boggling in size...both on land and in the water. Lots of demo rides, too. Best time of year, typically, to be in south Florida, usually February, when your northern clime is a bit...chilly. |
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"H the K" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Don White wrote: Not to worry. The 'Freaks' definition of work is cluttering up his wifes kitchen table with worn out kiddycycle parts. Speaking of motorcycles, did you happen to catch any of the rebroadcasts of the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy races? What a great race course, 30+ miles I think, around that island in the Irish Sea...twistys, hills, airborne motorcycles, speeds *averaging* 125-130 mph in some classes, sidecar motorcycle races...and vistas where you can actually see the bikes roar by a few feet away, plus many of the bikes had miniature video cameras mounted *and* there were helicopter cameras, too. The races were exciting, and the coverage was terrific. These sorts of open road races have always been my favorites, cars or motorcycles. Didn't see that race. Usually they are presented on one of the many cable stations and I only come across them by accident. What I'm always amazed about is the lack of real boating shows...(not fishing shows, which are a dime a dozen) We have an embarrassment of riches in boat shows down here...the big Annapolis shows, the DC show, there's a pretty big show out by Dulles Airport, and at least a have dozen other mostly boating shows in the general area. Once you've been to the Annapolis shows, though, the other area shows look...small. The best boat shows I've seen in recent years, though, have been the Miami "International" shows. Mind-boggling in size...both on land and in the water. Lots of demo rides, too. Best time of year, typically, to be in south Florida, usually February, when your northern clime is a bit...chilly. One of my Air Force cousins is being transfered to an American base near the Lockheed Martin plant in Georgia for approx 3 years. He'll be working on the procurement of about 17 new Hercules transport aircraft http://www.lockheedmartin.com/products/c130/index.html I was teasing him about spending some time with him over our colder months. I'd probably have to stand in line...he has two brothers, four sisters and about a zillion cousins. |
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