On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:13:35 -0500, Vic Smith wrote:


These are the little guys that bury themselves as fast as the waves or
kids, dig them up. Try digging a little right at the water's edge,

Aren't these sometimes called "sand crabs?" Seem to remember we called
them that a VA Beach when I was in the Navy. Also seem to remember
thinking about using them for bait after reading something about that,
but didn't do because it happened to be about the only time I just
couldn't find any.

Two different beasts. Sand fleas (mole crabs) and coquina clams. Sand
fleas are indeed, good bait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerita_(genus)

http://research.myfwc.com/features/c...ub.asp?id=7154

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:10:37 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:45 am, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder
wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote:
Could they become a new fresh water plague?
Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels
are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can
improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the
smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra
Mussel infestations.
http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel-
pictures.html
What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of
plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some
places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever.
Casady
From Wiki:
"In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific
of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between
30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the
months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae
(veligers)."
So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting
them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind
em up and use the result in animal feed.
Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With
barbecue sauce, of course.

Harry:

We used to make "Periwinkle soup" made from coquinas we seived from
the beach sand boiled with milk and then strained to remove the sand.

What?

Coquina is empty shells, right? A few hundred yards off the beaches of
St. Augustine were miles of coquina under the surface. Pretty decent
fishing grounds, actually. You made soup from empty shells?

Did it taste like...chicken?

It's a type of clam - you may know them as bean clams.

Make good snapper bait.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:19:14 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:


As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the
water including sea urchins, (yuk).

Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I
always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to
eat them.

My dad loves them, but he knows how to clean them.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:19:14 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:


As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the
water including sea urchins, (yuk).
Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I
always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to
eat them.

My dad loves them, but he knows how to clean them.

--Vic


Practice makes perfect.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Jul 17, 1:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote:
Could they become a new fresh water plague?
Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra
Mussels
are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities
can
improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where
the
smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra
Mussel infestations.
http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel-
pictures.html
What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of
plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some
places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever.

Casady

From Wiki:

"In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific
of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between
30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the
months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae
(veligers)."

So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting
them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind
em up and use the result in animal feed.

Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With
barbecue sauce, of course.

Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner.

They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes
em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You
take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get
about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not
done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting
we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk).

HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Jul 17, 1:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady
wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote:
Could they become a new fresh water plague?
Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra
Mussels
are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities
can
improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where
the
smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra
Mussel infestations.
http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel-
pictures.html
What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of
plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some
places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever.

Casady

From Wiki:

"In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific
of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between
30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the
months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae
(veligers)."

So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting
them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind
em up and use the result in animal feed.

Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With
barbecue sauce, of course.

Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner.

They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes
em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You
take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get
about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not
done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting
we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk).

Urchins eggs are the orange dots on the Sushi.

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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels.


I am not sure how this thread started but Obama was on TV tonight
saying he was going to save us from Zebra mussels.
My idea is to grind them up, use the accumulated fats for bio diesel
and make concrete out of the carbonates for our road projects.

I think the problem is scraping them up.

On Jul 18, 12:52*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:18 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels.

I am not sure how this thread started but Obama was on TV tonight
saying he was going to save us from Zebra mussels.
My idea is to grind them up, use the accumulated fats for bio diesel
and make concrete out of the carbonates for our road projects.

I think the problem is scraping them up.

Wow. Those things will glue onto about anything...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...dex= 3&ned=us