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Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin By RACHEL D'ORO The Associated Press (07/21/09 12:42:07) An independent investigator has found evidence that Gov. Sarah Palin may have violated ethics laws by trading on her position in seeking money for legal fees, in the latest legal distraction for the former vice presidential candidate as she prepares to leave office this week. The report obtained by The Associated Press says Palin is securing unwarranted benefits and receiving improper gifts through the Alaska Fund Trust, set up by supporters. An investigator for the state Personnel Board says in his July 14 report that there is probable cause to believe Palin used or attempted to use her official position for personal gain because she authorized the creation of the trust as the "official" legal defense fund. The practical effect of the ruling on Palin will be more financial than anything else. The report recommends that Palin refuse to accept payment from the defense fund, and that the complaint be resolved without a formal hearing before the board. The fund aims to help Palin pay off debts stemming from multiple ethics complaints against her, most of which have been dismissed. Palin says she owes more than $500,000 in legal fees, and she cited the mounting toll of the ethics probes as one of the reasons she is leaving office. The investigator, Thomas Daniel, sided with Palin in her frustration with having to defend herself against a barrage of ethics complaints. He suggested that Alaska lawmakers may need to create a law that reimburses public officials for legal expenses to defend complaints that end up being unfounded. Palin posted an entry on Twitter in which she said the "matter is still pending." "There is no final report. The Investigator is still confidentially reviewing this matter. It appears suspect that in the final days of the Governor's term, someone would again violate the law and announce a supposed conclusion before it is reached," her spokeswoman, Meghan Stapleton, said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. But Daniel said his report was final. Palin's friends and supporters created the Alaska Fund Trust in April, limiting donations to $150 per person. Organizers declined to say how much it has raised, and had hoped to raise about $500,000. A Webathon last month brought in about $130,000 in pledges. In his report, Daniel said his interpretation of the ethics act is consistent with common sense. An ordinary citizen facing legal charges is not likely to be able to generate donations to a legal defense fund, he wrote. "In contrast, Governor Palin is able to generate donations because of the fact that she is a public official and a public figure. Were it not for the fact that she is governor and a national political figure, it is unlikely that many citizens would donate money to her legal defense fund." The ethics complaint was filed by Eagle River resident Kim Chatman shortly after the fund was created, alleging Palin was misusing her official position and accepting improper gifts. "It's an absolute shame that she would continue to keep the Alaska Fund Trust Web site up and running," Chatman told the AP. At least 19 ethics complaints have been filed against Palin, most of them after she was named the running mate for GOP presidential candidate John McCain. Most of those have been dismissed, and Palin's office usually sends a news release with the announcement. The multiple ethics complaints include an investigation by state lawmakers over Palin's firing of her public safety commissioner in the so-called Troopergate scandal. John Coale, a Washington lawyer who helped set up the fund, called the probable cause finding "crazy," adding that if upheld, it would mean that no governor could ever defend themselves against frivolous ethics complaints. "If this complaint is true, there's no way to defend yourself" as governor, Coale said. "Anybody can keep filing ethics complaints and drive someone out of office even if you're a nut." Coale said that unlike other states, Alaska's governor has no legal counsel's office to defend the governor from allegations brought against the governor in her official capacity. Coale said he recommended creation of the legal defense fund, a common practice in Washington. The Web site for the Palin fund cites similar accounts created for Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and other prominent politicians. www.adn.com -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
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"H the K" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky. It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. Eisboch |
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"H the K" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky. It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. Eisboch That's reserved for Republican U.S. senators and governors who cheat on their wives. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky. It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. Eisboch That's reserved for Republican U.S. senators and governors who cheat on their wives. The liberal press is struggling hard to make any hay out of this one. There really isn't any clear definition that she did anything wrong. There are no statutes that cover it. The recommendation are that she simply drop the idea of the fund, refuse any contributions and have the Alaskan legislator draft some laws that address and prohibit it in the future. Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. There's nothing on the books that covers it. But, of course, the media is making it sound like she should face a jail term. (truthful explanations, when given, are in soft voices as they break for a commercial) Just watched Maddow do it just now. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky. It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. Eisboch That's reserved for Republican U.S. senators and governors who cheat on their wives. The liberal press is struggling hard to make any hay out of this one. There really isn't any clear definition that she did anything wrong. There are no statutes that cover it. The recommendation are that she simply drop the idea of the fund, refuse any contributions and have the Alaskan legislator draft some laws that address and prohibit it in the future. Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. There's nothing on the books that covers it. But, of course, the media is making it sound like she should face a jail term. (truthful explanations, when given, are in soft voices as they break for a commercial) Just watched Maddow do it just now. Eisboch As I said, she's the gift that keeps on giving...and giving...and giving. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
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On Jul 21, 9:34*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"H the K" wrote in messagenews:JuSdnRG4XaWQ9fvXnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@earth link.com... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message news:npOdnYf5h7BTyvvXnZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@earthlin k.com... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. *She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while *defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky.. It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. Eisboch That's reserved for Republican U.S. senators and governors who cheat on their wives. The liberal press is struggling hard to make any hay out of this one. There really isn't any clear definition that she did anything wrong. *There are no statutes that cover it. The recommendation are that she simply drop the idea of the fund, refuse any contributions and have the Alaskan legislator draft some laws that address and prohibit it in the future. Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. There's nothing on the books that covers it. But, of course, the media is making it sound like she should face a jail term. (truthful explanations, when given, are in soft voices as they break for a commercial) Just watched *Maddow do it just now. Eisboch She just continues to be a target for the liberal media assholes. As bad as Obama is screwing up, that's no surprise. It's the "Look over there!" approach. The polls are showing that Joe Public is starting to get wise to the Obama farce. Hopefully not too late... he's burning through his political capital at an alarming rate... to both sides of the aisle. |
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "H the K" wrote in message om... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky. It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. Eisboch That's reserved for Republican U.S. senators and governors who cheat on their wives. The liberal press is struggling hard to make any hay out of this one. Are you watching and reading the "liberal press?" She's a self-fulfilling train wreck who can't help but screw up. Not a rule follower. Thinks her power overshadows what simple folk are held to by law. Remember, if she were in the White House, the Department of Law would protect her. Bloody waste of time but what train wreck has any press been able to avoid? She's a headline grabber, no matter the slant of the media outlet. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... Are you watching and reading the "liberal press?" I do often. She's a self-fulfilling train wreck who can't help but screw up. Not a rule follower. Thinks her power overshadows what simple folk are held to by law. Care to cite what laws she has circumvented that simple folk are held to? The state investigators and the FBI haven't seem to found one yet and they would probably love to know. Eisboch |
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jps wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch It sounds to me as if she either has no competent advisers or ignores their advice. I would bet it is the latter. She's just *so* mavericky. It's often easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. Eisboch That's reserved for Republican U.S. senators and governors who cheat on their wives. The liberal press is struggling hard to make any hay out of this one. Are you watching and reading the "liberal press?" She's a self-fulfilling train wreck who can't help but screw up. Not a rule follower. Thinks her power overshadows what simple folk are held to by law. Remember, if she were in the White House, the Department of Law would protect her. Bloody waste of time but what train wreck has any press been able to avoid? She's a headline grabber, no matter the slant of the media outlet. And she's a paranoiac perpetual victim. But, hey, SW Tom supported her, and contended here she was going to help McCain win. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. |
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"thunder" wrote in message t... On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. And, like any citizen, if accused, indicted, tried and found guilty she should pay the penalty. So far, none of that has happened. Most allegations have been investigated and dismissed. She's been tried and found guilty in the liberal media only, who are so preoccupied with her, her lifestyle, her interests and hobbies. It's comical to watch. Eisboch |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Anchorage Daily News Ethics investigator rules against Palin Gee. She sets up a legal defense fund to help pay off half a million dollars of legal fees incurred while defending herself against 18 other bogus ethics violation allegations, most of which have been dismissed and she gets hit with another ethics violation for doing so. Almost sounds like entrapment to me. Eisboch Harry the Village Idiot is just obsessed with her. |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:55:11 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote: "thunder" wrote in message et... On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. And, like any citizen, if accused, indicted, tried and found guilty she should pay the penalty. So far, none of that has happened. Most allegations have been investigated and dismissed. She's been tried and found guilty in the liberal media only, who are so preoccupied with her, her lifestyle, her interests and hobbies. It's comical to watch. Eisboch Sarah Palin has been bullied, by the liberal media, the Left, and even a few elitist Republicans, from the time she hit the national stage. There is really no more honestly appropriate way of putting it. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:10:20 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. Maybe she should consider having her attorney look into the legality BEFORE she commits ethics violations. I expect her legal bills would be significantly lower. |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:10:20 -0500, thunder wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. Maybe she should consider having her attorney look into the legality BEFORE she commits ethics violations. I expect her legal bills would be significantly lower. I mentioned this the other day, but it seems apparent Palin either does not listen to her professional advisers or doesn't have any. It's part of being so mavericky. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:18:39 -0400, H the K
wrote: jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:10:20 -0500, thunder wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. Maybe she should consider having her attorney look into the legality BEFORE she commits ethics violations. I expect her legal bills would be significantly lower. I mentioned this the other day, but it seems apparent Palin either does not listen to her professional advisers or doesn't have any. It's part of being so mavericky. Part of being mavericky is that sometimes you end up with a stick up your ass. She's got 'em coming out of every orifice. |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:43:53 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:58:11 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:55:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "thunder" wrote in message tinet... On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. And, like any citizen, if accused, indicted, tried and found guilty she should pay the penalty. So far, none of that has happened. Most allegations have been investigated and dismissed. She's been tried and found guilty in the liberal media only, who are so preoccupied with her, her lifestyle, her interests and hobbies. It's comical to watch. Eisboch Sarah Palin has been bullied, by the liberal media, the Left, and even a few elitist Republicans, from the time she hit the national stage. There is really no more honestly appropriate way of putting it. Honestly? You're the arbiter of honesty? Yikes. Cost you money whenever anybody sues you. My insurance agent and most of North California State Farm agents cost them money. Mine $900 when they were sued on ADA violations. The suer (sewer?) made 2 million the year before suing companies over ADA stuff. He can not sue State Farm people as they got him ruled a Vexious Litigant. But he is into suing Costco, etc now. You'll not find any "Vexious Litigants" involved in Palin's troubles. She was warned, advised and browbeaten for asking Walt Monegan to take action against her former brother in law, after he'd already been reviewed and reprimanded by the responsible state agency. That didn't stop her and her husband from demanding that he be fired. If anyone is a bully, it's her. She didn't flinch when people in her audience screamed "kill him!" referring to Obama when she whipped them into a frenzy. Another anti-education, above-the-law fundie who deserves everything she's getting. |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:30:48 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:43:53 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:58:11 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:55:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "thunder" wrote in message news:lZidnaaWFKcBbvvXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@posted. gtinet... On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. And, like any citizen, if accused, indicted, tried and found guilty she should pay the penalty. So far, none of that has happened. Most allegations have been investigated and dismissed. She's been tried and found guilty in the liberal media only, who are so preoccupied with her, her lifestyle, her interests and hobbies. It's comical to watch. Eisboch Sarah Palin has been bullied, by the liberal media, the Left, and even a few elitist Republicans, from the time she hit the national stage. There is really no more honestly appropriate way of putting it. Honestly? You're the arbiter of honesty? Yikes. Cost you money whenever anybody sues you. My insurance agent and most of North California State Farm agents cost them money. Mine $900 when they were sued on ADA violations. The suer (sewer?) made 2 million the year before suing companies over ADA stuff. He can not sue State Farm people as they got him ruled a Vexious Litigant. But he is into suing Costco, etc now. You'll not find any "Vexious Litigants" involved in Palin's troubles. She was warned, advised and browbeaten for asking Walt Monegan to take action against her former brother in law, after he'd already been reviewed and reprimanded by the responsible state agency. That didn't stop her and her husband from demanding that he be fired. If anyone is a bully, it's her. She didn't flinch when people in her audience screamed "kill him!" referring to Obama when she whipped them into a frenzy. Another anti-education, above-the-law fundie who deserves everything she's getting. Even Michael Moore sprinkes his specious propaganda with some humor. This bilge is not only vile and blatantly dishonest. It's completely banal. Bullies come in all sizes and flavors. For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." JPS - Just Propaganda, Son. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote:
For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:30:48 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:43:53 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:58:11 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:55:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "thunder" wrote in message news:lZidnaaWFKcBbvvXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@posted .gtinet... On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:34:00 -0400, Eisboch wrote: Sounds like again, she didn't break any laws or commit any ethics violations. Laws or ethics? She did have to repay monies for her children's travel. Then there is the Branchflower report. While no laws were broken, the report found that she broke the Executive Branch Ethics Act when she pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Nothing for nothing, but who accumulates $500,000 in legal fees defending against frivolous charges? Frankly, and this is only my guess, but I'm still suspicious of the timing and specifics of her house building. And, like any citizen, if accused, indicted, tried and found guilty she should pay the penalty. So far, none of that has happened. Most allegations have been investigated and dismissed. She's been tried and found guilty in the liberal media only, who are so preoccupied with her, her lifestyle, her interests and hobbies. It's comical to watch. Eisboch Sarah Palin has been bullied, by the liberal media, the Left, and even a few elitist Republicans, from the time she hit the national stage. There is really no more honestly appropriate way of putting it. Honestly? You're the arbiter of honesty? Yikes. Cost you money whenever anybody sues you. My insurance agent and most of North California State Farm agents cost them money. Mine $900 when they were sued on ADA violations. The suer (sewer?) made 2 million the year before suing companies over ADA stuff. He can not sue State Farm people as they got him ruled a Vexious Litigant. But he is into suing Costco, etc now. You'll not find any "Vexious Litigants" involved in Palin's troubles. She was warned, advised and browbeaten for asking Walt Monegan to take action against her former brother in law, after he'd already been reviewed and reprimanded by the responsible state agency. That didn't stop her and her husband from demanding that he be fired. If anyone is a bully, it's her. She didn't flinch when people in her audience screamed "kill him!" referring to Obama when she whipped them into a frenzy. Another anti-education, above-the-law fundie who deserves everything she's getting. Even Michael Moore sprinkes his specious propaganda with some humor. This bilge is not only vile and blatantly dishonest. It's completely banal. Bullies come in all sizes and flavors. For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." JPS - Just Propaganda, Son. Mumbo jumbo bull****. She's a scumbag, plain and simple. Quit her job to go cash in. Anyone with your vocabulary and ability to rationalize who thinks she's worth a plugged nickle needs to seek good therapy or just a really hard slap across the face. Maybe you'd wake up. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote:
On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin...the gift that keeps on giving, redux: ABC News Sarah Palin Says Farewell to Alaska Governor's Office Poll Shows Her Popularity is Suffering, But Could She Have a Political Second Act? By JOHN HENDREN July 24, 2009 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, once considered a top candidate for 2012 GOP presidential nomination after sharing the ticket with Sen. John McCain last year, leaves the governor's office this weekend with an increasingly negative image and concerns over the depth of her intellect that threaten any future political candidacy. Just four in 10 voters now hold a favorable view of Palin overall -- a new low, down from 58 percent last year, an ABC News/Washington Post poll has found. A majority of 53 percent now view her unfavorably, a perilous figure for any public office seeker. - - - Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:15:06 -0400, H K
wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin...the gift that keeps on giving, redux: ABC News Sarah Palin Says Farewell to Alaska Governor's Office Poll Shows Her Popularity is Suffering, But Could She Have a Political Second Act? By JOHN HENDREN July 24, 2009 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, once considered a top candidate for 2012 GOP presidential nomination after sharing the ticket with Sen. John McCain last year, leaves the governor's office this weekend with an increasingly negative image and concerns over the depth of her intellect that threaten any future political candidacy. Just four in 10 voters now hold a favorable view of Palin overall -- a new low, down from 58 percent last year, an ABC News/Washington Post poll has found. A majority of 53 percent now view her unfavorably, a perilous figure for any public office seeker. - - - Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. If Palin ruins herself, there is nothing to lament. If she is ruined by a perpetual onslaught of character assassination, then I have complete sympathy for her. Any damage, for the most part, that she has accrued, as it now stands, has come from egotists and gutless assassins. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Jul 24, 3:15*pm, H K wrote:
Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry says while being ignorant and divisive..... |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:15:06 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin...the gift that keeps on giving, redux: ABC News Sarah Palin Says Farewell to Alaska Governor's Office Poll Shows Her Popularity is Suffering, But Could She Have a Political Second Act? By JOHN HENDREN July 24, 2009 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, once considered a top candidate for 2012 GOP presidential nomination after sharing the ticket with Sen. John McCain last year, leaves the governor's office this weekend with an increasingly negative image and concerns over the depth of her intellect that threaten any future political candidacy. Just four in 10 voters now hold a favorable view of Palin overall -- a new low, down from 58 percent last year, an ABC News/Washington Post poll has found. A majority of 53 percent now view her unfavorably, a perilous figure for any public office seeker. - - - Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. If Palin ruins herself, there is nothing to lament. If she is ruined by a perpetual onslaught of character assassination, then I have complete sympathy for her. Any damage, for the most part, that she has accrued, as it now stands, has come from egotists and gutless assassins. The damage she has accumulated to date is a result of her divisiveness, her lack of knowledge on issues, her difficulties in getting along with her peers and with the party apparatus, her unwillingness to follow at least some of rules that most "national candidates" follow, her inability to keep her mouth shut sometimes, the fact that she quit her job in mid-stream, and all the ethical issues. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote: On Jul 24, 3:15*pm, H K wrote: Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry says while being ignorant and divisive..... Palin Redux, ad naseum; "If Palin ruins herself, there is nothing to lament." -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:38:43 -0400, H K
wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:15:06 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin...the gift that keeps on giving, redux: ABC News Sarah Palin Says Farewell to Alaska Governor's Office Poll Shows Her Popularity is Suffering, But Could She Have a Political Second Act? By JOHN HENDREN July 24, 2009 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, once considered a top candidate for 2012 GOP presidential nomination after sharing the ticket with Sen. John McCain last year, leaves the governor's office this weekend with an increasingly negative image and concerns over the depth of her intellect that threaten any future political candidacy. Just four in 10 voters now hold a favorable view of Palin overall -- a new low, down from 58 percent last year, an ABC News/Washington Post poll has found. A majority of 53 percent now view her unfavorably, a perilous figure for any public office seeker. - - - Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. If Palin ruins herself, there is nothing to lament. If she is ruined by a perpetual onslaught of character assassination, then I have complete sympathy for her. Any damage, for the most part, that she has accrued, as it now stands, has come from egotists and gutless assassins. The damage she has accumulated to date is a result of her divisiveness, her lack of knowledge on issues, her difficulties in getting along with her peers and with the party apparatus, her unwillingness to follow at least some of rules that most "national candidates" follow, her inability to keep her mouth shut sometimes, the fact that she quit her job in mid-stream, and all the ethical issues. I think we can take heart in the fact that you don't write history books. (You don't, do you?) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:38:43 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:15:06 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin...the gift that keeps on giving, redux: ABC News Sarah Palin Says Farewell to Alaska Governor's Office Poll Shows Her Popularity is Suffering, But Could She Have a Political Second Act? By JOHN HENDREN July 24, 2009 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, once considered a top candidate for 2012 GOP presidential nomination after sharing the ticket with Sen. John McCain last year, leaves the governor's office this weekend with an increasingly negative image and concerns over the depth of her intellect that threaten any future political candidacy. Just four in 10 voters now hold a favorable view of Palin overall -- a new low, down from 58 percent last year, an ABC News/Washington Post poll has found. A majority of 53 percent now view her unfavorably, a perilous figure for any public office seeker. - - - Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. If Palin ruins herself, there is nothing to lament. If she is ruined by a perpetual onslaught of character assassination, then I have complete sympathy for her. Any damage, for the most part, that she has accrued, as it now stands, has come from egotists and gutless assassins. The damage she has accumulated to date is a result of her divisiveness, her lack of knowledge on issues, her difficulties in getting along with her peers and with the party apparatus, her unwillingness to follow at least some of rules that most "national candidates" follow, her inability to keep her mouth shut sometimes, the fact that she quit her job in mid-stream, and all the ethical issues. I think we can take heart in the fact that you don't write history books. (You don't, do you?) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin is an embarrassment, along with many of GOP's top dogs these days, including Vitter, Sanford, Limbaugh, Ensign, and all the other holier than thou, over the top Republican conservatrash. |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:15:06 -0400, H K
wrote: the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. A truly pure, unadulterated, sentiment of an egalitarian doctrine. Admirable. “If I can send the flower of the German nation into the hell of war without the smallest pity for the shedding of precious German blood, then surely I have the right to remove millions of an inferior race that breeds like vermin” Adolf Hitler "I reserve the right to defy or invoke the Law of Godwin!" Me -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:54:43 -0400, H K
wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:38:43 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:15:06 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin...the gift that keeps on giving, redux: ABC News Sarah Palin Says Farewell to Alaska Governor's Office Poll Shows Her Popularity is Suffering, But Could She Have a Political Second Act? By JOHN HENDREN July 24, 2009 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, once considered a top candidate for 2012 GOP presidential nomination after sharing the ticket with Sen. John McCain last year, leaves the governor's office this weekend with an increasingly negative image and concerns over the depth of her intellect that threaten any future political candidacy. Just four in 10 voters now hold a favorable view of Palin overall -- a new low, down from 58 percent last year, an ABC News/Washington Post poll has found. A majority of 53 percent now view her unfavorably, a perilous figure for any public office seeker. - - - Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. If Palin ruins herself, there is nothing to lament. If she is ruined by a perpetual onslaught of character assassination, then I have complete sympathy for her. Any damage, for the most part, that she has accrued, as it now stands, has come from egotists and gutless assassins. The damage she has accumulated to date is a result of her divisiveness, her lack of knowledge on issues, her difficulties in getting along with her peers and with the party apparatus, her unwillingness to follow at least some of rules that most "national candidates" follow, her inability to keep her mouth shut sometimes, the fact that she quit her job in mid-stream, and all the ethical issues. I think we can take heart in the fact that you don't write history books. (You don't, do you?) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin is an embarrassment, along with many of GOP's top dogs these days, including Vitter, Sanford, Limbaugh, Ensign, and all the other holier than thou, over the top Republican conservatrash. Will Durant could have used you when he was writing his "Age of Angst." Or was that the "Age of Vitriole"? No, I think it was the "Age of Anti-History." Heck, I can't recall. He had so many in his oeuvre. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:54:43 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:38:43 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:15:06 -0400, H K wrote: wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:02:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:08:50 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:48:41 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:21:02 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:20:03 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0500, wrote: For those having trouble making sense of all of this please pick up a copy of "How to call a Horse a Horse for Dummies." Or maybe just watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0KKGdb4qUY Heck of a lot easier. --Vic Oh, that wasn't Neil Young? No, I remember. That was all about heroin abuse. (Excellent song, excellent group. Those were the days, my friend - ala Mary Hopkins.) It's too bad that these Palin abusers don't have a proper sense of history or decency. Naturally, their immediate retreat is to the Republican hypocrisy/family values argument. My only regret is that I did succomb to the ad hominem in this last note. Still, I'd just as soon call a horse a horse than pretend that I'm justified in bullying other persons. From Shannon More on Huff Post An appeal to authority? Why should I be skeptical? Is this supposed to pass for logic? Pray tell what you're referencing so I may bask in your deep intellect. It's far from being nonsensical. And it doesn't take inscrutable genius to appreciate the rudiments of thought. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_Authority -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin...the gift that keeps on giving, redux: ABC News Sarah Palin Says Farewell to Alaska Governor's Office Poll Shows Her Popularity is Suffering, But Could She Have a Political Second Act? By JOHN HENDREN July 24, 2009 — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, once considered a top candidate for 2012 GOP presidential nomination after sharing the ticket with Sen. John McCain last year, leaves the governor's office this weekend with an increasingly negative image and concerns over the depth of her intellect that threaten any future political candidacy. Just four in 10 voters now hold a favorable view of Palin overall -- a new low, down from 58 percent last year, an ABC News/Washington Post poll has found. A majority of 53 percent now view her unfavorably, a perilous figure for any public office seeker. - - - Prediction? Palin will continue to make ignorant, divisive statements, the precise sort of crap that appeals to her supporters, the basest of the GOP base. If Palin ruins herself, there is nothing to lament. If she is ruined by a perpetual onslaught of character assassination, then I have complete sympathy for her. Any damage, for the most part, that she has accrued, as it now stands, has come from egotists and gutless assassins. The damage she has accumulated to date is a result of her divisiveness, her lack of knowledge on issues, her difficulties in getting along with her peers and with the party apparatus, her unwillingness to follow at least some of rules that most "national candidates" follow, her inability to keep her mouth shut sometimes, the fact that she quit her job in mid-stream, and all the ethical issues. I think we can take heart in the fact that you don't write history books. (You don't, do you?) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Palin is an embarrassment, along with many of GOP's top dogs these days, including Vitter, Sanford, Limbaugh, Ensign, and all the other holier than thou, over the top Republican conservatrash. Will Durant could have used you when he was writing his "Age of Angst." Or was that the "Age of Vitriole"? No, I think it was the "Age of Anti-History." Heck, I can't recall. He had so many in his oeuvre. I call 'em as I see 'em. -- A wise Latina makes better decisions than a dumb elephant. |
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