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Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family
By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt – Democrat – Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy – Democrat – U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt – Democrat – Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy – Democrat – U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? |
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:36:46 -0400, HK wrote:
Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. Yes, that's what my family does too. We don't send a card or invite them for dinner. We give money. Family *values* indeed. What's the value or your family? |
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:36:46 -0400, HK wrote: Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. Yes, that's what my family does too. We don't send a card or invite them for dinner. We give money. Family *values* indeed. What's the value or your family? You know what really must burn the Republi-scum? The political family with the strongest family values now occupies the white house...a husband and wife devoted to each other and their kids, and not a breath of sexual scandal. Even worse for the Republi-scum...the Obamas are not overtly religious. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt – Democrat – Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy – Democrat – U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. WAFA |
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Lu Powell wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt – Democrat – Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy – Democrat – U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. WAFA Whoosh. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... jps wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:36:46 -0400, HK wrote: Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. Yes, that's what my family does too. We don't send a card or invite them for dinner. We give money. Family *values* indeed. What's the value or your family? You know what really must burn the Republi-scum? The political family with the strongest family values now occupies the white house...a husband and wife devoted to each other and their kids, and not a breath of sexual scandal. Even worse for the Republi-scum...the Obamas are not overtly religious. And smokes like a chimney. |
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HK wrote:
Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt – Democrat – Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy – Democrat – U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? So what about the "It takes a village" bull****, WAFA? |
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Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Yessiree Krausie. Speaking of family values, jus' wondering why your name isn't on the deed to home you live in? Your wifelet deem you to be deficient in "family values?" |
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:36:46 -0400, HK wrote:
(snipped stuff about Ensign) You aren't too sharp. You haven't posted a link to a pic of Cindy Hampton. She bears a resemblance to somebody you are obsessed with. I guess that "can't see the forest for the trees" saw has some validity. --Vic |
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton — who was an then a campaign aide — the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt – Democrat – Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank – Democrat – U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman’s Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy – Democrat – U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. There are as many republican scandals each year as there are dem scandals per presidential term. Foley - Gay perv hitting on congressional pages Cunningham - On the take personally Craig - Gay perv into public bathroom sex Gannon - Gay perv/prostitute Abramoff - Influence peddler Bob May - Congressman, Abramoff assoc. in jail Gonzales - Asswipe liar, destroyer of constitution Vitter - Family values prostitute junkie "powder my ass" Sanford - Family values philanderer, run at the mouth liar Ensign - Family values philanderer and bribery specialist Libby - Liar and scumbag Allen - Bigot caught red-handed DeLay - Scum bag caught shifting funds illegally Bob Allen - Offered burly cop $20 to blow him Glen Murphy - Young Rep Chair blew unconsenting overnight guest Rick Renzi - Extortion, fraud, money laundering Richard Curtis - Soliciting gay sex John Dolittle - Representative, numerous ties to Abramoff Ted Stevens - Forgot to mention $100,000 gift house renovation Sarah Palin - Expensegate, troopergate, quittergate John McCain - Picked Palin, faux-suspended campaign This is without working at it. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton - who was an then a campaign aide - the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. There are as many republican scandals each year as there are dem scandals per presidential term. Foley - Gay perv hitting on congressional pages Cunningham - On the take personally Craig - Gay perv into public bathroom sex Gannon - Gay perv/prostitute Abramoff - Influence peddler Bob May - Congressman, Abramoff assoc. in jail Gonzales - Asswipe liar, destroyer of constitution Vitter - Family values prostitute junkie "powder my ass" Sanford - Family values philanderer, run at the mouth liar Ensign - Family values philanderer and bribery specialist Libby - Liar and scumbag Allen - Bigot caught red-handed DeLay - Scum bag caught shifting funds illegally Bob Allen - Offered burly cop $20 to blow him Glen Murphy - Young Rep Chair blew unconsenting overnight guest Rick Renzi - Extortion, fraud, money laundering Richard Curtis - Soliciting gay sex John Dolittle - Representative, numerous ties to Abramoff Ted Stevens - Forgot to mention $100,000 gift house renovation Sarah Palin - Expensegate, troopergate, quittergate John McCain - Picked Palin, faux-suspended campaign This is without working at it. You are right. Thanks for making my point. Any Google search turns up Dem. and Rep. scandals galore. Harry seems to think hypocritical conservatives are somehow more immoral or corrupt than guys like Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Wm. Jefferson, Bill ("I did not have sex with that woman") Clinton et al. The trite old "family values" rationale doesn't hold water. In the end, it's a straw dog. He keeps beating a dead horse, much to his discredit. "Let him without sin...." Surely you know the rest. |
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Lu Powell wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton - who was an then a campaign aide - the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. There are as many republican scandals each year as there are dem scandals per presidential term. Foley - Gay perv hitting on congressional pages Cunningham - On the take personally Craig - Gay perv into public bathroom sex Gannon - Gay perv/prostitute Abramoff - Influence peddler Bob May - Congressman, Abramoff assoc. in jail Gonzales - Asswipe liar, destroyer of constitution Vitter - Family values prostitute junkie "powder my ass" Sanford - Family values philanderer, run at the mouth liar Ensign - Family values philanderer and bribery specialist Libby - Liar and scumbag Allen - Bigot caught red-handed DeLay - Scum bag caught shifting funds illegally Bob Allen - Offered burly cop $20 to blow him Glen Murphy - Young Rep Chair blew unconsenting overnight guest Rick Renzi - Extortion, fraud, money laundering Richard Curtis - Soliciting gay sex John Dolittle - Representative, numerous ties to Abramoff Ted Stevens - Forgot to mention $100,000 gift house renovation Sarah Palin - Expensegate, troopergate, quittergate John McCain - Picked Palin, faux-suspended campaign This is without working at it. You are right. Thanks for making my point. Any Google search turns up Dem. and Rep. scandals galore. Harry seems to think hypocritical conservatives are somehow more immoral or corrupt than guys like Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Wm. Jefferson, Bill ("I did not have sex with that woman") Clinton et al. The trite old "family values" rationale doesn't hold water. In the end, it's a straw dog. He keeps beating a dead horse, much to his discredit. "Let him without sin...." Surely you know the rest. You still don't get it, Lu-ser. |
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On Jul 9, 9:29*pm, HK wrote:
You still don't get it, Lu-ser. Lawd God, Krausie, you're the one who "still don't get it." It's YOUR children who have disowned you. Why? |
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell"
wrote: "jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton - who was an then a campaign aide - the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. There are as many republican scandals each year as there are dem scandals per presidential term. Foley - Gay perv hitting on congressional pages Cunningham - On the take personally Craig - Gay perv into public bathroom sex Gannon - Gay perv/prostitute Abramoff - Influence peddler Bob May - Congressman, Abramoff assoc. in jail Gonzales - Asswipe liar, destroyer of constitution Vitter - Family values prostitute junkie "powder my ass" Sanford - Family values philanderer, run at the mouth liar Ensign - Family values philanderer and bribery specialist Libby - Liar and scumbag Allen - Bigot caught red-handed DeLay - Scum bag caught shifting funds illegally Bob Allen - Offered burly cop $20 to blow him Glen Murphy - Young Rep Chair blew unconsenting overnight guest Rick Renzi - Extortion, fraud, money laundering Richard Curtis - Soliciting gay sex John Dolittle - Representative, numerous ties to Abramoff Ted Stevens - Forgot to mention $100,000 gift house renovation Sarah Palin - Expensegate, troopergate, quittergate John McCain - Picked Palin, faux-suspended campaign This is without working at it. You are right. Thanks for making my point. Any Google search turns up Dem. and Rep. scandals galore. Harry seems to think hypocritical conservatives are somehow more immoral or corrupt than guys like Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Wm. Jefferson, Bill ("I did not have sex with that woman") Clinton et al. The trite old "family values" rationale doesn't hold water. In the end, it's a straw dog. He keeps beating a dead horse, much to his discredit. "Let him without sin...." Surely you know the rest. Hmmmm... My point was that there are far more Republican scandals. Your scale is 40 years, mine is 4. Thanks for making my point. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton - who was an then a campaign aide - the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. There are as many republican scandals each year as there are dem scandals per presidential term. Foley - Gay perv hitting on congressional pages Cunningham - On the take personally Craig - Gay perv into public bathroom sex Gannon - Gay perv/prostitute Abramoff - Influence peddler Bob May - Congressman, Abramoff assoc. in jail Gonzales - Asswipe liar, destroyer of constitution Vitter - Family values prostitute junkie "powder my ass" Sanford - Family values philanderer, run at the mouth liar Ensign - Family values philanderer and bribery specialist Libby - Liar and scumbag Allen - Bigot caught red-handed DeLay - Scum bag caught shifting funds illegally Bob Allen - Offered burly cop $20 to blow him Glen Murphy - Young Rep Chair blew unconsenting overnight guest Rick Renzi - Extortion, fraud, money laundering Richard Curtis - Soliciting gay sex John Dolittle - Representative, numerous ties to Abramoff Ted Stevens - Forgot to mention $100,000 gift house renovation Sarah Palin - Expensegate, troopergate, quittergate John McCain - Picked Palin, faux-suspended campaign This is without working at it. You are right. Thanks for making my point. Any Google search turns up Dem. and Rep. scandals galore. Harry seems to think hypocritical conservatives are somehow more immoral or corrupt than guys like Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Wm. Jefferson, Bill ("I did not have sex with that woman") Clinton et al. The trite old "family values" rationale doesn't hold water. In the end, it's a straw dog. He keeps beating a dead horse, much to his discredit. "Let him without sin...." Surely you know the rest. Hmmmm... My point was that there are far more Republican scandals. Your scale is 40 years, mine is 4. Thanks for making my point. *Any* number of scandals on either side is unacceptable. |
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:29 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family By: Manu Raju Politico July 9, 2009 03:11 PM EST U.S. Sen. John Ensign's attorney acknowledged Thursday that the Nevada Republican's parents paid nearly $100,000 to the family of his mistress around the time she and her husband left his staff in April 2008. Paul Coggins, Ensign's attorney, said in a statement that the senator gave Doug Hampton, Cindy Hampton and their two children gifts worth $96,000 and that "each gift was limited to $12,000." "The payments were made as gifts, accepted as gifts and complied with tax rules governing gifts," Coggins said. Coggins said that after Ensign told his parents about his affair with Cindy Hampton - who was an then a campaign aide - the senator's parents "decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime family friends during a difficult time. "The gifts are consistent with a pattern of generosity by the Ensign family to the Hamptons and others." Ensign's attorney said that none of the gifts came from campaign or official funds and were not related to his official duties, saying that he complied with all ethics laws. His disclosure comes as the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington called on the Justice Department to investigate potential criminal wrongdoing of Ensign reportedly giving Cindy Hampton more than $25,000 in a severance package. The group says that under federal law, failing to report contributions of more than $25,000 can result in five years in jail. - - - Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat - Oregon governor. Admitted to having an illegal sexual relationship with a 14-year-old teenager while he was serving as Mayor of Portland. Barney Frank - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Massachusetts. Admitted to having paid Stephen L. Gobie, a male prostitute, for sex and subsequently hiring Gobie as his personal assistant. Gobie used the congressman's Washington apartment for prostitution. Former New Jersey Governor James McGreevey resigned his office and publically admitted his relationship with his croney/lover Golan Cipel who resigned from a $100,000/yr job created by McGreevey. Edward Kennedy - Democrat - U. S. Senator from Massachusetts. Pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, after his car plunged off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island killing passenger Mary Jo Kopechne. Hehehe...it just goes on and on and on and on.... You don't get it, lu-ser. It is the Republicans who stand on the pile of crap mountain called "family values," proclaim themselves virtuous, and tell others they, too, should lead "proper" lives. That's why these wonderful stories of Republican "misbehaving" has such a long half-life, as it were. Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, Craig - all right-wingers, all "family values" bull****ters, all hypocrites. Try again...and see if your peabrain can figure it all out, eh? You are the one that doesn't get it. For every Republican scandal, there are myriad demo scandals. The "family values" argument is a straw dog that you use to justify your muckraking. You post one about Republicans, I'll post one or more about Democrats. Fair enough? Family values be damned. That's the democratic way. There are as many republican scandals each year as there are dem scandals per presidential term. Foley - Gay perv hitting on congressional pages Cunningham - On the take personally Craig - Gay perv into public bathroom sex Gannon - Gay perv/prostitute Abramoff - Influence peddler Bob May - Congressman, Abramoff assoc. in jail Gonzales - Asswipe liar, destroyer of constitution Vitter - Family values prostitute junkie "powder my ass" Sanford - Family values philanderer, run at the mouth liar Ensign - Family values philanderer and bribery specialist Libby - Liar and scumbag Allen - Bigot caught red-handed DeLay - Scum bag caught shifting funds illegally Bob Allen - Offered burly cop $20 to blow him Glen Murphy - Young Rep Chair blew unconsenting overnight guest Rick Renzi - Extortion, fraud, money laundering Richard Curtis - Soliciting gay sex John Dolittle - Representative, numerous ties to Abramoff Ted Stevens - Forgot to mention $100,000 gift house renovation Sarah Palin - Expensegate, troopergate, quittergate John McCain - Picked Palin, faux-suspended campaign This is without working at it. You are right. Thanks for making my point. Any Google search turns up Dem. and Rep. scandals galore. Harry seems to think hypocritical conservatives are somehow more immoral or corrupt than guys like Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Wm. Jefferson, Bill ("I did not have sex with that woman") Clinton et al. The trite old "family values" rationale doesn't hold water. In the end, it's a straw dog. He keeps beating a dead horse, much to his discredit. "Let him without sin...." Surely you know the rest. Hmmmm... My point was that there are far more Republican scandals. Your scale is 40 years, mine is 4. Thanks for making my point. *Any* number of scandals on either side is unacceptable. Surely. But that wasn't my point. My point is the ratio between the parties. |
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"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:29 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "jps" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message m... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family But that wasn't my point. My point is the ratio between the parties. Oh, I see. I'll give you 20 sex deviate conservatives for 10 bribe-taking, womanizing, gay prostituting liberals. Neither side has a claim on proper behavior. To pretend otherwise is foolish. Don't bother to reply. We've thrashed this thread to the point of ridiculousness. |
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Lu Powell wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:29 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family But that wasn't my point. My point is the ratio between the parties. Oh, I see. I'll give you 20 sex deviate conservatives for 10 bribe-taking, womanizing, gay prostituting liberals. Neither side has a claim on proper behavior. To pretend otherwise is foolish. Don't bother to reply. We've thrashed this thread to the point of ridiculousness. Naw. Who is going to be the next hypocritical right-wing politician or preacher who tells us to behave sexually while he isn't? |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Lu Powell wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:29 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family But that wasn't my point. My point is the ratio between the parties. Oh, I see. I'll give you 20 sex deviate conservatives for 10 bribe-taking, womanizing, gay prostituting liberals. Neither side has a claim on proper behavior. To pretend otherwise is foolish. Don't bother to reply. We've thrashed this thread to the point of ridiculousness. Naw. Who is going to be the next hypocritical right-wing politician or preacher who tells us to behave sexually while he isn't? How about the Rev. Jesse Jackson, erstwhile presidential candidate, general gadfly, and father of the Democratic Congressman from Illinois? |
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Lu Powell wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Lu Powell wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:29 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family But that wasn't my point. My point is the ratio between the parties. Oh, I see. I'll give you 20 sex deviate conservatives for 10 bribe-taking, womanizing, gay prostituting liberals. Neither side has a claim on proper behavior. To pretend otherwise is foolish. Don't bother to reply. We've thrashed this thread to the point of ridiculousness. Naw. Who is going to be the next hypocritical right-wing politician or preacher who tells us to behave sexually while he isn't? How about the Rev. Jesse Jackson, erstwhile presidential candidate, general gadfly, and father of the Democratic Congressman from Illinois? I wasn't aware that Jackson has been out in the public lately, condemning the lack of marital morality among national politicians while following a different set of rules himself. You still don't get it, Lu-ser. I don't give a damn who Republican politicians **** on a personal basis. It's their penchant for castigating others for behaving as they do sexually that I find hypocritical...and so very Republican. Thus, long lists of Republicans/Democrats don't matter to me. It's the preaching of Republican hypocrites on matters sexual I'm discussing. |
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:07:05 -0400, HK wrote:
Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Lu Powell wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:29 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family But that wasn't my point. My point is the ratio between the parties. Oh, I see. I'll give you 20 sex deviate conservatives for 10 bribe-taking, womanizing, gay prostituting liberals. Neither side has a claim on proper behavior. To pretend otherwise is foolish. Don't bother to reply. We've thrashed this thread to the point of ridiculousness. Naw. Who is going to be the next hypocritical right-wing politician or preacher who tells us to behave sexually while he isn't? How about the Rev. Jesse Jackson, erstwhile presidential candidate, general gadfly, and father of the Democratic Congressman from Illinois? I wasn't aware that Jackson has been out in the public lately, condemning the lack of marital morality among national politicians while following a different set of rules himself. You still don't get it, Lu-ser. I don't give a damn who Republican politicians **** on a personal basis. It's their penchant for castigating others for behaving as they do sexually that I find hypocritical...and so very Republican. Thus, long lists of Republicans/Democrats don't matter to me. It's the preaching of Republican hypocrites on matters sexual I'm discussing. If a Republican or Republicans subscribe to a particular set of moral strictures, tenets, precepts, and disapprobations, then those persons have a system by which a violator of those strictures can be judged for having done so. If there is no value system, there can be no condemnation. If one can condemn hypocrisy, one has a value system and is summarily evaluated by that same system. To accuse Republicans of hypocrisy is itself a hypocrisy. No Republican can take another Republican to task if the other has crossed the ethical line that Republicans generally adhere to. The argument decrying Republican hypocrisy is specious at best. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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GC Boater wrote:
Krausie wrote: Hehehe...it just goes on and on for these family value Republicans. Yessiree Krausie. Speaking of family values, jus' wondering why your name isn't on the deed to home you live in? Your wifelet deem you to be deficient in "family values?" You know that is true, right? |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Lu Powell wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:51:29 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:46:52 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:06:17 -0400, "Lu Powell" wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Lu Powell wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Ensign paid $96k to mistress's family But that wasn't my point. My point is the ratio between the parties. Oh, I see. I'll give you 20 sex deviate conservatives for 10 bribe-taking, womanizing, gay prostituting liberals. Neither side has a claim on proper behavior. To pretend otherwise is foolish. Don't bother to reply. We've thrashed this thread to the point of ridiculousness. Naw. Who is going to be the next hypocritical right-wing politician or preacher who tells us to behave sexually while he isn't? Sort of like a President and Congress that wants to make the military smoke free, but not Legislative Branch people or Executive Branch people? Liberals with a government health plan for the masses, but exempt themselves? That is HYPOCRITICAL! |
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:19:15 -0700, jps wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:23:44 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, wrote: Refer to previous post for previous postings If a Republican or Republicans subscribe to a particular set of moral strictures, tenets, precepts, and disapprobations, then those persons have a system by which a violator of those strictures can be judged for having done so. If there is no value system, there can be no condemnation. If one can condemn hypocrisy, one has a value system and is summarily evaluated by that same system. To accuse Republicans of hypocrisy is itself a hypocrisy. No Republican can take another Republican to task if the other has crossed the ethical line that Republicans generally adhere to. Correction: No Republican can take another Republican to task if there is no ethical line (such as the moral suasion that Republicans generally adhere to) for the other to cross. You're arguing on behalf of that ethical line, right? It just so happens that for many candidates drawing that ethical line is a source for money and votes. It's not the ethical line that they're being castigated for, it's the cynical use of it for advantage and profit. Right? If the focii of the argument were simply avaricious candidates and venal politico's, then that discussion might have merit. In an examination of value systems for groups of persons of a particular political persuasion, it doesn't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:04:33 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:19:15 -0700, jps wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:23:44 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, wrote: Refer to previous post for previous postings If a Republican or Republicans subscribe to a particular set of moral strictures, tenets, precepts, and disapprobations, then those persons have a system by which a violator of those strictures can be judged for having done so. If there is no value system, there can be no condemnation. If one can condemn hypocrisy, one has a value system and is summarily evaluated by that same system. To accuse Republicans of hypocrisy is itself a hypocrisy. No Republican can take another Republican to task if the other has crossed the ethical line that Republicans generally adhere to. Correction: No Republican can take another Republican to task if there is no ethical line (such as the moral suasion that Republicans generally adhere to) for the other to cross. You're arguing on behalf of that ethical line, right? It just so happens that for many candidates drawing that ethical line is a source for money and votes. It's not the ethical line that they're being castigated for, it's the cynical use of it for advantage and profit. Right? If the focii of the argument were simply avaricious candidates and venal politico's, then that discussion might have merit. In an examination of value systems for groups of persons of a particular political persuasion, it doesn't. In your opinion. |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: snipped for brevity |If a Republican or Republicans subscribe to a particular set of moral |strictures, tenets, precepts, and disapprobations, then those persons |have a system by which a violator of those strictures can be judged |for having done so. If there is no value system, there can be no |condemnation. If one can condemn hypocrisy, one has a value system |and is summarily evaluated by that same system. To accuse Republicans |of hypocrisy is itself a hypocrisy. No Republican can take another |Republican to task if the other has crossed the ethical line that |Republicans generally adhere to. The argument decrying Republican |hypocrisy is specious at best. Hmmm.... let's see. That is really some "special" logic! First, let's state the definition of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy typically comes from a desire to mask actual motives or feelings, or from a person's inability to conform to standards they espouse. So.... nerdo-crombesians believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees. In addition to this, they loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, define themselves in terms of these principles, and evaluate other people based on their adherence to the nerdo-crombesian value system. Anarchy: An anarchist notes the discrepancy in nerdo-crombesian specific morality vs behavior and condemns the perp for transgressing his own nerdo-crombesian laws. (Do as I say, not as I do?) The anarchist doesn't believe there should be ANY laws, certainly those about climbing trees, but does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Anti-nerdo-crombesians: Anti-nerdo-crombesians generally believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees, but do not loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, nor do they define themselves in terms of these principles, and tend to evaluate other people based criteria not tied so tightly to the Anti-nerdo-crombesian value system. The typical Anti-nerdo-crombesian does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Please return to Logic 101 and retake. Do not pass Go do not collect $200, go directly to Logic 101..... Having a remonstrated problem with hypocrisy is "not loudly proclaiming a superior moral principle," and decrying hypocrisy is not "evaluating other people based on the criteria of 'your' own, inimitable value system"? How convenient. I must commend this poster for submitting such a stellar rebuttal while yet retreating from any efficacious refutation. Definitions for a reasonable dialectic; Hypocrisy - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not. And to help lift this poster out of the domain of pretense and sanctimony (perhaps the poster will be able to determine why this is being included); Abstract: Converse Accident or hasty generalization is the fallacy of drawing a general conclusion based on one or several atypical instances. I. Converse Accident: (hasty generalization) the fallacy of considering certain exceptional cases and generalizing to a rule that fits them alone. Note that the fallacy of converse accident is the opposite of accident. 1. Thus, a general statement is made on the basis of insufficient evidence or on the basis of only a few examples. 1. E.g., "Wow! Did you see that teenager run that red light? Teenage drivers are really pathetic." 2. E.g., The following argument is raised to oppose the view that boys have greater inherent mathematical ability. "When I was four, my father taught me the beauty of numbers, and I have excelled in mathematics ever since. My conclusion? The males who grew up with a high aptitude for math are not spending enough time with their daughters." Nancy Whelan Reese, "Letters," Time, (Vol. 117, No. 1), 6. 2. The generalization is sometimes made on the basis of carelessly selected evidence 1. E.g., "I interviewed ten people on Main Street in Greenwood on Friday night, and they all stated they would rather be there than watching TV. I conclude that the folks in Greenwood don't like to watch TV on Friday night." 2. E.g., "As I drove to school this morning, not one car which was turning had its turn signal on. Thus, I conclude that drivers in South Carolina are not trained to drive very well." 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: snipped for brevity |If a Republican or Republicans subscribe to a particular set of moral |strictures, tenets, precepts, and disapprobations, then those persons |have a system by which a violator of those strictures can be judged |for having done so. If there is no value system, there can be no |condemnation. If one can condemn hypocrisy, one has a value system |and is summarily evaluated by that same system. To accuse Republicans |of hypocrisy is itself a hypocrisy. No Republican can take another |Republican to task if the other has crossed the ethical line that |Republicans generally adhere to. The argument decrying Republican |hypocrisy is specious at best. Hmmm.... let's see. That is really some "special" logic! First, let's state the definition of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy typically comes from a desire to mask actual motives or feelings, or from a person's inability to conform to standards they espouse. So.... nerdo-crombesians believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees. In addition to this, they loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, define themselves in terms of these principles, and evaluate other people based on their adherence to the nerdo-crombesian value system. Anarchy: An anarchist notes the discrepancy in nerdo-crombesian specific morality vs behavior and condemns the perp for transgressing his own nerdo-crombesian laws. (Do as I say, not as I do?) The anarchist doesn't believe there should be ANY laws, certainly those about climbing trees, but does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Anti-nerdo-crombesians: Anti-nerdo-crombesians generally believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees, but do not loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, nor do they define themselves in terms of these principles, and tend to evaluate other people based criteria not tied so tightly to the Anti-nerdo-crombesian value system. The typical Anti-nerdo-crombesian does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Please return to Logic 101 and retake. Do not pass Go do not collect $200, go directly to Logic 101..... Having a remonstrated problem with hypocrisy is "not loudly proclaiming a superior moral principle," and decrying hypocrisy is not "evaluating other people based on the criteria of 'your' own, inimitable value system"? How convenient. I must commend this poster for submitting such a stellar rebuttal while yet retreating from any efficacious refutation. Definitions for a reasonable dialectic; Hypocrisy - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not. And to help lift this poster out of the domain of pretense and sanctimony (perhaps the poster will be able to determine why this is being included); Abstract: Converse Accident or hasty generalization is the fallacy of drawing a general conclusion based on one or several atypical instances. I. Converse Accident: (hasty generalization) the fallacy of considering certain exceptional cases and generalizing to a rule that fits them alone. Note that the fallacy of converse accident is the opposite of accident. 1. Thus, a general statement is made on the basis of insufficient evidence or on the basis of only a few examples. 1. E.g., "Wow! Did you see that teenager run that red light? Teenage drivers are really pathetic." 2. E.g., The following argument is raised to oppose the view that boys have greater inherent mathematical ability. "When I was four, my father taught me the beauty of numbers, and I have excelled in mathematics ever since. My conclusion? The males who grew up with a high aptitude for math are not spending enough time with their daughters." Nancy Whelan Reese, "Letters," Time, (Vol. 117, No. 1), 6. 2. The generalization is sometimes made on the basis of carelessly selected evidence 1. E.g., "I interviewed ten people on Main Street in Greenwood on Friday night, and they all stated they would rather be there than watching TV. I conclude that the folks in Greenwood don't like to watch TV on Friday night." 2. E.g., "As I drove to school this morning, not one car which was turning had its turn signal on. Thus, I conclude that drivers in South Carolina are not trained to drive very well." 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: snipped for brevity |If a Republican or Republicans subscribe to a particular set of moral |strictures, tenets, precepts, and disapprobations, then those persons |have a system by which a violator of those strictures can be judged |for having done so. If there is no value system, there can be no |condemnation. If one can condemn hypocrisy, one has a value system |and is summarily evaluated by that same system. To accuse Republicans |of hypocrisy is itself a hypocrisy. No Republican can take another |Republican to task if the other has crossed the ethical line that |Republicans generally adhere to. The argument decrying Republican |hypocrisy is specious at best. Hmmm.... let's see. That is really some "special" logic! First, let's state the definition of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy typically comes from a desire to mask actual motives or feelings, or from a person's inability to conform to standards they espouse. So.... nerdo-crombesians believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees. In addition to this, they loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, define themselves in terms of these principles, and evaluate other people based on their adherence to the nerdo-crombesian value system. Anarchy: An anarchist notes the discrepancy in nerdo-crombesian specific morality vs behavior and condemns the perp for transgressing his own nerdo-crombesian laws. (Do as I say, not as I do?) The anarchist doesn't believe there should be ANY laws, certainly those about climbing trees, but does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Anti-nerdo-crombesians: Anti-nerdo-crombesians generally believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees, but do not loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, nor do they define themselves in terms of these principles, and tend to evaluate other people based criteria not tied so tightly to the Anti-nerdo-crombesian value system. The typical Anti-nerdo-crombesian does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Please return to Logic 101 and retake. Do not pass Go do not collect $200, go directly to Logic 101..... Having a remonstrated problem with hypocrisy is "not loudly proclaiming a superior moral principle," and decrying hypocrisy is not "evaluating other people based on the criteria of 'your' own, inimitable value system"? How convenient. I must commend this poster for submitting such a stellar rebuttal while yet retreating from any efficacious refutation. Definitions for a reasonable dialectic; Hypocrisy - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not. And to help lift this poster out of the domain of pretense and sanctimony (perhaps the poster will be able to determine why this is being included); Abstract: Converse Accident or hasty generalization is the fallacy of drawing a general conclusion based on one or several atypical instances. I. Converse Accident: (hasty generalization) the fallacy of considering certain exceptional cases and generalizing to a rule that fits them alone. Note that the fallacy of converse accident is the opposite of accident. 1. Thus, a general statement is made on the basis of insufficient evidence or on the basis of only a few examples. 1. E.g., "Wow! Did you see that teenager run that red light? Teenage drivers are really pathetic." 2. E.g., The following argument is raised to oppose the view that boys have greater inherent mathematical ability. "When I was four, my father taught me the beauty of numbers, and I have excelled in mathematics ever since. My conclusion? The males who grew up with a high aptitude for math are not spending enough time with their daughters." Nancy Whelan Reese, "Letters," Time, (Vol. 117, No. 1), 6. 2. The generalization is sometimes made on the basis of carelessly selected evidence 1. E.g., "I interviewed ten people on Main Street in Greenwood on Friday night, and they all stated they would rather be there than watching TV. I conclude that the folks in Greenwood don't like to watch TV on Friday night." 2. E.g., "As I drove to school this morning, not one car which was turning had its turn signal on. Thus, I conclude that drivers in South Carolina are not trained to drive very well." 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. I think we can assume there's a subset of Republicans who do value family and hold fast to those values. However, there are also a good many who use the family values association to curry favor with donors and voters while feigning standard "Christian" postures. It seems the closer they get to success and the higher the office, the more likely they are to inflict mortal wounds on themselves. Perhaps it's a crisis of conscience that pushes so many of these liars to eviscerate their own careers. |
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jps wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: snipped for brevity |If a Republican or Republicans subscribe to a particular set of moral |strictures, tenets, precepts, and disapprobations, then those persons |have a system by which a violator of those strictures can be judged |for having done so. If there is no value system, there can be no |condemnation. If one can condemn hypocrisy, one has a value system |and is summarily evaluated by that same system. To accuse Republicans |of hypocrisy is itself a hypocrisy. No Republican can take another |Republican to task if the other has crossed the ethical line that |Republicans generally adhere to. The argument decrying Republican |hypocrisy is specious at best. Hmmm.... let's see. That is really some "special" logic! First, let's state the definition of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy typically comes from a desire to mask actual motives or feelings, or from a person's inability to conform to standards they espouse. So.... nerdo-crombesians believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees. In addition to this, they loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, define themselves in terms of these principles, and evaluate other people based on their adherence to the nerdo-crombesian value system. Anarchy: An anarchist notes the discrepancy in nerdo-crombesian specific morality vs behavior and condemns the perp for transgressing his own nerdo-crombesian laws. (Do as I say, not as I do?) The anarchist doesn't believe there should be ANY laws, certainly those about climbing trees, but does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Anti-nerdo-crombesians: Anti-nerdo-crombesians generally believe that it is morally reprehensible to climb trees, but do not loudly proclaim their superior moral principles, nor do they define themselves in terms of these principles, and tend to evaluate other people based criteria not tied so tightly to the Anti-nerdo-crombesian value system. The typical Anti-nerdo-crombesian does see a problem with "pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have." So that makes him a hypocrite? Please return to Logic 101 and retake. Do not pass Go do not collect $200, go directly to Logic 101..... Having a remonstrated problem with hypocrisy is "not loudly proclaiming a superior moral principle," and decrying hypocrisy is not "evaluating other people based on the criteria of 'your' own, inimitable value system"? How convenient. I must commend this poster for submitting such a stellar rebuttal while yet retreating from any efficacious refutation. Definitions for a reasonable dialectic; Hypocrisy - a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not. And to help lift this poster out of the domain of pretense and sanctimony (perhaps the poster will be able to determine why this is being included); Abstract: Converse Accident or hasty generalization is the fallacy of drawing a general conclusion based on one or several atypical instances. I. Converse Accident: (hasty generalization) the fallacy of considering certain exceptional cases and generalizing to a rule that fits them alone. Note that the fallacy of converse accident is the opposite of accident. 1. Thus, a general statement is made on the basis of insufficient evidence or on the basis of only a few examples. 1. E.g., "Wow! Did you see that teenager run that red light? Teenage drivers are really pathetic." 2. E.g., The following argument is raised to oppose the view that boys have greater inherent mathematical ability. "When I was four, my father taught me the beauty of numbers, and I have excelled in mathematics ever since. My conclusion? The males who grew up with a high aptitude for math are not spending enough time with their daughters." Nancy Whelan Reese, "Letters," Time, (Vol. 117, No. 1), 6. 2. The generalization is sometimes made on the basis of carelessly selected evidence 1. E.g., "I interviewed ten people on Main Street in Greenwood on Friday night, and they all stated they would rather be there than watching TV. I conclude that the folks in Greenwood don't like to watch TV on Friday night." 2. E.g., "As I drove to school this morning, not one car which was turning had its turn signal on. Thus, I conclude that drivers in South Carolina are not trained to drive very well." 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. I think we can assume there's a subset of Republicans who do value family and hold fast to those values. However, there are also a good many who use the family values association to curry favor with donors and voters while feigning standard "Christian" postures. It seems the closer they get to success and the higher the office, the more likely they are to inflict mortal wounds on themselves. Perhaps it's a crisis of conscience that pushes so many of these liars to eviscerate their own careers. I'm sure there are Republicans who value family, as there are Democrats who value family. But there really are no "institutional" Republican Party or Democratic Party family values. The Republican Party "leadership" uses the phrase because it believes it differentiates them from the Democrats. With all the scandals involving top Republicans, they're only fooling themselves. My life's experience tells me that the more someone professes the typical right-wing interpretation of "christian values," the less likely they are to follow the teachings of jesus. |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: refer to previous post for previously posted 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. Solipsism suits you, you little nym-shifter you. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: refer to previous post for previously posted 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. Solipsism suits you, you little nym-shifter you. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Better to be solipsistically exuberant than bogged down by the hypocrisy of Republican "family values." I think Daedalus said that before taking off from Crete. Maybe not. |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:57:36 -0400, H the K
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: refer to previous post for previously posted 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. Solipsism suits you, you little nym-shifter you. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Better to be solipsistically exuberant than bogged down by the hypocrisy of Republican "family values." I think Daedalus said that before taking off from Crete. Maybe not. Not. It was Leo Gorcey :) -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:17:32 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:57:36 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: refer to previous post for previously posted 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. Solipsism suits you, you little nym-shifter you. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Better to be solipsistically exuberant than bogged down by the hypocrisy of Republican "family values." I think Daedalus said that before taking off from Crete. Maybe not. Not. It was Leo Gorcey :) Jesus Christ, take it to a men's room stall you two. |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:57:36 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: refer to previous post for previously posted 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. Solipsism suits you, you little nym-shifter you. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Better to be solipsistically exuberant than bogged down by the hypocrisy of Republican "family values." I think Daedalus said that before taking off from Crete. Maybe not. Not. It was Leo Gorcey :) I remember Leo and the rest of the boys from the 25-cent Saturday matinees...George W. Bush took his place as the king of the malaprop. |
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:35:10 -0400, H the K
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:57:36 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: refer to previous post for previously posted 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. Solipsism suits you, you little nym-shifter you. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Better to be solipsistically exuberant than bogged down by the hypocrisy of Republican "family values." I think Daedalus said that before taking off from Crete. Maybe not. Not. It was Leo Gorcey :) I remember Leo and the rest of the boys from the 25-cent Saturday matinees...George W. Bush took his place as the king of the malaprop. Actually, I'm not quite that old. I remember watching the Bowery Boys on saturday afternoon network television when I was a kid. To be honest, and I mean no offense, your "solipsisticaly exuberant" phrase brought Slip Mahoney to mind. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:27:57 -0700, jps wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:17:32 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:57:36 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:34:24 -0400, H the K wrote: wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:08:46 -0400, Gene Kearns wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:18:04 -0500, penned the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats: refer to previous post for previously posted 3. E.g., "The induction problem forever haunts us. How many instances of a class must be observed before one can be really sure? Having experience two uncoordinated woman-drivers, am I justified in making a generalization about woman-drivers? (For too many man, a sampling of two seems to justify such a generalization. Women, of course, never make this sort of error.)" James L. Christian, Philosophy (HBJ College, 1998). -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access The short answer is far simpler: There are no Republican family values. Solipsism suits you, you little nym-shifter you. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Better to be solipsistically exuberant than bogged down by the hypocrisy of Republican "family values." I think Daedalus said that before taking off from Crete. Maybe not. Not. It was Leo Gorcey :) Jesus Christ, take it to a men's room stall you two. Spoken like an experienced politician. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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