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On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:19:39 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:34:44 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|No such chance.
|
|The easy availability of hand guns made killing Steve McNair easy.
|
|Gun purchased one or two days prior without a waiting period through a
|private sale.
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|Nice work NRA.

What rabid anti-gun folks don't quite comprehend is that homicidal
intent is not weapon dependent. I had to wait to get my Concealed
Carry Permit or alternatively, I would have to wait to get a gun. That
wouldn't help much if I had a festering homicidal intent.

The problem Gene is that there are so many ****ing weapons on the
street that your truism may have validity.

If we hadn't let the cat out of the bag and had exercised a little
better foresight, there wouldn't be a profusion of easily obtainable
weapons...

Second amendment is not meant to make certain the entire ****ing
country is armed.

Have you visited a trauma ward recently? I have a friend who works in
the local ward. It's filled with shooting victims and the occasional
idiot who's cramed his head into a sidewalk from a motorcycle.

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jps wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:19:39 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:34:44 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|No such chance.
|
|The easy availability of hand guns made killing Steve McNair easy.
|
|Gun purchased one or two days prior without a waiting period through a
|private sale.
|
|Nice work NRA.

What rabid anti-gun folks don't quite comprehend is that homicidal
intent is not weapon dependent. I had to wait to get my Concealed
Carry Permit or alternatively, I would have to wait to get a gun. That
wouldn't help much if I had a festering homicidal intent.

The problem Gene is that there are so many ****ing weapons on the
street that your truism may have validity.

If we hadn't let the cat out of the bag and had exercised a little
better foresight, there wouldn't be a profusion of easily obtainable
weapons...

Second amendment is not meant to make certain the entire ****ing
country is armed.

Have you visited a trauma ward recently? I have a friend who works in
the local ward. It's filled with shooting victims and the occasional
idiot who's cramed his head into a sidewalk from a motorcycle.


In Virginia and some other states, there's no waiting period and no
paperwork. You simply go to a gun show and find a private seller.
There's the ones at the show doing sales out of the trunks of their
cars. Perfectly legal in Virginia.

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:34:44 -0700, jps penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|No such chance.
|
|The easy availability of hand guns made killing Steve McNair easy.
|
|Gun purchased one or two days prior without a waiting period through a
|private sale.
|
|Nice work NRA.

What rabid anti-gun folks don't quite comprehend is that homicidal
intent is not weapon dependent. I had to wait to get my Concealed
Carry Permit or alternatively, I would have to wait to get a gun. That
wouldn't help much if I had a festering homicidal intent.

If I were committed to the task... as it appears, other folks,
deprived of guns, and committed to the task seek other tools of the
trade....
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle603869.ece

And, yes, thank you, NRA.... I support you and your efforts to uphold
the American Constitution and the rights granted to us to hold and use
firearms....

Please seek understanding in the truism that, "When guns are outlawed,
only outlaws will own guns...."


I agree with this post.

-NRA Life Member

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:02:11 -0400, HK wrote:

Theft, typically, is a non-violent offense.

So basically you just slap them on the hand and let them keep stealing
until a ****ed homeowner shoots them?

I agree that is pretty much the policy now. We had a guy here who was
a multiple conviction offender (theft and burglary), caught by the
homeowner inside his house and turned over at gunpoint to the sheriff.
The bottom line, he was back on the street in 90 days.
The guy who caught him says, next time he will be turned over to the
coroner. Florida is a castle state. The last guy we had shot dead, in
an RV in the driveway, didn't even draw a charge. An RV is a dwelling
unit in the eyes of the law here.


I didn't give a long answer, but typically I would differentiate between
"theft" and "robbery." Theft typically involves stealing, and usually
not by force. "Robbery" typically is the more serious offense, and
usually involves force. Now, laws and definitions differ from
jurisdiction to jurisdiction, so obviously in some places "theft" can
include characteristics of a more serious offense.

Generally, I would not give long prison sentences to non-violent thieves.

I don't support some aspects of some castle laws or the ways they are
interpreted. . If someone is actively breaking into your house, or
potentially making you a victim of a carjacking, or something similar,
then I think you can stand your ground and do whatever you need to do to
protect your life.

I recall a case in Texas, I think, where two men apparently were
breaking into an empty house, and the neighbor came out and shot them
both, even though the police told him not to do so. The shooter was
found not guilty of anything, if memory serves. Well, that's beyond the
intent of castle laws, I think.

When I was newspaper reporter, I remember a case where a shop owner
rigged a shotgun to go off in case someone broke into his store when he
was not there. Well, it worked...the gun killed a fireman who was part
of a crew answering a fire alarm. The shopkeeper was prosecuted,
convicted, and sentenced.

You really are out of your mind! BTW - it's burglary or robbery. The
difference is that robbery involves a person rather than an unoccupied
dwelling or unattended personal property. Would you feel the same if
you came home and Karen's house was empty and your desk (gasp!) in your
basement living quarters was gone along with your mainframe and multiple
workstations?

And what connection does any of that have to do with a story about a
moron who booby trapped his store?

WAFA!

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HK wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:02:11 -0400, HK wrote:

Theft, typically, is a non-violent offense.

So basically you just slap them on the hand and let them keep stealing
until a ****ed homeowner shoots them?

I agree that is pretty much the policy now. We had a guy here who was
a multiple conviction offender (theft and burglary), caught by the
homeowner inside his house and turned over at gunpoint to the sheriff.
The bottom line, he was back on the street in 90 days.
The guy who caught him says, next time he will be turned over to the
coroner. Florida is a castle state. The last guy we had shot dead, in
an RV in the driveway, didn't even draw a charge. An RV is a dwelling
unit in the eyes of the law here.


I didn't give a long answer, but typically I would differentiate between
"theft" and "robbery." Theft typically involves stealing, and usually
not by force. "Robbery" typically is the more serious offense, and
usually involves force. Now, laws and definitions differ from
jurisdiction to jurisdiction, so obviously in some places "theft" can
include characteristics of a more serious offense.

Generally, I would not give long prison sentences to non-violent thieves.

I don't support some aspects of some castle laws or the ways they are
interpreted. . If someone is actively breaking into your house, or
potentially making you a victim of a carjacking, or something similar,
then I think you can stand your ground and do whatever you need to do to
protect your life.

I recall a case in Texas, I think, where two men apparently were
breaking into an empty house, and the neighbor came out and shot them
both, even though the police told him not to do so. The shooter was
found not guilty of anything, if memory serves. Well, that's beyond the
intent of castle laws, I think.

When I was newspaper reporter, I remember a case where a shop owner
rigged a shotgun to go off in case someone broke into his store when he
was not there. Well, it worked...the gun killed a fireman who was part
of a crew answering a fire alarm. The shopkeeper was prosecuted,
convicted, and sentenced.

Didn't you try to kill someone with your truck for a non violent crime?
Don't you threaten to kill anyone who comes in your home uninvited?
Sounds like you can't keep your stories straight.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

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