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Blasted Zebra Mussels...
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:13:35 -0500, Vic Smith wrote:
These are the little guys that bury themselves as fast as the waves or kids, dig them up. Try digging a little right at the water's edge, Aren't these sometimes called "sand crabs?" Seem to remember we called them that a VA Beach when I was in the Navy. Also seem to remember thinking about using them for bait after reading something about that, but didn't do because it happened to be about the only time I just couldn't find any. Two different beasts. Sand fleas (mole crabs) and coquina clams. Sand fleas are indeed, good bait. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerita_(genus) http://research.myfwc.com/features/c...ub.asp?id=7154 |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:10:37 -0400, H the K
wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 11:45 am, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Harry: We used to make "Periwinkle soup" made from coquinas we seived from the beach sand boiled with milk and then strained to remove the sand. What? Coquina is empty shells, right? A few hundred yards off the beaches of St. Augustine were miles of coquina under the surface. Pretty decent fishing grounds, actually. You made soup from empty shells? Did it taste like...chicken? It's a type of clam - you may know them as bean clams. Make good snapper bait. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:19:14 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to eat them. My dad loves them, but he knows how to clean them. --Vic |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:19:14 -0500, thunder wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to eat them. My dad loves them, but he knows how to clean them. --Vic Practice makes perfect. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Jul 17, 1:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in messagenews:kL2dnTfQh8IeAf3XnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@earth link.com... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Jul 17, 1:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in messagenews:kL2dnTfQh8IeAf3XnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@earth link.com... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Urchins eggs are the orange dots on the Sushi. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels. I am not sure how this thread started but Obama was on TV tonight saying he was going to save us from Zebra mussels. My idea is to grind them up, use the accumulated fats for bio diesel and make concrete out of the carbonates for our road projects. I think the problem is scraping them up. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
On Jul 18, 12:52*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels. I am not sure how this thread started but Obama was on TV tonight saying he was going to save us from Zebra mussels. My idea is to grind them up, use the accumulated fats for bio diesel and make concrete out of the carbonates for our road projects. I think the problem is scraping them up. Wow. Those things will glue onto about anything... http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...dex= 3&ned=us |
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