Well, hey - turns out that Obama is really a Robber Baron in disguise.

Who 'da thunk it?

"Two main things to understand about Waxman-Markey: First, it will not
reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, at least not at any point in the near
future. The inclusion of carbon offsets, which can be manufactured out
of thin air and political imagination, will eliminate most of the
demands that the legislation puts on industry, though in doing so it
will manage to drive up the prices consumers pay for every product
that requires energy for its manufacture — which is to say, for
everything. Second, it represents a worse abuse of the public trust
and purse than the stimulus and the bailouts put together.
Waxman-Markey creates a permanent new regime in which environmental
romanticism and corporate welfare are mixed together to form political
poison. From comic bureaucratic power grabs (check out the section of
the bill on candelabras) to the creation of new welfare programs for
Democratic constituencies to, above all, massive giveaways for every
financial, industrial, and political lobby imaginable, this bill would
permanently deform American politics and economic life. "

http://tinyurl.com/kphvb6

Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
Well, hey - turns out that Obama is really a Robber Baron in disguise.

Who 'da thunk it?

"Two main things to understand about Waxman-Markey: First, it will not
reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, at least not at any point in the near
future. The inclusion of carbon offsets, which can be manufactured out
of thin air and political imagination, will eliminate most of the
demands that the legislation puts on industry, though in doing so it
will manage to drive up the prices consumers pay for every product
that requires energy for its manufacture — which is to say, for
everything. Second, it represents a worse abuse of the public trust
and purse than the stimulus and the bailouts put together.
Waxman-Markey creates a permanent new regime in which environmental
romanticism and corporate welfare are mixed together to form political
poison. From comic bureaucratic power grabs (check out the section of
the bill on candelabras) to the creation of new welfare programs for
Democratic constituencies to, above all, massive giveaways for every
financial, industrial, and political lobby imaginable, this bill would
permanently deform American politics and economic life. "

http://tinyurl.com/kphvb6


Wow...SWTom, aka king of etec, reads national review, or pretends he does.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
Well, hey - turns out that Obama is really a Robber Baron in disguise.

Who 'da thunk it?

"Two main things to understand about Waxman-Markey: First, it will not
reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, at least not at any point in the near
future. The inclusion of carbon offsets, which can be manufactured out
of thin air and political imagination, will eliminate most of the
demands that the legislation puts on industry, though in doing so it
will manage to drive up the prices consumers pay for every product
that requires energy for its manufacture — which is to say, for
everything. Second, it represents a worse abuse of the public trust
and purse than the stimulus and the bailouts put together.
Waxman-Markey creates a permanent new regime in which environmental
romanticism and corporate welfare are mixed together to form political
poison. From comic bureaucratic power grabs (check out the section of
the bill on candelabras) to the creation of new welfare programs for
Democratic constituencies to, above all, massive giveaways for every
financial, industrial, and political lobby imaginable, this bill would
permanently deform American politics and economic life. "

http://tinyurl.com/kphvb6


Wow...SWTom, aka king of etec, reads national review, or pretends he does.

Typical Harry - attacks messenger, never counters the message with rational
thought. Perfect apologist for the Messiah.

Lu Powell wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
Well, hey - turns out that Obama is really a Robber Baron in disguise.

Who 'da thunk it?

"Two main things to understand about Waxman-Markey: First, it will not
reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, at least not at any point in the near
future. The inclusion of carbon offsets, which can be manufactured out
of thin air and political imagination, will eliminate most of the
demands that the legislation puts on industry, though in doing so it
will manage to drive up the prices consumers pay for every product
that requires energy for its manufacture — which is to say, for
everything. Second, it represents a worse abuse of the public trust
and purse than the stimulus and the bailouts put together.
Waxman-Markey creates a permanent new regime in which environmental
romanticism and corporate welfare are mixed together to form political
poison. From comic bureaucratic power grabs (check out the section of
the bill on candelabras) to the creation of new welfare programs for
Democratic constituencies to, above all, massive giveaways for every
financial, industrial, and political lobby imaginable, this bill would
permanently deform American politics and economic life. "

http://tinyurl.com/kphvb6


Wow...SWTom, aka king of etec, reads national review, or pretends he
does.

Typical Harry - attacks messenger, never counters the message with
rational thought. Perfect apologist for the Messiah.



If the message is from sources like national review, it isn't worth
countering. It's just more right-wing hatemongering.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Lu Powell wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
Well, hey - turns out that Obama is really a Robber Baron in disguise.

Who 'da thunk it?

"Two main things to understand about Waxman-Markey: First, it will not
reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, at least not at any point in the near
future. The inclusion of carbon offsets, which can be manufactured out
of thin air and political imagination, will eliminate most of the
demands that the legislation puts on industry, though in doing so it
will manage to drive up the prices consumers pay for every product
that requires energy for its manufacture — which is to say, for
everything. Second, it represents a worse abuse of the public trust
and purse than the stimulus and the bailouts put together.
Waxman-Markey creates a permanent new regime in which environmental
romanticism and corporate welfare are mixed together to form political
poison. From comic bureaucratic power grabs (check out the section of
the bill on candelabras) to the creation of new welfare programs for
Democratic constituencies to, above all, massive giveaways for every
financial, industrial, and political lobby imaginable, this bill would
permanently deform American politics and economic life. "

http://tinyurl.com/kphvb6


Wow...SWTom, aka king of etec, reads national review, or pretends he
does.

Typical Harry - attacks messenger, never counters the message with
rational thought. Perfect apologist for the Messiah.



If the message is from sources like national review, it isn't worth
countering. It's just more right-wing hatemongering.

So only left-wing hatemongering is allowed? Ideas are worthy of discussion,
no matter the source, unless of course, you are bigoted.

Lu Powell wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Lu Powell wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
Well, hey - turns out that Obama is really a Robber Baron in disguise.

Who 'da thunk it?

"Two main things to understand about Waxman-Markey: First, it will not
reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, at least not at any point in the near
future. The inclusion of carbon offsets, which can be manufactured out
of thin air and political imagination, will eliminate most of the
demands that the legislation puts on industry, though in doing so it
will manage to drive up the prices consumers pay for every product
that requires energy for its manufacture — which is to say, for
everything. Second, it represents a worse abuse of the public trust
and purse than the stimulus and the bailouts put together.
Waxman-Markey creates a permanent new regime in which environmental
romanticism and corporate welfare are mixed together to form political
poison. From comic bureaucratic power grabs (check out the section of
the bill on candelabras) to the creation of new welfare programs for
Democratic constituencies to, above all, massive giveaways for every
financial, industrial, and political lobby imaginable, this bill would
permanently deform American politics and economic life. "

http://tinyurl.com/kphvb6


Wow...SWTom, aka king of etec, reads national review, or pretends he
does.

Typical Harry - attacks messenger, never counters the message with
rational thought. Perfect apologist for the Messiah.



If the message is from sources like national review, it isn't worth
countering. It's just more right-wing hatemongering.

So only left-wing hatemongering is allowed? Ideas are worthy of
discussion, no matter the source, unless of course, you are bigoted.


From 2000-2008, the right-wingers proved beyond a doubt they were
bereft of ideas that would improve the position of this country in the
world and this country's citizens. I see no reason to consider seriously
anything the right-wing states.