Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436


"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for example.
The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002 to run "programs
for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff
diversity, and minority contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary
from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S.
senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure
had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way
to network, Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital
says her position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did
was vital enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one explanation:
Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002 to
run "programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer
recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting." In 2005 the
hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what
her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just
become a U.S. senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million earmark for
the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that
Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will remain
unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be
worth $317,000? We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's
wife wasn't interested."



Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President, but
still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for their
work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in starting,
should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long as
you are a Republican, that is.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002 to
run "programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach,
volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting." In
2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly
twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that
he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million
earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle!
But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position
will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital
enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one explanation:
Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."



Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President, but
still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for their
work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in starting,
should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long as
you are a Republican, that is.


Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for the
same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002
to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach,
volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting." In
2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly
twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention
that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure had. Requested a $1
million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network,
Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her
position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did
was vital enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one
explanation: Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."



Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President, but
still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long as
you are a Republican, that is.


Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for the
same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...

That wasn't a "no bid" contract.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

"Lu Powell" wrote in message
...
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436


"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002 to run
"programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer
recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting." In 2005 the
hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what
her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just
become a U.S. senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the
UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that Mrs.
Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled.
How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth
$317,000? We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's wife
wasn't interested."

You don't think the Obama's were in it for the charity? Do you?

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

"Jim" wrote in message
m...
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436
"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002 to
run "programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer
recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting." In 2005 the
hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what
her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just
become a U.S. senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million earmark for
the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that
Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will remain
unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be
worth $317,000? We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's
wife wasn't interested."



Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President, but
still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for their
work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in starting,
should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long as you
are a Republican, that is.

I would have said "well connected to the right people" as Obama is fueling
the fire and he a talk a lot appoligise later democrat. Unless of course
you think BO (Bailout Obama) is doing the republican's bidding?

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002
to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach,
volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting." In
2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly
twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention
that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure had. Requested a $1
million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to network,
Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her
position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did
was vital enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one
explanation: Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President, but
still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long as
you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for the
same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.

Who bid against them?

Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done exactly
the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we are
already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution with new
rules against criticism in the senate and senators political speech,
next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long ago. We are
in huge trouble..

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in
2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000
to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator.
Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure
had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in
fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has
resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How
can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth
$317,000? We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's
wife wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President,
but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock
until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long
as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.

Who bid against them?

Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done exactly
the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we are
already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution with new
rules against criticism in the senate and senators political speech,
next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long ago. We are
in huge trouble..

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:32:48 -0400, NotNow penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
| wrote:
| On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:
|
| Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
| Jim wrote:
| Lu Powell wrote:
| From the website of Free Library, at
| http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436
|
|
|
| "Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
| example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in
| 2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
| outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
| contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000
| to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator.
| Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure
| had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in
| fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has
| resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How
| can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth
| $317,000? We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's
| wife wasn't interested."
|
|
| Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President,
| but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock
| until 2006.
|
| Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
| their work in the Iraq war.
|
| Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
| starting, should **** you off.
|
| But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.
|
| War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long
| as you are a Republican, that is.
|
| Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
| the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
| That wasn't a "no bid" contract.
|
| Who bid against them?
|
| Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
| manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
| criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done exactly
| the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...
|
| This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we are
| already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution with new
| rules against criticism in the senate and senators political speech,
| next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long ago. We are
| in huge trouble..
|
|Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
|Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
|except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!

Oh, god.... at least one other person gets it!!!!

Amen, brother!

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

On Jul 28, 8:34*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:32:48 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
*From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...+irreplaceable...

"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in
2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000
to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator..
Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure
had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in
fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has
resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How
can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth
$317,000? We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's
wife wasn't interested."

Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President,
but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock
until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. *Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. *As long
as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.

Who bid against them?

Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done exactly
the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we are
already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution with new
rules against criticism in the senate and senators political speech,
next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long ago. We are
in huge trouble..

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!

Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with Dubai
too.

And China... can you say "How much to sleep in the Rincoln bedroom?"

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama,
for example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her
in 2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from
$120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a
U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S.
senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC
Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that
Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will
remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital
enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one
explanation: Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President,
but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock
until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long
as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.

Who bid against them?

Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done
exactly the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we are
already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution with
new rules against criticism in the senate and senators political
speech, next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long
ago. We are in huge trouble..

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!

There have been more investigations done on this subject than any other
since Pelosi took over and not once did anything criminal or out of
order really show up. It's just a farce perpetrated by the MSM and the
DNC... Something like 240 something investigations, all of them wasted
money...

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:32:48 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for
example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in
2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000
to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S. senator.
Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure
had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in
fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has
resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How
can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth
$317,000? We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's
wife wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice President,
but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and held stock
until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As long
as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.
Who bid against them?
Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done exactly
the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we are
already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution with new
rules against criticism in the senate and senators political speech,
next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long ago. We are
in huge trouble..
Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!


Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with Dubai
too. I see little difference between the Bushes and the Clintons.

Shhhhhhh... You are not supposed to mention that!

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

NotNow wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!
Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with Dubai
too.
And China... can you say "How much to sleep in the Rincoln bedroom?"

It is no accident that WalMart doubled it's market share in the 90s.
They are from Bentonville Arkansas, a suburb of Little Rock.

Aren't republicans FOR free trade? Or is that with certain qualifiers?

I guess about as much as all democrats are for socialism...

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama,
for example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her
in 2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from
$120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a
U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S.
senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC
Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that
Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will
remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital
enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one
explanation: Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice
President, but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and
held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As
long as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.

Who bid against them?

Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done
exactly the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we
are already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution
with new rules against criticism in the senate and senators political
speech, next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long
ago. We are in huge trouble..

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!

There have been more investigations done on this subject than any other
since Pelosi took over and not once did anything criminal or out of
order really show up. It's just a farce perpetrated by the MSM and the
DNC... Something like 240 something investigations, all of them wasted
money...

That's simply not true!

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:32:48 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama,
for example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her
in 2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from
$120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a
U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S.
senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC
Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that
Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will
remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital
enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one
explanation: Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice
President, but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and
held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts
for their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As
long as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.
Who bid against them?
Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they
are criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done
exactly the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we
are already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution
with new rules against criticism in the senate and senators
political speech, next it will be the rest of the media, just like I
said long ago. We are in huge trouble..
Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!


Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with Dubai
too. I see little difference between the Bushes and the Clintons.

Shhhhhhh... You are not supposed to mention that!

Using your previous analogy, how many criminal charges were filed?

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!
Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with Dubai
too.
And China... can you say "How much to sleep in the Rincoln bedroom?"

It is no accident that WalMart doubled it's market share in the 90s.
They are from Bentonville Arkansas, a suburb of Little Rock.

Aren't republicans FOR free trade? Or is that with certain qualifiers?

I guess about as much as all democrats are for socialism...

Oh, so your NOT for free trade?

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama,
for example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her
in 2002 to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood
outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority
contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from
$120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a
U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S.
senator? He sure had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC
Medical Center, in fact. Way to network, Michelle! But now that
Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will
remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital
enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one
explanation: Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice
President, but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and
held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts for
their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As
long as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too, for
the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.

Who bid against them?

Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they are
criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have done
exactly the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we
are already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution
with new rules against criticism in the senate and senators political
speech, next it will be the rest of the media, just like I said long
ago. We are in huge trouble..

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!

There have been more investigations done on this subject than any other
since Pelosi took over and not once did anything criminal or out of
order really show up. It's just a farce perpetrated by the MSM and the
DNC... Something like 240 something investigations, all of them wasted
money...



You really are a delusional moron.





--
Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws,
and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them,
*unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If
that is your position in life, then anything goes.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:26:45 -0400, Lu Powell penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|From the website of Free Library, at
|http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436
|
|
|"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama, for example.
|The University of Chicago Medical Center hired her in 2002 to run "programs
|for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff
|diversity, and minority contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary
|from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what her husband made as a U.S.
|senator. Oh, did we mention that he had just become a U.S. senator? He sure
|had. Requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way
|to network, Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the hospital
|says her position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did
|was vital enough to be worth $317,000? We can think of only one explanation:
|Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested."
|

I can only assume it is just another example of hospitals overcharging
patients so they will have huge quantities of cash to squander in
foolish ways......



$300,000 isn't a lot in a major city for someone working as a "rainmaker."

Lu lives in a part of Florida that until recently paid teachers with
master's degrees $28,000 a year, and where a very special bit of
corruption between the local cops and infrastructure contractors has
"off duty" cops snoozing in the local government's patrol cars at the
sites "protecting" highway construction sites.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:



$317,000.00 is a LOT of money... everywhere... and if was for a job
that didn't need to exist... it was pretty clear that it was akin to
payola.

Those "in the know" and those working in much of the corporate world
don't think $317k is a lot of money.
They just figure it's what they deserve, since their pals have similar
salaries.
Everybody has their own reality.

--Vic

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


$317,000.00 is a LOT of money... everywhere... and if was for a job
that didn't need to exist... it was pretty clear that it was akin to
payola.

Those "in the know" and those working in much of the corporate world
don't think $317k is a lot of money.
They just figure it's what they deserve, since their pals have similar
salaries.
Everybody has their own reality.

--Vic

It's *not* a lot of money for a high-powered, well-connected lawyer in a
big city.


--
Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws,
and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them,
*unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If
that is your position in life, then anything goes.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:37:05 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


$317,000.00 is a LOT of money... everywhere... and if was for a job
that didn't need to exist... it was pretty clear that it was akin to
payola.

Those "in the know" and those working in much of the corporate world
don't think $317k is a lot of money.
They just figure it's what they deserve, since their pals have similar
salaries.
Everybody has their own reality.

--Vic

It's *not* a lot of money for a high-powered, well-connected lawyer in a
big city.

What's your point? I just said that.

--Vic

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


$317,000.00 is a LOT of money... everywhere... and if was for a job
that didn't need to exist... it was pretty clear that it was akin to
payola.

Those "in the know" and those working in much of the corporate world
don't think $317k is a lot of money.
They just figure it's what they deserve, since their pals have similar
salaries.
Everybody has their own reality.

--Vic

It's *not* a lot of money for a high-powered, well-connected lawyer in a
big city.



Yes, for a top flight lawyer doing lawyer jobs. Not for an not needed
position at a hospital, where you get a 100% raise when your spouse becomes
a State Senator. Sounds more like bribery!

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


$317,000.00 is a LOT of money... everywhere... and if was for a job
that didn't need to exist... it was pretty clear that it was akin to
payola.

Those "in the know" and those working in much of the corporate world
don't think $317k is a lot of money.
They just figure it's what they deserve, since their pals have similar
salaries.
Everybody has their own reality.

--Vic
It's *not* a lot of money for a high-powered, well-connected lawyer in a
big city.



Yes, for a top flight lawyer doing lawyer jobs. Not for an not needed
position at a hospital, where you get a 100% raise when your spouse becomes
a State Senator. Sounds more like bribery!




A top-flight rainmaker lawyer is going to be earning a hell of a lot
more than a couple of hundred thou in NY, Chi, DC, LA, SF, et cetera.

Since you have no way of knowing whether Mrs. Obama was "needed" or not,
or what she accomplished, your opinion on this matter is worth your
usual nothing.

--
Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws,
and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them,
*unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If
that is your position in life, then anything goes.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


$317,000.00 is a LOT of money... everywhere... and if was for a job
that didn't need to exist... it was pretty clear that it was akin to
payola.

Those "in the know" and those working in much of the corporate world
don't think $317k is a lot of money.
They just figure it's what they deserve, since their pals have similar
salaries.
Everybody has their own reality.

--Vic
It's *not* a lot of money for a high-powered, well-connected lawyer in a
big city.



Yes, for a top flight lawyer doing lawyer jobs. Not for an not needed
position at a hospital, where you get a 100% raise when your spouse
becomes a State Senator. Sounds more like bribery!


A top-flight rainmaker lawyer is going to be earning a hell of a lot more
than a couple of hundred thou in NY, Chi, DC, LA, SF, et cetera.

Since you have no way of knowing whether Mrs. Obama was "needed" or not,
or what she accomplished, your opinion on this matter is worth your usual
nothing.

--
Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws,
and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them,
*unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If
that is your position in life, then anything goes.

You mean a good bribe getting lawyer earns more in NYC? She got a 100%
raise when her husband got elected.. A bribe.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

NotNow wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:31:38 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:46:22 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack

wrote:

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No
one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!
Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with
Dubai
too.
And China... can you say "How much to sleep in the Rincoln bedroom?"
It is no accident that WalMart doubled it's market share in the 90s.
They are from Bentonville Arkansas, a suburb of Little Rock.
Aren't republicans FOR free trade? Or is that with certain qualifiers?
I don't have a problem with free trade, The real question was if
this was "fair" trade.
We pile environmental, labor and safety laws on our corporations (not
a bad idea) without imposing those on the competition (the bad part),
then wonder why they kick our ass.
Ah, so then it's not free trade if we put a bunch of restrictions on
it, not is it? If the cost of environmental and safety laws make us
non-competitive in a certain sector, it's time to re-invent.
BTW this trend still continues. All of the upcoming "carbon" and
existing CFC protocols that favor countries like China and Mexico who
are largely exempt.
So? First of all that's the personification of "free trade". I take
it you really don't want free trade at all, you just don't want
anyone in the U.S. bound by any rules. Tell me, what ARE Mexico and
China's environmental, safety and labor laws anyway? Don't say they
are non-existent because that's not true.

Do you have a problem with the unions getting "busted" because all
the jobs are in China now?
Nope.

China and Mexico's environmental, safety and labor laws may exist but
they are certainly not enforced. That puts us at a severe disadvantage
so the trade is not "fair". This will really be true if the cap and
tax bill passes, unless we put
a huge carbon tariff on all imported Chinese products, based on the
amount of coal they burn. That will not happen

Sure it's "fair". It may not be fair to YOU however. You can't have it
both ways. Either you want free trade or you don't.

More about China's labor laws:


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/wo...4.6417118.html

Mexican labor laws:

http://www.natlaw.com/pubs/purchase/mexus.htm

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:48:34 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:


$317,000.00 is a LOT of money... everywhere... and if was for a job
that didn't need to exist... it was pretty clear that it was akin to
payola.

Those "in the know" and those working in much of the corporate world
don't think $317k is a lot of money.
They just figure it's what they deserve, since their pals have similar
salaries.
Everybody has their own reality.

--Vic
It's *not* a lot of money for a high-powered, well-connected lawyer in a
big city.


Yes, for a top flight lawyer doing lawyer jobs. Not for an not needed
position at a hospital, where you get a 100% raise when your spouse
becomes a State Senator. Sounds more like bribery!

A top-flight rainmaker lawyer is going to be earning a hell of a lot more
than a couple of hundred thou in NY, Chi, DC, LA, SF, et cetera.

Since you have no way of knowing whether Mrs. Obama was "needed" or not,
or what she accomplished, your opinion on this matter is worth your usual
nothing.

--
Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws,
and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them,
*unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If
that is your position in life, then anything goes.

You mean a good bribe getting lawyer earns more in NYC? She got a 100%
raise when her husband got elected.. A bribe.




D'oh.

--
Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws,
and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them,
*unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If
that is your position in life, then anything goes.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:32:48 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:25:00 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Jim wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
From the website of Free Library, at
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Some+e...e.-a0192591436



"Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama,
for example. The University of Chicago Medical Center hired
her in 2002 to run "programs for community relations,
neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity,
and minority contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her
salary from $120,000 to $317,000--nearly twice what her
husband made as a U.S. senator. Oh, did we mention that he had
just become a U.S. senator? He sure had. Requested a $1
million earmark for the UC Medical Center, in fact. Way to
network, Michelle! But now that Mrs. Obama has resigned, the
hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How can that
be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth $317,000?
We can think of only one explanation: Roland Burris's wife
wasn't interested."


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliberton, quit to become Vice
President, but still gets "deferred compensation," bonuses and
held stock until 2006.

Halliburton received no bid contracts and cost plus contracts
for their work in the Iraq war.

Profiting from a war, especially one you were instrumental in
starting, should **** you off.

But it doesn't. Everything is Obama.

War profiteering used to be a bad thing, but it's ok now. As
long as you are a Republican, that is.

Don't be an...... Clinton used Haliburton in the Balkans too,
for the same reason.. Nobody else does what they do! Period...
That wasn't a "no bid" contract.
Who bid against them?
Like most of the criticism, the Haliburton issue is a red herring
manufactured by the opposition... Like most of these issues, they
are criminalizing "government as usual", and in this case, have
done exactly the same thing themselves... IE Tom Delay...

This is only possible because of the full support of the Media. we
are already seeing censorship and the stomping of the constitution
with new rules against criticism in the senate and senators
political speech, next it will be the rest of the media, just like
I said long ago. We are in huge trouble..
Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!


Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with Dubai
too. I see little difference between the Bushes and the Clintons.

Shhhhhhh... You are not supposed to mention that!

Using your previous analogy, how many criminal charges were filed?

About the same number that have been filed against Halliburton and/or
Cheney...

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!
Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with
Dubai
too.
And China... can you say "How much to sleep in the Rincoln bedroom?"

It is no accident that WalMart doubled it's market share in the 90s.
They are from Bentonville Arkansas, a suburb of Little Rock.

Aren't republicans FOR free trade? Or is that with certain qualifiers?

I guess about as much as all democrats are for socialism...

Oh, so your NOT for free trade?

Not when it means the farce called "free trade" we have now... but that
is another story.. I really have not been able to keep up lately, I get
to read maybe 20 posts a day with the rainy racing season and all... We
have to get ready for a two day up in Maine this weekend, honestly, I
really don't care much for this kind of camping, too much work...

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
NotNow wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:38:08 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:

Oh, come on now. You can't possibly think that the
Bush/Cheney/Halliburtion/Dubai debacle was on the up and up. No one
except a complete opposite of Harry could think that!!!!!!
Former President Clinton had a pretty sweet consulting deal with
Dubai
too.
And China... can you say "How much to sleep in the Rincoln bedroom?"

It is no accident that WalMart doubled it's market share in the 90s.
They are from Bentonville Arkansas, a suburb of Little Rock.

Aren't republicans FOR free trade? Or is that with certain qualifiers?

I guess about as much as all democrats are for socialism...

Oh, so your NOT for free trade?

Not when it means the farce called "free trade" we have now... but that
is another story.. I really have not been able to keep up lately, I get
to read maybe 20 posts a day with the rainy racing season and all... We
have to get ready for a two day up in Maine this weekend, honestly, I
really don't care much for this kind of camping, too much work...

Man, I'm right the opposite, I'll go camping anytime, anywhere!

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:00:41 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:32:34 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:05:42 -0400, NotNow wrote:

More about China's labor laws:

"Foreign executives said that they are especially worried about new
labor regulations because their companies tend to comply with
existing
laws more rigorously than some of their Chinese competitors do. Their
competitive disadvantage could increase sharply, they said, if the
new
rules put fresh burdens on foreign companies that their local
counterparts ignore."

Thanks for the link.

Like I said "fair trade"
So you are FOR "fair trade", but against "free trade"?

I never said anything different. "Free trade" was your term
So you ARE against free trade?

I don't know, I have never seen free trade. As long as the government
puts burdens on corporations that are not
put on in other countries trade is not "free".
I understand why we do it but I am also not confused that it puts a
thumb on the scale.
The only question is if our attempts to put safety nets under workers
and saving the planet will end up bankrupting the country. If the dollar
collapses we will lose all of that protection along with
life as we know it. Socialism and environmentalism are rich man's
games.

Yeah, we shouldn't want a toxic free place for our kids to grow up, huh?
We should have just let the chemical factories in Niagara Falls spew
crap into the Love Canal where the cancer rates and birth deformities
were much higher than usual.

Nobody is saying we should kill our kids, the problem is the rules we
enforce on our companies and do not require the same for exports to the US.
And Love Canal is a very bad example to use. It was a toxic waste dump,
that had been sealed over, etc. The City Fathers had taken over the land
and against the advice of the chemical company, sold it to developers. Was
the politicians making money that cause the disaster in the end.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:00:41 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:32:34 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:05:42 -0400, NotNow wrote:

More about China's labor laws:

"Foreign executives said that they are especially worried about new
labor regulations because their companies tend to comply with
existing
laws more rigorously than some of their Chinese competitors do. Their
competitive disadvantage could increase sharply, they said, if the
new
rules put fresh burdens on foreign companies that their local
counterparts ignore."

Thanks for the link.

Like I said "fair trade"
So you are FOR "fair trade", but against "free trade"?
I never said anything different. "Free trade" was your term
So you ARE against free trade?
I don't know, I have never seen free trade. As long as the government
puts burdens on corporations that are not
put on in other countries trade is not "free".
I understand why we do it but I am also not confused that it puts a
thumb on the scale.
The only question is if our attempts to put safety nets under workers
and saving the planet will end up bankrupting the country. If the dollar
collapses we will lose all of that protection along with
life as we know it. Socialism and environmentalism are rich man's
games.
Yeah, we shouldn't want a toxic free place for our kids to grow up, huh?
We should have just let the chemical factories in Niagara Falls spew
crap into the Love Canal where the cancer rates and birth deformities
were much higher than usual.

Nobody is saying we should kill our kids, the problem is the rules we
enforce on our companies and do not require the same for exports to the US.
And Love Canal is a very bad example to use. It was a toxic waste dump,
that had been sealed over, etc. The City Fathers had taken over the land
and against the advice of the chemical company, sold it to developers. Was
the politicians making money that cause the disaster in the end.


Aren't most man made disasters caused by politicians?

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

"J i m" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:00:41 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:32:34 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:05:42 -0400, NotNow
wrote:

More about China's labor laws:

"Foreign executives said that they are especially worried about new
labor regulations because their companies tend to comply with
existing
laws more rigorously than some of their Chinese competitors do.
Their
competitive disadvantage could increase sharply, they said, if the
new
rules put fresh burdens on foreign companies that their local
counterparts ignore."

Thanks for the link.

Like I said "fair trade"
So you are FOR "fair trade", but against "free trade"?
I never said anything different. "Free trade" was your term
So you ARE against free trade?
I don't know, I have never seen free trade. As long as the government
puts burdens on corporations that are not
put on in other countries trade is not "free".
I understand why we do it but I am also not confused that it puts a
thumb on the scale.
The only question is if our attempts to put safety nets under workers
and saving the planet will end up bankrupting the country. If the
dollar collapses we will lose all of that protection along with
life as we know it. Socialism and environmentalism are rich man's
games.
Yeah, we shouldn't want a toxic free place for our kids to grow up, huh?
We should have just let the chemical factories in Niagara Falls spew
crap into the Love Canal where the cancer rates and birth deformities
were much higher than usual.

Nobody is saying we should kill our kids, the problem is the rules we
enforce on our companies and do not require the same for exports to the
US. And Love Canal is a very bad example to use. It was a toxic waste
dump, that had been sealed over, etc. The City Fathers had taken over
the land and against the advice of the chemical company, sold it to
developers. Was the politicians making money that cause the disaster in
the end.
Aren't most man made disasters caused by politicians?

No the excessive problems in the aftermath of a disaster is caused by the
politicians.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"J i m" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:00:41 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:32:34 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:05:42 -0400, NotNow
wrote:

More about China's labor laws:

"Foreign executives said that they are especially worried about new
labor regulations because their companies tend to comply with
existing
laws more rigorously than some of their Chinese competitors do.
Their
competitive disadvantage could increase sharply, they said, if the
new
rules put fresh burdens on foreign companies that their local
counterparts ignore."

Thanks for the link.

Like I said "fair trade"
So you are FOR "fair trade", but against "free trade"?
I never said anything different. "Free trade" was your term
So you ARE against free trade?
I don't know, I have never seen free trade. As long as the government
puts burdens on corporations that are not
put on in other countries trade is not "free".
I understand why we do it but I am also not confused that it puts a
thumb on the scale.
The only question is if our attempts to put safety nets under workers
and saving the planet will end up bankrupting the country. If the
dollar collapses we will lose all of that protection along with
life as we know it. Socialism and environmentalism are rich man's
games.
Yeah, we shouldn't want a toxic free place for our kids to grow up, huh?
We should have just let the chemical factories in Niagara Falls spew
crap into the Love Canal where the cancer rates and birth deformities
were much higher than usual.
Nobody is saying we should kill our kids, the problem is the rules we
enforce on our companies and do not require the same for exports to the
US. And Love Canal is a very bad example to use. It was a toxic waste
dump, that had been sealed over, etc. The City Fathers had taken over
the land and against the advice of the chemical company, sold it to
developers. Was the politicians making money that cause the disaster in
the end.
Aren't most man made disasters caused by politicians?

No the excessive problems in the aftermath of a disaster is caused by the
politicians.




One of the ongoing joys of rec.boats: the never-ending attempts by the
righties to rationalize and justify corporate behavior, no matter what
horrors it might inflict upon the public.

I'm sure there are rightie posters here who see nothing wrong with
corporations dumping dangerous chemicals in the water supply. After all,
it's profit uber alles .




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Whatever moral rules you have proposed, abide by them as they were laws,
and as if you would be guilty of impiety by violating any of them,
*unless* you are a conservative Republican office holder or minister. If
that is your position in life, then anything goes.

Palin, you should have been in Chicago
 

"H the K" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"J i m" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:00:41 -0400, NotNow wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:32:34 -0400, NotNow
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:05:42 -0400, NotNow
wrote:

More about China's labor laws:

"Foreign executives said that they are especially worried about
new
labor regulations because their companies tend to comply with
existing
laws more rigorously than some of their Chinese competitors do.
Their
competitive disadvantage could increase sharply, they said, if
the new
rules put fresh burdens on foreign companies that their local
counterparts ignore."

Thanks for the link.

Like I said "fair trade"
So you are FOR "fair trade", but against "free trade"?
I never said anything different. "Free trade" was your term
So you ARE against free trade?
I don't know, I have never seen free trade. As long as the government
puts burdens on corporations that are not
put on in other countries trade is not "free".
I understand why we do it but I am also not confused that it puts a
thumb on the scale.
The only question is if our attempts to put safety nets under workers
and saving the planet will end up bankrupting the country. If the
dollar collapses we will lose all of that protection along with
life as we know it. Socialism and environmentalism are rich man's
games.
Yeah, we shouldn't want a toxic free place for our kids to grow up,
huh?
We should have just let the chemical factories in Niagara Falls spew
crap into the Love Canal where the cancer rates and birth deformities
were much higher than usual.
Nobody is saying we should kill our kids, the problem is the rules we
enforce on our companies and do not require the same for exports to the
US. And Love Canal is a very bad example to use. It was a toxic waste
dump, that had been sealed over, etc. The City Fathers had taken over
the land and against the advice of the chemical company, sold it to
developers. Was the politicians making money that cause the disaster
in the end.
Aren't most man made disasters caused by politicians?

No the excessive problems in the aftermath of a disaster is caused by the
politicians.


One of the ongoing joys of rec.boats: the never-ending attempts by the
righties to rationalize and justify corporate behavior, no matter what
horrors it might inflict upon the public.

I'm sure there are rightie posters here who see nothing wrong with
corporations dumping dangerous chemicals in the water supply. After all,
it's profit uber alles .





Oh, you mean those corporations run by Democrats. Sort of like those of Ms.
Feinsteins husband and his mining corps?