Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.



I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?

I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic


That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn
8% so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

On Jul 1, 10:32*am, "Don White" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message

m...





Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...overtime01jul0....

What a mess. *I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. *WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. *Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic

Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years, they
get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions of
dollars while defrauding their investors?

I'm hoping the general attitude towards working people in this group isn't
indicative of the American people as a whole.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I totally agree! Harry has gone around here for YEARS knocking hard
working people such as ditch diggers, **** pumpers, loggers, etc.

"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.


I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?

I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic


That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn 8%
so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?
I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic

That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn 8%
so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.



Loogy is an engineer...his day job is to run the lionel train set at the
daycare center.

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed
wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?
I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic

That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn
8% so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.

Loogy is an engineer...his day job is to run the lionel train set at the
daycare center.

Honest work, I guess. I thought he spent all his time cultivating that
'special crop' hidden behind his house.

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
m...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:13:39 -0400, HK wrote:

Don White wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

You ready to take it int he shorts?

Who needs Vaseline when you're going to get the barbed
wire-wrapped-
around-the-broom handle treatment.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,4274002.story
What a mess. I think the biggest problem is those gold-plated
salaries and pension plans they're paying to state employees,
including college faculty.
That's the biggest danger of big gov, they vote themselves and their
cronies big money.
And the Dems want to borrow 2 billion instead of cutting spending or
raising taxes. WTF?
They should rely mostly on SS and 401k savings like just about
everybody else has to, and keep pensions within reason.
The Fed elected officials are probably worse.
They can print money.
Dead weight and featherbedders all over the place.
Hey, ever think about running for Congress?
Like winning the lottery if elected.
Thanks for getting me depressed. Don't you miss Blago?
Told ya. (-:

--Vic
Around heree, if a provincial MLA or a Federal MP can serve 6 years,
they get a generous pension plan.
They sure do take good care of themselves.

I chuckle when I read how "outraged" some are regarding the pitiful
pensions paid to most public employees. Where was the outrage when the
bankers, insurance execs, and wall streeters were taking home millions
of dollars while defrauding their investors?
I can't begin to tell you ****ed off I am at what the crooks are
getting.
But that never kept me from making financial sense for myself.
Worst thing that ever happened to this country was letting Wall Street
into everybody's pocket via 401k payroll deductions.
And making them think their future was guaranteed by Wall Street, so
they didn't have to worry about living within their means and saving
for their retirement to supplement SS.
What a ****ing con job.

--Vic
That part of my retirement covered by a *real* pension is covered by a
fixed benefit union pension, and the guys running it are smart enough to
have always managed a rate of return on investments higher than the
outflow. They even did this last year, and are doing it this year, too.
I know a lot of fixed benefit pensions are struggling right now to earn
8% so they don't have to dip into the gold.

We have no unfunded liabilities, either.

Our pension people claim that ours is one of the top ten in the country.
Hope it keeps up.....or I might have to join Looney in the 'recreational
products' industry.
Loogy is an engineer...his day job is to run the lionel train set at the
daycare center.

Honest work, I guess. I thought he spent all his time cultivating that
'special crop' hidden behind his house.



He sells it at the schoolyard he passes.