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HK July 9th 09 02:19 PM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:42:36 -0400, J i m
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:20:07 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


One final thought - we, and I mean all tournament fishermen, need to
reevaluate the landed tournaments and go towards the X series billfish
and shark tournament model - on board judges who film, document, measure
and tag all catches which are then released back into the eco system.
That seems to be the wave of the future. It does take some time for
minds to change. Look at bass fishing. When I was a kid, a bass was a
meal. These days, at least around here, it's a rare instance when a bass
is kept. They are almost always released with the hope they can be
caught again. Same with a trout, once the put and take openers are gone.

I think quite a few sportsmen are coming around to seeing that ocean fish
are too valuable alive, to be caught only once.

Catch it - Kill it - Eat it. It's pretty simple. Is there any other
legitimate reason for fishing?


WHAT?!? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?!?

Sport man - sport. You do it for the fun of the hunt, the chase, the
fight - the pure joy of knowing that you've mastered a denizen of the
wild - just the knowledge that if your had to, you could. The skill
and knowledge of presenting the proper bait with the proper technique
at the proper time at the proper place with the proper equipment. A
deeper understanding of the nature of your quarry and the constant
learning curve of time, place and technique.

It not being out in nature, but being a part of it - a piece of the
eco puzzle - an opportunity and an excuse to go places you've never
been before - new stretches of river, new lakes, and new countryside.
Visiting areas you have been before, but it's never the same due to
wind, waves, tides and time.

The ultimate predator showing compassion and mercy to the lesser
species.



SW Tom's been taking night school courses at the College of Purple Prose.

Calif Bill[_2_] July 9th 09 06:10 PM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:42:36 -0400, J i m
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:20:07 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


One final thought - we, and I mean all tournament fishermen, need to
reevaluate the landed tournaments and go towards the X series
billfish
and shark tournament model - on board judges who film, document,
measure
and tag all catches which are then released back into the eco system.
That seems to be the wave of the future. It does take some time for
minds to change. Look at bass fishing. When I was a kid, a bass was a
meal. These days, at least around here, it's a rare instance when a
bass is kept. They are almost always released with the hope they can
be caught again. Same with a trout, once the put and take openers are
gone.

I think quite a few sportsmen are coming around to seeing that ocean
fish are too valuable alive, to be caught only once.
Catch it - Kill it - Eat it. It's pretty simple. Is there any other
legitimate reason for fishing?


WHAT?!? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?!?

Sport man - sport. You do it for the fun of the hunt, the chase, the
fight - the pure joy of knowing that you've mastered a denizen of the
wild - just the knowledge that if your had to, you could. The skill
and knowledge of presenting the proper bait with the proper technique
at the proper time at the proper place with the proper equipment. A
deeper understanding of the nature of your quarry and the constant
learning curve of time, place and technique.

It not being out in nature, but being a part of it - a piece of the
eco puzzle - an opportunity and an excuse to go places you've never
been before - new stretches of river, new lakes, and new countryside.
Visiting areas you have been before, but it's never the same due to
wind, waves, tides and time.

The ultimate predator showing compassion and mercy to the lesser
species.



SW Tom's been taking night school courses at the College of Purple Prose.

Maybe you should sign up. Is better than what you write.



Vic Smith July 10th 09 01:50 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:11:23 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:42:36 -0400, J i m
wrote:

thunder wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:20:07 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


One final thought - we, and I mean all tournament fishermen, need to
reevaluate the landed tournaments and go towards the X series billfish
and shark tournament model - on board judges who film, document, measure
and tag all catches which are then released back into the eco system.

That seems to be the wave of the future. It does take some time for
minds to change. Look at bass fishing. When I was a kid, a bass was a
meal. These days, at least around here, it's a rare instance when a bass
is kept. They are almost always released with the hope they can be
caught again. Same with a trout, once the put and take openers are gone.

I think quite a few sportsmen are coming around to seeing that ocean fish
are too valuable alive, to be caught only once.


Catch it - Kill it - Eat it. It's pretty simple. Is there any other
legitimate reason for fishing?


WHAT?!? HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?!?

Sport man - sport. You do it for the fun of the hunt, the chase, the
fight - the pure joy of knowing that you've mastered a denizen of the
wild - just the knowledge that if your had to, you could. The skill
and knowledge of presenting the proper bait with the proper technique
at the proper time at the proper place with the proper equipment. A
deeper understanding of the nature of your quarry and the constant
learning curve of time, place and technique.

It not being out in nature, but being a part of it - a piece of the
eco puzzle - an opportunity and an excuse to go places you've never
been before - new stretches of river, new lakes, and new countryside.
Visiting areas you have been before, but it's never the same due to
wind, waves, tides and time.

The ultimate predator showing compassion and mercy to the lesser
species.


Well, since fishfinders came in (which I've never used BTW) some of
the mystic elements of the hunt have evaporated.
No romance.
Like shooting wolves from a chopper.
So I agree with Jim.
And if I don't get some fish to eat, I got some sun and fresh air.

--Vic


Tim July 10th 09 02:11 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Jul 8, 7:43*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:36:22 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



On Jul 8, 7:21*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Jul 8, 6:13*pm, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3530


The article indicates this fisherman caught some heat for bringing it
home.
The boat captain said it was the fisherman's choice.
Seems to me the captain gets to set the rules.
????


--Vic


It would have been more "manly" to let it go...alive.


""It's wonderful news to hear of the existence of large breeding
animals, but from a conservation point of view, it was a shame the
shark was not released alive."


what was he supposed to do? release it when it's dead?


I think it should have gone to market and fed a lot of people.


People eat fish, including *sharks, even biggun's


That's not he only fresh water shark in existance.


Not the point. That fish was most likely a female and most likely
still breeding.


You want to keep fish like that in the water and producing more little
fishies.


Very good Capt. i do appreciat your explaination. and it does make
sens, but please re-note my mis-spelled disclaimer:


"That's not he only fresh water shark in existance. "


i know what you're saying, but I look at it as maybe not as big, that
species isn't *endangered, also there's **propably* plenty more where
that came from.


That's been the thinking about sharks for years.

Turns out, not so much as thought.

http://www.grist.org/article/2009-06...ce-extinction/


Thank you wise one, I surrender to your knowledge.

Tim July 10th 09 02:13 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Jul 9, 6:25*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:50:49 -0500, thunder
wrote:



On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:20:07 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


One final thought - we, and I mean all tournament fishermen, need to
reevaluate *the landed tournaments and go towards the X series billfish
and shark tournament model - on board judges who film, document, measure
and tag all catches which are then released back into the eco system.


That seems to be the wave of the future. *It does take some time for
minds to change. *Look at bass fishing. *When I was a kid, a bass was a
meal. *These days, at least around here, it's a rare instance when a bass
is kept. *They are almost always released with the hope they can be
caught again. *Same with a trout, once the put and take openers are gone.


I think quite a few sportsmen are coming around to seeing that ocean fish
are too valuable alive, to be caught only once.


True, but it's still the big bucks landed tournaments that take the
monsters out of the system where they are most needed.

I remember back when largemouth were considered "trash" fish - like
bullheads - 'po folk et 'em. *:)

you mean like 'buffalo'


Vic Smith July 10th 09 02:31 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 9, 6:25Â*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:



I remember back when largemouth were considered "trash" fish - like
bullheads - 'po folk et 'em. Â*:)

you mean like 'buffalo'


I read once that back east they pitchforked the salmon out of the
streams during the spawning runs - to use for field fertilizer.
Considered salmon trash fish.
Never knew that about largemouth.
But we never considered them good eating.
Crappies and bluegills were the favorite eating fish.

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] July 10th 09 02:45 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:31:44 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Crappies and bluegills were the favorite eating fish.


Oh yeah - remember going out in the morning before first light with a
flash light and can up a bunch of worms, then head out to the local
lake, catch a mess of panfish, clean 'em and have 'em for breakfast
with hush puppies.

I got back far enough to remember the blue pike Friday Fish Fry. That
was some good eatin'.

Man, I'm ancient. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] July 10th 09 02:49 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:50:27 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

Well, since fishfinders came in (which I've never used BTW) some of
the mystic elements of the hunt have evaporated.


Not really. I primarily use mine searching for structure and reading
the sub-surface thermoclines. And use of the GPS isn't much more of a
help either - it helps you return to productive locations, but it's
still a guessing game of water/weather conditions, lure selection,
presentation and all the other factors that go into catching fish.

No romance.


Depends on how you define "romance".

Like shooting wolves from a chopper.


Not at all - entirely different.

So I agree with Jim.


You guys have no soul. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] July 10th 09 02:50 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:13:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 9, 6:25*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:50:49 -0500, thunder
wrote:



On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:20:07 -0400, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:


One final thought - we, and I mean all tournament fishermen, need to
reevaluate *the landed tournaments and go towards the X series billfish
and shark tournament model - on board judges who film, document, measure
and tag all catches which are then released back into the eco system.


That seems to be the wave of the future. *It does take some time for
minds to change. *Look at bass fishing. *When I was a kid, a bass was a
meal. *These days, at least around here, it's a rare instance when a bass
is kept. *They are almost always released with the hope they can be
caught again. *Same with a trout, once the put and take openers are gone.


I think quite a few sportsmen are coming around to seeing that ocean fish
are too valuable alive, to be caught only once.


True, but it's still the big bucks landed tournaments that take the
monsters out of the system where they are most needed.

I remember back when largemouth were considered "trash" fish - like
bullheads - 'po folk et 'em. *:)

you mean like 'buffalo'


More like the blue pike.

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] July 10th 09 03:24 AM

Should King Kong Be Left in the Jungle?
 
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:11:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Thank you wise one, I surrender to your knowledge.


As well you should.


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