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Could they become a new fresh water plague?
http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas... sel_concerns/ Looks like they're spreading in streams pretty fast. I thought the Asian carp were bad which are now hitting upper states,a nd possibly into the great lakes. http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=315639 |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas... sel_concerns/ Looks like they're spreading in streams pretty fast. "Still, the move was a precaution given the threat of the species, and was welcomed by environmental groups who said the threat of the species is serious enough to ban even recreational boating." The Sierra Club and other environmental groups have been after closing the Quabbin for years - there has been a few lawsuits and what not over the years. Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about other than the impact to industry. Last time I was up on the St. Lawrence Seaway, the water was clean, clear - heck, you could watch pike cruising the weed beds 15/20 feet down - like looking through glass. I know some scientists who have made a pretty good case for the zebra mussel being the ultimate water filter system and according to them, one of the reasons why fishing in the Great Lakes has improved - certainly the water clarity has. I thought the Asian carp were bad which are now hitting upper states,a nd possibly into the great lakes. http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=315639 Now those damn things will kill you. I saw a NatGeo special on those things - 6 lb fish flying through the air - wowzers. They had film of a gal getting hit by one up side the head and knocking her out. And then there's these critters. http://fishing.about.com/cs/fishfact.../aa092703a.htm |
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On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote:
Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html |
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html Thank you. I was looking for a link for that. I read a research report on Great Lakes fishing done by some Ohio fisheries biologists and their viewpoint that the Zebra mussel was responsible for the resurgance of Great Lakes fishing. I konw when I was up on the St. Lawrence Seaway five years or so ago, the water was clear, clean and you could see pike and other fish cruising at 15/20 foot depth. |
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On Jul 16, 6:12*am, thunder wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. *Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. *There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html Really? They were always proposed as a pest. But Newtons law still persists, I suppose hmmm. |
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:51:48 -0400, Captain Zombie of Woodstock
wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas... sel_concerns/ Looks like they're spreading in streams pretty fast. "Still, the move was a precaution given the threat of the species, and was welcomed by environmental groups who said the threat of the species is serious enough to ban even recreational boating." The Sierra Club and other environmental groups have been after closing the Quabbin for years - there has been a few lawsuits and what not over the years. Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about other than the impact to industry. Last time I was up on the St. Lawrence Seaway, the water was clean, clear - heck, you could watch pike cruising the weed beds 15/20 feet down - like looking through glass. I know some scientists who have made a pretty good case for the zebra mussel being the ultimate water filter system and according to them, one of the reasons why fishing in the Great Lakes has improved - certainly the water clarity has. I thought the Asian carp were bad which are now hitting upper states,a nd possibly into the great lakes. http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=315639 Now those damn things will kill you. I saw a NatGeo special on those things - 6 lb fish flying through the air - wowzers. They had film of a gal getting hit by one up side the head and knocking her out. And then there's these critters. http://fishing.about.com/cs/fishfact.../aa092703a.htm The snakeheads have definitely established themselves in the Potomac. As you can see, they've spread out quite a bit. http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/colle...SpeciesID=2265 -- John H |
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Captain Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas... sel_concerns/ Looks like they're spreading in streams pretty fast. "Still, the move was a precaution given the threat of the species, and was welcomed by environmental groups who said the threat of the species is serious enough to ban even recreational boating." The Sierra Club and other environmental groups have been after closing the Quabbin for years - there has been a few lawsuits and what not over the years. Personally, I don't see what all the fuss is about other than the impact to industry. Last time I was up on the St. Lawrence Seaway, the water was clean, clear - heck, you could watch pike cruising the weed beds 15/20 feet down - like looking through glass. The zebra Mussel filters all of the water in the St. Lawrence Seaway ever 18 hours or some very small interval of time. I know some scientists who have made a pretty good case for the zebra mussel being the ultimate water filter system and according to them, one of the reasons why fishing in the Great Lakes has improved - certainly the water clarity has. I thought the Asian carp were bad which are now hitting upper states,a nd possibly into the great lakes. http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/release.cfm?id=315639 Now those damn things will kill you. I saw a NatGeo special on those things - 6 lb fish flying through the air - wowzers. They had film of a gal getting hit by one up side the head and knocking her out. And then there's these critters. http://fishing.about.com/cs/fishfact.../aa092703a.htm |
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On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady |
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On Jul 17, 10:25*am, Richard Casady
wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. *Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. *There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. |
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On Jul 17, 11:45*am, H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. *Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. *There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. *Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Harry: We used to make "Periwinkle soup" made from coquinas we seived from the beach sand boiled with milk and then strained to remove the sand. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:45 am, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Harry: We used to make "Periwinkle soup" made from coquinas we seived from the beach sand boiled with milk and then strained to remove the sand. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:45 am, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Harry: We used to make "Periwinkle soup" made from coquinas we seived from the beach sand boiled with milk and then strained to remove the sand. What? Coquina is empty shells, right? A few hundred yards off the beaches of St. Augustine were miles of coquina under the surface. Pretty decent fishing grounds, actually. You made soup from empty shells? Did it taste like...chicken? |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 11:45 am, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Harry: We used to make "Periwinkle soup" made from coquinas we seived from the beach sand boiled with milk and then strained to remove the sand. Frog, please don't copy the asshole's nasty cheap shots at everything that he doesn't find acceptable. |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:10:37 -0400, H the K wrote:
Coquina is empty shells, right? A few hundred yards off the beaches of St. Augustine were miles of coquina under the surface. Pretty decent fishing grounds, actually. You made soup from empty shells? It's a type of clam (I had to look it up) ;-) http://research.myfwc.com/features/c...ub.asp?id=7154 |
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thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:10:37 -0400, H the K wrote: Coquina is empty shells, right? A few hundred yards off the beaches of St. Augustine were miles of coquina under the surface. Pretty decent fishing grounds, actually. You made soup from empty shells? It's a type of clam (I had to look it up) ;-) http://research.myfwc.com/features/c...ub.asp?id=7154 Aha...well, that makes more sense...cooking empty shells...doesn't! :) |
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thunder wrote:
It's a type of clam (I had to look it up) ;-) http://research.myfwc.com/features/c...ub.asp?id=7154 Harry's not too bright. Please don't quote him! |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. I'll take your word for that. We only frequent low-brow Greek diners. |
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On Jul 17, 1:43*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"H the K" wrote in messagenews:kL2dnTfQh8IeAf3XnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@earth link.com... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. *Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. *There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. *Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 17, 1:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in messagenews:kL2dnTfQh8IeAf3XnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@earth link.com... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Makes sense to me now. We used to scrape buckets of mussels off the rocks at low tide. A buddy's mom was traditional Italian and she knew exactly how to cook 'em up with garlic and butter and serve 'em with pasta. |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:36:53 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Harry's not too bright. Please don't quote him! Life is full of little disappointments, isn't it? |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:59:43 -0400, H the K wrote:
Hey...I thought the term was a local name for the empty shells. I was younger then, and didn't question everything. That's my excuse and I am sticking to it. Well it is, sort of. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coquina |
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thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:36:53 -0400, NotNow wrote: Harry's not too bright. Please don't quote him! Life is full of little disappointments, isn't it? "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." Shakespeare, Romeo & Juliet "A loogy by any other name would still smell like ****." Shakespeare, Stupid is as Stupid Does |
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thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:59:43 -0400, H the K wrote: Hey...I thought the term was a local name for the empty shells. I was younger then, and didn't question everything. That's my excuse and I am sticking to it. Well it is, sort of. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coquina Yeah...that's my recollection. |
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thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:36:53 -0400, NotNow wrote: Harry's not too bright. Please don't quote him! Life is full of little disappointments, isn't it? Oh, I don't know if *I* would call Harry a disappointment, but his parents may well have. |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:
As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to eat them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraodontidae |
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thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to eat them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraodontidae I learned a lot about seafood when we lived in Florida, including that most larger fish we caught were not as tasty as smaller fish of the same species, or just plain smaller fish. |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:13:35 -0500, Vic Smith wrote:
These are the little guys that bury themselves as fast as the waves or kids, dig them up. Try digging a little right at the water's edge, Aren't these sometimes called "sand crabs?" Seem to remember we called them that a VA Beach when I was in the Navy. Also seem to remember thinking about using them for bait after reading something about that, but didn't do because it happened to be about the only time I just couldn't find any. Two different beasts. Sand fleas (mole crabs) and coquina clams. Sand fleas are indeed, good bait. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerita_(genus) http://research.myfwc.com/features/c...ub.asp?id=7154 |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:10:37 -0400, H the K
wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 11:45 am, H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Harry: We used to make "Periwinkle soup" made from coquinas we seived from the beach sand boiled with milk and then strained to remove the sand. What? Coquina is empty shells, right? A few hundred yards off the beaches of St. Augustine were miles of coquina under the surface. Pretty decent fishing grounds, actually. You made soup from empty shells? Did it taste like...chicken? It's a type of clam - you may know them as bean clams. Make good snapper bait. |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:19:14 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to eat them. My dad loves them, but he knows how to clean them. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:19:14 -0500, thunder wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:51:25 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Are you Japanese? ;-) Didn't try to eat any blowfish, did you? I always wondered how many people died, *before* they figured out how to eat them. My dad loves them, but he knows how to clean them. --Vic Practice makes perfect. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Jul 17, 1:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in messagenews:kL2dnTfQh8IeAf3XnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@earth link.com... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Jul 17, 1:43 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in messagenews:kL2dnTfQh8IeAf3XnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@earth link.com... Frogwatch wrote: On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Richard Casady wrote: On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:12:56 -0500, thunder wrote: On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:37:20 -0700, Tim wrote: Could they become a new fresh water plague? Not that I would suggest tampering with an ecosystem, but Zebra Mussels are not without some positive aspects. Their filtering capabilities can improve water quality and clarity. There are reports of areas where the smallmouth, perch, and even salmon fishing has improved after Zebra Mussel infestations. http://seapics.com/feature-subject/m.../zebra-mussel- pictures.html What eats them? So many acres of sunlit water will produce x tons of plants which will support y tons of animals. It is looking like, some places, all the animals will be mussels, and no fish whatever. Casady From Wiki: "In terms of reproduction, zebra mussels are among the most prolific of all animals. An adult female Zebra mussel may produce between 30,000 and 1 million[3] eggs per year. Spawning usually begins in the months from late spring to early summer by free-swimming larvae (veligers)." So, why not take advantage of this source of protein by harvesting them or even growing them. Take them off whatever they grow on, grind em up and use the result in animal feed. Or serve them as a delicacy in really crappy rednecky restaurants? With barbecue sauce, of course. Sounds more like fodder you would get in a Yuppie, upscale diner. They aint empty, they got critters in em when alive. The wave washes em in, and then they real quickly bury themselves in the sand. You take a collander and find a patch of em and sieve em out till you get about a gallon of em. I'd have to look up a recipe cuz I have not done it as an adult. As kids, we tried to eat just about everyhting we found in the water including sea urchins, (yuk). Urchins eggs are the orange dots on the Sushi. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels. I am not sure how this thread started but Obama was on TV tonight saying he was going to save us from Zebra mussels. My idea is to grind them up, use the accumulated fats for bio diesel and make concrete out of the carbonates for our road projects. I think the problem is scraping them up. |
Blasted Zebra Mussels...
On Jul 18, 12:52*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:51:18 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: HK was referring to Zebra or Quagga mussels. I am not sure how this thread started but Obama was on TV tonight saying he was going to save us from Zebra mussels. My idea is to grind them up, use the accumulated fats for bio diesel and make concrete out of the carbonates for our road projects. I think the problem is scraping them up. Wow. Those things will glue onto about anything... http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...dex= 3&ned=us |
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