Made in China
 

Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high
end" guitar wall.

Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it.
Worked fine.
Installed the second fixture. Worked fine.

Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work.
Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it
aside.

Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't
work.
Fiddled around, still didn't work.

Finally took it apart to figure out why.

It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened
to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply
voltage.

I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing.

Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio"
but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box.

Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire
producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not
the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in
China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in
some of their manufacturing facilities.

They should stick to noodles.

Eisboch

Made in China
 

On Jul 4, 4:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high
end" guitar wall.

Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it..
Worked fine.
Installed the second fixture. *Worked fine.

Installed the third. *Didn't work. *Changed the bulb. *Still didn't work.
Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it
aside.

Installed the forth fixture. *Didn't work. *Changed the bulb, still didn't
work.
Fiddled around, still didn't work.

Finally took it apart to figure out why.

It could never have worked. *It was put together wrong and if I had happened
to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply
voltage.

I took the other one that didn't work apart. * Same thing.

Looked at the boxes they came in. *Sure enough. * Brand name is "Portfolio"
but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box.

Moral: * Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire
producing items that are made in China. * I am not kidding. * This is not
the first time I've run into this. * Some of the products being made in
China are dangerous. *There is obviously no production or quality control in
some of their manufacturing facilities.

They should stick to noodles.

Eisboch

Several years ago I had a semi-disastrous fire in my lab due to one of
those made in China outlet strips. Took it apart and found bad solder
joints all over. Buying Chinese stuff is dangerous. I do not
understand why we cannot put an extra tax on their stuff to pay for
testing we ought to be doing on it.

Made in China
 

Eisboch wrote:

Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my
"high end" guitar wall.

Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in
it. Worked fine.
Installed the second fixture. Worked fine.

Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work.
Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it
aside.

Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still
didn't work.
Fiddled around, still didn't work.

Finally took it apart to figure out why.

It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had
happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the
supply voltage.

I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing.

Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is
"Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box.

Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially
dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not
kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the
products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no
production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities.

They should stick to noodles.

Eisboch



I try hard to avoid anything made in the PRC.

It's not easy to do and I am not batting 1.000.

Made in China
 

On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:13:06 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially
dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not
kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the
products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no
production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities.

When I heard about poison (melamine) in infant formula, I learned all I
need to know about manufacturing in China.

I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign
brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most
of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China.

Made in China
 

On Jul 4, 4:25*pm, thunder wrote:


I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign
brands because the perceived quality. *Seemed a little odd to me, as most
of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China.



In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good
and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia.

Made in China
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, thunder wrote:


I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign
brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most
of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China.



In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good
and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia.

------------------------------

That's fine as long as they don't decide to make them there and market 'em
back here.

Eisboch

Made in China
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, thunder wrote:

I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign
brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most
of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China.



In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good
and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia.

------------------------------

That's fine as long as they don't decide to make them there and market 'em
back here.

Eisboch



I'm sure the Chinese already are manufacturing knock-offs.
Counterfeiting is one of their best accomplishments. From women's
clothing to cosmetics to callaway golf clubs, the chinese are adept at
fake goods.

Made in China
 

Eisboch wrote:

Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my
"high end" guitar wall.

Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in
it. Worked fine.
Installed the second fixture. Worked fine.

Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work.
Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it
aside.

Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still
didn't work.
Fiddled around, still didn't work.

Finally took it apart to figure out why.

It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had
happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the
supply voltage.

I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing.

Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is
"Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box.

Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially
dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not
kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the
products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no
production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities.

They should stick to noodles.

Eisboch


The problem is finding a product like that made in the US. Chinese
imports have taken over many categories entirely.

Was there a UL label on the box? There probably was and you really have
to wonder how they pulled that off. My only guess if that the sample
reviewed by the UL was made perfectly and after that...anything goes.

Made in China
 

"HK" wrote in message
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I'm sure the Chinese already are manufacturing knock-offs. Counterfeiting
is one of their best accomplishments. From women's clothing to cosmetics
to callaway golf clubs, the chinese are adept at fake goods.

Some of the traditional, cultural and historical products from China are
exquisite.
Unfortunately, most of it is not allowed in our modern, tree-hugger,
environmentally sensitive world.
The art work is of bone and rare woods that are band in our western society.

They just haven't caught up to modern, high production manufacture of
plastics.

Eisboch

Made in China
 

"D K" wrote in message
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Was there a UL label on the box? There probably was and you really have
to wonder how they pulled that off. My only guess if that the sample
reviewed by the UL was made perfectly and after that...anything goes.

Yup, there is a UL label. Doesn't mean a thing because quality control is a
statistical thing.
It means the design is UL labeled, but doesn't mean the
manufacturing/assembly process meets the requirements.

Eisboch