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Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch |
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On Jul 4, 4:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it.. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. *Worked fine. Installed the third. *Didn't work. *Changed the bulb. *Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. *Didn't work. *Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. *It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. * Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. *Sure enough. * Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: * Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. * I am not kidding. * This is not the first time I've run into this. * Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. *There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch Several years ago I had a semi-disastrous fire in my lab due to one of those made in China outlet strips. Took it apart and found bad solder joints all over. Buying Chinese stuff is dangerous. I do not understand why we cannot put an extra tax on their stuff to pay for testing we ought to be doing on it. |
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Eisboch wrote:
Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch I try hard to avoid anything made in the PRC. It's not easy to do and I am not batting 1.000. |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:13:06 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. When I heard about poison (melamine) in infant formula, I learned all I need to know about manufacturing in China. I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China. |
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On Jul 4, 4:25*pm, thunder wrote:
I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign brands because the perceived quality. *Seemed a little odd to me, as most of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China. In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, thunder wrote: I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China. In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia. ------------------------------ That's fine as long as they don't decide to make them there and market 'em back here. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, thunder wrote: I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China. In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia. ------------------------------ That's fine as long as they don't decide to make them there and market 'em back here. Eisboch I'm sure the Chinese already are manufacturing knock-offs. Counterfeiting is one of their best accomplishments. From women's clothing to cosmetics to callaway golf clubs, the chinese are adept at fake goods. |
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Eisboch wrote:
Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch The problem is finding a product like that made in the US. Chinese imports have taken over many categories entirely. Was there a UL label on the box? There probably was and you really have to wonder how they pulled that off. My only guess if that the sample reviewed by the UL was made perfectly and after that...anything goes. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... I'm sure the Chinese already are manufacturing knock-offs. Counterfeiting is one of their best accomplishments. From women's clothing to cosmetics to callaway golf clubs, the chinese are adept at fake goods. Some of the traditional, cultural and historical products from China are exquisite. Unfortunately, most of it is not allowed in our modern, tree-hugger, environmentally sensitive world. The art work is of bone and rare woods that are band in our western society. They just haven't caught up to modern, high production manufacture of plastics. Eisboch |
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"D K" wrote in message ... Was there a UL label on the box? There probably was and you really have to wonder how they pulled that off. My only guess if that the sample reviewed by the UL was made perfectly and after that...anything goes. Yup, there is a UL label. Doesn't mean a thing because quality control is a statistical thing. It means the design is UL labeled, but doesn't mean the manufacturing/assembly process meets the requirements. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message m... I'm sure the Chinese already are manufacturing knock-offs. Counterfeiting is one of their best accomplishments. From women's clothing to cosmetics to callaway golf clubs, the chinese are adept at fake goods. Some of the traditional, cultural and historical products from China are exquisite. Unfortunately, most of it is not allowed in our modern, tree-hugger, environmentally sensitive world. The art work is of bone and rare woods that are band in our western society. They just haven't caught up to modern, high production manufacture of plastics. Eisboch heh. "band" ??? try "banned" |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 4, 4:13 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch Several years ago I had a semi-disastrous fire in my lab due to one of those made in China outlet strips. Took it apart and found bad solder joints all over. Buying Chinese stuff is dangerous. I do not understand why we cannot put an extra tax on their stuff to pay for testing we ought to be doing on it. Beeeecause the Globalists WTO and Merchants say foul. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D K" wrote in message ... Was there a UL label on the box? There probably was and you really have to wonder how they pulled that off. My only guess if that the sample reviewed by the UL was made perfectly and after that...anything goes. Yup, there is a UL label. Doesn't mean a thing because quality control is a statistical thing. It means the design is UL labeled, but doesn't mean the manufacturing/assembly process meets the requirements. Eisboch UL does recurring factory checkups, both the processes and product. |
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On Jul 4, 4:24*pm, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. *Worked fine. Installed the third. *Didn't work. *Changed the bulb. *Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. *Didn't work. *Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. *It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. * Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. *Sure enough. * Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: * Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. * I am not kidding. * This is not the first time I've run into this. * Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. *There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities.. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch I try hard to avoid anything made in the PRC. It's not easy to do and I am not batting 1.000.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Your not batting 1%? |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I doubt he bught it because it was cheap. My guess is that he bought it because it was what was available at the box store. Next time, he might go to an electrical supplier and "spec" stuff that is *not* made in the commie country. |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, thunder wrote: I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China. In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia. Yep, and as of last year you can get the knock offs pretty inexpensively. Just minus the logo. As for the profits, while they are making some, the market is quite competative and margins much thinner than Snap-on is used to. And as the Chinese manufacturer for Snap-on, they gain the expertise to undercut Snap-on. Good for short term numbers but lets take a look at Snap-on say 3, 8, 15 years out. My guess is the profits will be squeezed and pricing elasticity is shot to hell. With credit the way it is, the dealer part of the business is under the squeeze in both costs and credit. Industrial is under pressure. Government? Not sure but not big enough to mater that much. The real problem with companies like SNA on a long term view is the new management style. Hacksaw Jack of HNI fame started it and no doubt some was needed. But new managment knows nothing else but ruthless and often mindless slash and burn mentality, geared only towards short term profit and management bonuses. Good short term view, but not maintainable in the long term. From what I hear, they are not repairing the social damages done to morale either. A ticking time bomb and VP/executive top heavy. Review the history of another mid-west company, Master Lock. No longer manufacturers much at all and ever bit outsourced. A shadow of it's former self, went to China too. Snap-on in right on this track. It isn't to say I would buy SNA stock, I might. If it dipped to $20 I might make a short term play for $35 but it has no place in my long term portfolio as a buy/hold. Sold my last lot at $59.90 just over a year ago. It will not see $60/share until inflation drives it or a reverse split. |
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"Canuck57" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I am thinking about the hundreds of thousands of people who shop at Lowe's or Home Depot installing these in their homes and wasting their money at the least and risking a fire in the worst case. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, thunder wrote: I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China. In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia. ------------------------------ That's fine as long as they don't decide to make them there and market 'em back here. Eisboch Already happening. Quite a bit of their inventory is made in China and elsewhere. Sometimes they slap a "Product of USA" on packaged sets but the tools came from China. Deceptive, but has been known to occur. Oh, the case it'self was mould-inejected in the US with imported plastics so it is technically true for the case. Same thing goes on with GM, Ford and Chrysler. Engine from Europe, transmission from Korea, bearings from Japan, steel from China, electronics from Tiawan but assembled in USA. I doubt there is a 100% NA made vehicle out there. Snap-on is no angel here. Foreign made and imported. Just milking the brand. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jul 4, 4:25 pm, thunder wrote: I heard something interesting, perhaps on NPR, the Chinese prefer foreign brands because the perceived quality. Seemed a little odd to me, as most of those "foreign" brands are manufactured in China. In the past few years. American-made Snap-on tools have found a good and profitable market in China as well as the rest of Asia. ------------------------------ That's fine as long as they don't decide to make them there and market 'em back here. Eisboch I'm sure the Chinese already are manufacturing knock-offs. Counterfeiting is one of their best accomplishments. From women's clothing to cosmetics to callaway golf clubs, the chinese are adept at fake goods. They had good teachers, American companies go there and teach them. Even Cisco has problems with knock offs. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D K" wrote in message ... Was there a UL label on the box? There probably was and you really have to wonder how they pulled that off. My only guess if that the sample reviewed by the UL was made perfectly and after that...anything goes. Yup, there is a UL label. Doesn't mean a thing because quality control is a statistical thing. It means the design is UL labeled, but doesn't mean the manufacturing/assembly process meets the requirements. Eisboch UL is about give me money and you can stamp it UL. |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I am thinking about the hundreds of thousands of people who shop at Lowe's or Home Depot installing these in their homes and wasting their money at the least and risking a fire in the worst case. Eisboch I was and still am a believer in BIG labeling on products to indicate country of origin. "Made in Communist China" would be a label I'd look for, in order to avoid buying the product contained therein. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Canuck57 wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I doubt he bught it because it was cheap. My guess is that he bought it because it was what was available at the box store. Next time, he might go to an electrical supplier and "spec" stuff that is *not* made in the commie country. Good spec stuff also comes from China. Buyer beware as crap comes from the US and Canada too. It isn't a national issue, but a world one. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Canuck57" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I am thinking about the hundreds of thousands of people who shop at Lowe's or Home Depot installing these in their homes and wasting their money at the least and risking a fire in the worst case. Eisboch Call up UL, and ask to send them the defective one at their charge. |
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Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Canuck57 wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I doubt he bught it because it was cheap. My guess is that he bought it because it was what was available at the box store. Next time, he might go to an electrical supplier and "spec" stuff that is *not* made in the commie country. Good spec stuff also comes from China. Buyer beware as crap comes from the US and Canada too. It isn't a national issue, but a world one. Whoosh...I'm talking about avoiding whenever possible *anything* made in the P.R.C. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "Canuck57" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I am thinking about the hundreds of thousands of people who shop at Lowe's or Home Depot installing these in their homes and wasting their money at the least and risking a fire in the worst case. Eisboch I was and still am a believer in BIG labeling on products to indicate country of origin. "Made in Communist China" would be a label I'd look for, in order to avoid buying the product contained therein. Like most things, it starts off well and good. But given human nature's propensity to *******ize it, it decays until replaced. |
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"HK" wrote in message m... Canuck57 wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Canuck57 wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I doubt he bught it because it was cheap. My guess is that he bought it because it was what was available at the box store. Next time, he might go to an electrical supplier and "spec" stuff that is *not* made in the commie country. Good spec stuff also comes from China. Buyer beware as crap comes from the US and Canada too. It isn't a national issue, but a world one. Whoosh...I'm talking about avoiding whenever possible *anything* made in the P.R.C. That would be awful hard to do these days. |
Made in China
Canuck57 wrote:
"HK" wrote in message m... Canuck57 wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Canuck57 wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Went to Lowes and bought an 8' track lighting system to mount over my "high end" guitar wall. Installed the track, wired it up and put the first of four fixtures in it. Worked fine. Installed the second fixture. Worked fine. Installed the third. Didn't work. Changed the bulb. Still didn't work. Fiddled with it for a while then decided it is probably bad and put it aside. Installed the forth fixture. Didn't work. Changed the bulb, still didn't work. Fiddled around, still didn't work. Finally took it apart to figure out why. It could never have worked. It was put together wrong and if I had happened to get the contacts to connect, it would have shorted out the supply voltage. I took the other one that didn't work apart. Same thing. Looked at the boxes they came in. Sure enough. Brand name is "Portfolio" but "Made in China" is printed in small print on the box. Moral: Don't buy any electrical appliances or potentially dangerous/fire producing items that are made in China. I am not kidding. This is not the first time I've run into this. Some of the products being made in China are dangerous. There is obviously no production or quality control in some of their manufacturing facilities. They should stick to noodles. Eisboch But you bought it because it was cheap. Think about that before responding. I doubt he bught it because it was cheap. My guess is that he bought it because it was what was available at the box store. Next time, he might go to an electrical supplier and "spec" stuff that is *not* made in the commie country. Good spec stuff also comes from China. Buyer beware as crap comes from the US and Canada too. It isn't a national issue, but a world one. Whoosh...I'm talking about avoiding whenever possible *anything* made in the P.R.C. That would be awful hard to do these days. But worth trying. |
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