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NotNow[_2_] July 15th 09 01:20 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........

Yogi of Woodstock July 15th 09 01:31 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........


Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.

Just John Again July 15th 09 02:59 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........


Seems to be a quite peaceful day. H the K is going unanswered, for the
most part, and the political crap is way down.

Plus, I got a new drive shaft in my 4Runner this morning. And, all my
change was left in my glove box.

Lastly, I get to go get my boat out of the shop right now!

Bye.
--

John H

NotNow[_2_] July 15th 09 03:01 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........


Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.


Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?

NotNow[_2_] July 15th 09 03:08 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Just John Again wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........


Seems to be a quite peaceful day. H the K is going unanswered, for the
most part, and the political crap is way down.

Plus, I got a new drive shaft in my 4Runner this morning. And, all my
change was left in my glove box.

Lastly, I get to go get my boat out of the shop right now!

Bye.
--

John H


What happened to the drive shaft?

Frogwatch[_2_] July 15th 09 04:07 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Jul 15, 10:08*am, NotNow wrote:
Just John Again wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:


Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........


Seems to be a quite peaceful day. H the K is going unanswered, for the
most part, and the political crap is way down.


Plus, I got a new drive shaft in my 4Runner this morning. And, all my
change was left in my glove box.


Lastly, I get to go get my boat out of the shop right now!


Bye.
--


John H


What happened to the drive shaft?


Anybody know how to get the steering column offa an old Dodge Ram? We
got the wheel off and the lock plate but the stuff under that seems
very diff. Is another special tool needed? Google was not helpful
here.

SteveB[_2_] July 15th 09 04:13 PM

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"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........


Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.


Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?


Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and just
doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?

Steve



Just wait a frekin' minute! July 15th 09 04:58 PM

Holy Cow!
 
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.

Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?


Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and just
doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?

Steve



No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him so
he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...

Yay, BEER!

H the K July 15th 09 05:00 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?


Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?

Steve


No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him so
he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...

Yay, BEER!



snerk


NotNow[_2_] July 15th 09 05:33 PM

Holy Cow!
 
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.

Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?


Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and just
doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?

Steve



We should be so lucky! Harry can't leave this place, it feeds his
narcissism. BUT, most of us have him filtered now, except for Don, and
others have been asked to quit quoting him, so we don't see it, and
they've been gracious enough to do so!

NotNow[_2_] July 15th 09 05:37 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?


Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?

Steve


No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him so
he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...

Yay, BEER!


Speaking of which, almost got all of the hardware I need to start kegging.

Just wait a frekin' minute! July 15th 09 09:01 PM

Holy Cow!
 
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?

Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?

Steve


No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him
so he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...

Yay, BEER!


Speaking of which, almost got all of the hardware I need to start kegging.



Hummm, don't know what I would do with all that beer. I bought a Heiney
Keg (one of those tiny ones) about a month ago and still have half of it
left...;)

Loogypicker[_2_] July 15th 09 09:38 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Jul 15, 4:01*pm, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:


Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?


It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. *:)


It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?


Bring me up to speed. *I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. *Is Harry no longer with us?


Steve


No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him
so he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...


Yay, BEER!


Speaking of which, almost got all of the hardware I need to start kegging.


Hummm, don't know what I would do with all that beer. I bought a Heiney
Keg (one of those tiny ones) about a month ago and still have half of it
left...;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, for one, in the co2 environment, it'll keep damned near forever,
plus, I keg half and bottle half mostly to give away. Add to that I
belong to a brew club, and we have poker/billiards get togethers, and
we have a pool that people like to come visit, and you know the rest!

Just wait a frekin' minute! July 15th 09 10:02 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jul 15, 4:01 pm, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?
It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)
It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?
Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?
Steve
No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him
so he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...
Yay, BEER!
Speaking of which, almost got all of the hardware I need to start kegging.

Hummm, don't know what I would do with all that beer. I bought a Heiney
Keg (one of those tiny ones) about a month ago and still have half of it
left...;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, for one, in the co2 environment, it'll keep damned near forever,
plus, I keg half and bottle half mostly to give away. Add to that I
belong to a brew club, and we have poker/billiards get togethers, and
we have a pool that people like to come visit, and you know the rest!


I really miss our club. We would gather around the brewhouse (special
built on the Hop River in CT) and taste each others beers, talk, eat,
and you know the rest;) The guy who owned the place up and died young
last year and the club never really stayed together..

Just John Again July 15th 09 10:30 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:08:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John Again wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........


Seems to be a quite peaceful day. H the K is going unanswered, for the
most part, and the political crap is way down.

Plus, I got a new drive shaft in my 4Runner this morning. And, all my
change was left in my glove box.

Lastly, I get to go get my boat out of the shop right now!

Bye.
--

John H


What happened to the drive shaft?


It would bind, and then it would 'unbind' when I stopped. This was
intermittent, maybe once every 5-8 stops. When it 'unbound', it would
slide forword on its splines and stop. This felt like I was getting
rear-ended. It's not an uncommon problem.

Some other folks whining: http://tinyurl.com/ljm6od

I guess I've got a decent dealer. The shop foreman explained the
problem to me and ordered a new shaft.
--

John H

SteveB[_2_] July 15th 09 11:27 PM

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"NotNow" wrote in message
...
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?

It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)

It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?


Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and just
doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?

Steve


We should be so lucky! Harry can't leave this place, it feeds his
narcissism. BUT, most of us have him filtered now, except for Don, and
others have been asked to quit quoting him, so we don't see it, and
they've been gracious enough to do so!


I think I read two of his posts after arrival here.



Zombie of Woodstock July 16th 09 03:27 AM

Holy Cow!
 
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:02:06 -0400, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:

Loogypicker wrote:
On Jul 15, 4:01 pm, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?
It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)
It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?
Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?
Steve
No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him
so he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...
Yay, BEER!
Speaking of which, almost got all of the hardware I need to start kegging.
Hummm, don't know what I would do with all that beer. I bought a Heiney
Keg (one of those tiny ones) about a month ago and still have half of it
left...;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, for one, in the co2 environment, it'll keep damned near forever,
plus, I keg half and bottle half mostly to give away. Add to that I
belong to a brew club, and we have poker/billiards get togethers, and
we have a pool that people like to come visit, and you know the rest!


I really miss our club. We would gather around the brewhouse (special
built on the Hop River in CT) and taste each others beers, talk, eat,
and you know the rest;) The guy who owned the place up and died young
last year and the club never really stayed together..


Huh? That's a trail through the state park.

Just wait a frekin' minute! July 16th 09 04:32 AM

Holy Cow!
 
Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:02:06 -0400, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:

Loogypicker wrote:
On Jul 15, 4:01 pm, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?
It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)
It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?
Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?
Steve
No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him
so he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...
Yay, BEER!
Speaking of which, almost got all of the hardware I need to start kegging.
Hummm, don't know what I would do with all that beer. I bought a Heiney
Keg (one of those tiny ones) about a month ago and still have half of it
left...;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Well, for one, in the co2 environment, it'll keep damned near forever,
plus, I keg half and bottle half mostly to give away. Add to that I
belong to a brew club, and we have poker/billiards get togethers, and
we have a pool that people like to come visit, and you know the rest!

I really miss our club. We would gather around the brewhouse (special
built on the Hop River in CT) and taste each others beers, talk, eat,
and you know the rest;) The guy who owned the place up and died young
last year and the club never really stayed together..


Huh? That's a trail through the state park.

He was right on route 6 in the hopyard...

NotNow[_2_] July 16th 09 12:47 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Jul 15, 4:01 pm, "Just wait a frekin' minute!"
wrote:
NotNow wrote:
Just wait a frekin' minute! wrote:
SteveB wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow
wrote:
Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and
Harry wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Huh?
It's been quiet since late yesterday evening - we've all signed a
peace agreement - well a cease fire anyway. :)
It's been very pleasant the past telve hours or so.
Good deal! I don't see Harry's crap anymore, did he sign up too?
Bring me up to speed. I've been up to my cabin, float fishing, and
just doing IMPORTANT things. Is Harry no longer with us?
Steve
No, I guess he is still there but most of us (the worst bait takers)
started using our filters and the others finally stopped quoting him
so he is pretty much out of the loop, for now...
Yay, BEER!
Speaking of which, almost got all of the hardware I need to start
kegging.
Hummm, don't know what I would do with all that beer. I bought a Heiney
Keg (one of those tiny ones) about a month ago and still have half of it
left...;)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, for one, in the co2 environment, it'll keep damned near forever,
plus, I keg half and bottle half mostly to give away. Add to that I
belong to a brew club, and we have poker/billiards get togethers, and
we have a pool that people like to come visit, and you know the rest!


I really miss our club. We would gather around the brewhouse (special
built on the Hop River in CT) and taste each others beers, talk, eat,
and you know the rest;) The guy who owned the place up and died young
last year and the club never really stayed together..


That's too bad. I really enjoy our club, also. We are soon going to make
a big bad brewing system to do group brews. We're thinking in the fifty
gallon range, we've got quite a few members.

NotNow[_2_] July 16th 09 12:48 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Just John Again wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:08:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John Again wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Seems to be a quite peaceful day. H the K is going unanswered, for the
most part, and the political crap is way down.

Plus, I got a new drive shaft in my 4Runner this morning. And, all my
change was left in my glove box.

Lastly, I get to go get my boat out of the shop right now!

Bye.
--

John H

What happened to the drive shaft?


It would bind, and then it would 'unbind' when I stopped. This was
intermittent, maybe once every 5-8 stops. When it 'unbound', it would
slide forword on its splines and stop. This felt like I was getting
rear-ended. It's not an uncommon problem.

Some other folks whining: http://tinyurl.com/ljm6od

I guess I've got a decent dealer. The shop foreman explained the
problem to me and ordered a new shaft.
--

John H


The link didn't seem to work for me. But, I'm wondering why it would be
the driveshaft itself instead of the universals?

Just John Again July 16th 09 12:53 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:48:43 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John Again wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:08:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Just John Again wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:20:35 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Opened up my newsreader this morning, and 90% political crap and Harry
wasn't even the worst instigator..........
Seems to be a quite peaceful day. H the K is going unanswered, for the
most part, and the political crap is way down.

Plus, I got a new drive shaft in my 4Runner this morning. And, all my
change was left in my glove box.

Lastly, I get to go get my boat out of the shop right now!

Bye.
--

John H
What happened to the drive shaft?


It would bind, and then it would 'unbind' when I stopped. This was
intermittent, maybe once every 5-8 stops. When it 'unbound', it would
slide forword on its splines and stop. This felt like I was getting
rear-ended. It's not an uncommon problem.

Some other folks whining: http://tinyurl.com/ljm6od

I guess I've got a decent dealer. The shop foreman explained the
problem to me and ordered a new shaft.
--

John H


The link didn't seem to work for me. But, I'm wondering why it would be
the driveshaft itself instead of the universals?


The driveshaft slides on splines. It's supposed to slide back and
forth to allow for movement of the final drive. It's when it doesn't
just slide that the problem develops.
--

John H

RG July 17th 09 03:09 PM

Holy Cow!
 

The link didn't seem to work for me. But, I'm wondering why it would be
the driveshaft itself instead of the universals?


The drive shaft has a slip yoke that is supposed to slide smoothly fore and
aft. If it binds, you can get a latent clunk when it eventually frees up,
usually after a hard stop. I had the issue with my F250 and it was solved
with lubrication. I also had the issue with my Lexus GX 470, and it was
solved by replacing the driveshaft with a newer designed unit. Like John
said, it's a very common problem on the 4Runners and GX 470 (same
drivetrain). Lexus has a TSB on it and when I took mine in for its 5000
mile service, the dealer performed the TSB at my request, with no charge and
no hassle. By 5000 miles, mine was just starting to show signs of the
clunk. No problem since the driveshaft was replaced.



NotNow[_2_] July 17th 09 03:24 PM

Holy Cow!
 
RG wrote:
The link didn't seem to work for me. But, I'm wondering why it would be
the driveshaft itself instead of the universals?


The drive shaft has a slip yoke that is supposed to slide smoothly fore and
aft. If it binds, you can get a latent clunk when it eventually frees up,
usually after a hard stop. I had the issue with my F250 and it was solved
with lubrication. I also had the issue with my Lexus GX 470, and it was
solved by replacing the driveshaft with a newer designed unit. Like John
said, it's a very common problem on the 4Runners and GX 470 (same
drivetrain). Lexus has a TSB on it and when I took mine in for its 5000
mile service, the dealer performed the TSB at my request, with no charge and
no hassle. By 5000 miles, mine was just starting to show signs of the
clunk. No problem since the driveshaft was replaced.


So it's binding on the transmission output shaft splines? Interesting.
I've never had one do that, but then again, I've never owned a Toyota.

RG July 17th 09 03:36 PM

Holy Cow!
 

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
RG wrote:
The link didn't seem to work for me. But, I'm wondering why it would be
the driveshaft itself instead of the universals?


The drive shaft has a slip yoke that is supposed to slide smoothly fore
and aft. If it binds, you can get a latent clunk when it eventually
frees up, usually after a hard stop. I had the issue with my F250 and it
was solved with lubrication. I also had the issue with my Lexus GX 470,
and it was solved by replacing the driveshaft with a newer designed unit.
Like John said, it's a very common problem on the 4Runners and GX 470
(same drivetrain). Lexus has a TSB on it and when I took mine in for its
5000 mile service, the dealer performed the TSB at my request, with no
charge and no hassle. By 5000 miles, mine was just starting to show
signs of the clunk. No problem since the driveshaft was replaced.

So it's binding on the transmission output shaft splines? Interesting.
I've never had one do that, but then again, I've never owned a Toyota.


The slip yoke is a device unto itself with it's own set of splines, so it is
not binding at the output shaft of the trans. And it's not unique to
Toyota. Like I said, I had the same issue on a Ford F250. It's actually a
very common device in driveshaft designs. You can find them on all sorts of
vehicles, from Jeeps to Mustangs and Corvettes. The slip yoke allows the
rear suspension to flex freely without being bound by the drivetrain.



NotNow[_2_] July 17th 09 03:56 PM

Holy Cow!
 
RG wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
RG wrote:
The link didn't seem to work for me. But, I'm wondering why it would be
the driveshaft itself instead of the universals?
The drive shaft has a slip yoke that is supposed to slide smoothly fore
and aft. If it binds, you can get a latent clunk when it eventually
frees up, usually after a hard stop. I had the issue with my F250 and it
was solved with lubrication. I also had the issue with my Lexus GX 470,
and it was solved by replacing the driveshaft with a newer designed unit.
Like John said, it's a very common problem on the 4Runners and GX 470
(same drivetrain). Lexus has a TSB on it and when I took mine in for its
5000 mile service, the dealer performed the TSB at my request, with no
charge and no hassle. By 5000 miles, mine was just starting to show
signs of the clunk. No problem since the driveshaft was replaced.

So it's binding on the transmission output shaft splines? Interesting.
I've never had one do that, but then again, I've never owned a Toyota.


The slip yoke is a device unto itself with it's own set of splines, so it is
not binding at the output shaft of the trans. And it's not unique to
Toyota. Like I said, I had the same issue on a Ford F250. It's actually a
very common device in driveshaft designs. You can find them on all sorts of
vehicles, from Jeeps to Mustangs and Corvettes. The slip yoke allows the
rear suspension to flex freely without being bound by the drivetrain.


Commonly in small rear wheel drive vehicles, it's a one piece
driveshaft. Starting at the rear end, you have a universal, the
driveshaft, another universal, the yoke, which indeed does couple to the
transmission output shaft via splines. This is where the shaft is
allowed to move because of flex in the rear suspension.

Lil' John July 17th 09 04:15 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:09:59 -0700, "RG" wrote:


The link didn't seem to work for me. But, I'm wondering why it would be
the driveshaft itself instead of the universals?


The drive shaft has a slip yoke that is supposed to slide smoothly fore and
aft. If it binds, you can get a latent clunk when it eventually frees up,
usually after a hard stop. I had the issue with my F250 and it was solved
with lubrication. I also had the issue with my Lexus GX 470, and it was
solved by replacing the driveshaft with a newer designed unit. Like John
said, it's a very common problem on the 4Runners and GX 470 (same
drivetrain). Lexus has a TSB on it and when I took mine in for its 5000
mile service, the dealer performed the TSB at my request, with no charge and
no hassle. By 5000 miles, mine was just starting to show signs of the
clunk. No problem since the driveshaft was replaced.


Ditto. No problems yet.
--

John H

RG July 17th 09 04:42 PM

Holy Cow!
 
Commonly in small rear wheel drive vehicles, it's a one piece driveshaft.
Starting at the rear end, you have a universal, the driveshaft, another
universal, the yoke, which indeed does couple to the transmission output
shaft via splines. This is where the shaft is allowed to move because of
flex in the rear suspension.


Yep, that's the more common version of a slip yoke. Like this:

http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/pics/S/slip_yoke.jpg



However, sometimes there is a slip yoke built into the rear of the propeller
shaft. Here's a Ford version:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/article/i...SlipYoke03.jpg

And another on a Jeep Cherokee:

http://polytropia.com/images/cherokee/AxleMount.JPG

The latter two are similar to what John and I have.



NotNow[_2_] July 17th 09 04:54 PM

Holy Cow!
 
RG wrote:
Commonly in small rear wheel drive vehicles, it's a one piece driveshaft.
Starting at the rear end, you have a universal, the driveshaft, another
universal, the yoke, which indeed does couple to the transmission output
shaft via splines. This is where the shaft is allowed to move because of
flex in the rear suspension.


Yep, that's the more common version of a slip yoke. Like this:

http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/pics/S/slip_yoke.jpg



However, sometimes there is a slip yoke built into the rear of the propeller
shaft. Here's a Ford version:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/article/i...SlipYoke03.jpg

And another on a Jeep Cherokee:

http://polytropia.com/images/cherokee/AxleMount.JPG

The latter two are similar to what John and I have.


Gotcha! I wasn't following you for some reason. So the yoke at the rear
differential slides, too? I know it didn't on my Jeep Cherokee (1995).
I'm going to look at my new Dodge truck this evening!

RG July 17th 09 05:03 PM

Holy Cow!
 


Gotcha! I wasn't following you for some reason. So the yoke at the rear
differential slides, too? I know it didn't on my Jeep Cherokee (1995). I'm
going to look at my new Dodge truck this evening!


Yep, it slides and can bind, and when it binds and then lets loose, you get
the clunk.



H the K July 17th 09 05:07 PM

Holy Cow!
 
RG wrote:

Gotcha! I wasn't following you for some reason. So the yoke at the rear
differential slides, too? I know it didn't on my Jeep Cherokee (1995). I'm
going to look at my new Dodge truck this evening!


Yep, it slides and can bind, and when it binds and then lets loose, you get
the clunk.




What happens in your bedroom should stay in your bedroom.

Lil' John July 17th 09 05:16 PM

Holy Cow!
 
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:03:45 -0700, "RG" wrote:



Gotcha! I wasn't following you for some reason. So the yoke at the rear
differential slides, too? I know it didn't on my Jeep Cherokee (1995). I'm
going to look at my new Dodge truck this evening!


Yep, it slides and can bind, and when it binds and then lets loose, you get
the clunk.


And the clunk always makes me look in the rear view to see who just
rear ended me - albeit softly!
--

John H

NotNow[_2_] July 17th 09 06:03 PM

Holy Cow!
 
RG wrote:

Gotcha! I wasn't following you for some reason. So the yoke at the rear
differential slides, too? I know it didn't on my Jeep Cherokee (1995). I'm
going to look at my new Dodge truck this evening!


Yep, it slides and can bind, and when it binds and then lets loose, you get
the clunk.


Of all the vehicles I've owned that were rear wheel, or four wheel
drive, none of them had slip splines at the rear differential.


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