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Just John... for today! wrote:
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http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
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Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?
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Just John... for today! wrote:
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http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
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-- George Bernard Shaw


Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?


They wanted to be on the same side as Sotomayor.
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Just Jim wrote:
Just John... for today! wrote:
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http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the
support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?

It's not about closely keeping the politicians close to the Constitution
and individual rights.
It is about partisan views and politics.
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Gene wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:42:33 -0400, Just Jim
wrote:

Just John... for today! wrote:
Good!

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?


Astoundingly twisted logic. Actually, it is the same sort of thing
going on in Honduras.

We value "X," therefore we can suspend value "Y" for the greater good.

Honduras:
We value the constitution, therefore we can suspend the rule of law
for the greater good.

US:
We value multiculturalism, therefore we can allow racism for the
greater good.

What amazes me is that so many people cannot see the forest because of
all of those damn trees. Amazing. Sad, but amazing.

I am, however, encouraged by the 5 on the USSC that actually saw the
forest.... and I hope those firefighters (they *earned* them) see
their promotions, though I fear it is still an uphill battle.


Yes. This decision is a faint light at the end of a long dark tunnel. I
hope this gets a lot more play in the press, but I suspect we won't hear
much more about it. It will be brushed under the rug in favor of more
important news like the life and death of Jocko or Billy Mays.


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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:21:25 -0400, Gene
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:42:33 -0400, Just Jim
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Just John... for today! wrote:
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http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?


Astoundingly twisted logic. Actually, it is the same sort of thing
going on in Honduras.

We value "X," therefore we can suspend value "Y" for the greater good.

Honduras:
We value the constitution, therefore we can suspend the rule of law
for the greater good.


That sounds nice, but isn't the constitution the basis for the rule of
law?
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw
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Just John... for today! wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:21:25 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:42:33 -0400, Just Jim
wrote:

Just John... for today! wrote:
Good!

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw
Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?

Astoundingly twisted logic. Actually, it is the same sort of thing
going on in Honduras.

We value "X," therefore we can suspend value "Y" for the greater good.

Honduras:
We value the constitution, therefore we can suspend the rule of law
for the greater good.


That sounds nice, but isn't the constitution the basis for the rule of
law?


The Honduran Supreme Court ruled that the referendum that the President
wanted to hold was unconstitutional. The Honduran military was just
upholding the Honduran Constitution as order by duly elected and legal
authorities gave them orders.
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BAR wrote:
Just John... for today! wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:21:25 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:42:33 -0400, Just Jim
wrote:

Just John... for today! wrote:
Good!

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the
support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw
Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify
their decision?
Astoundingly twisted logic. Actually, it is the same sort of thing
going on in Honduras.

We value "X," therefore we can suspend value "Y" for the greater good.

Honduras:
We value the constitution, therefore we can suspend the rule of law
for the greater good.


That sounds nice, but isn't the constitution the basis for the rule of
law?


The Honduran Supreme Court ruled that the referendum that the President
wanted to hold was unconstitutional. The Honduran military was just
upholding the Honduran Constitution as order by duly elected and legal
authorities gave them orders.



The Honduran military perpetrated a military coup, something that gives
you mustered out old soldier boys a woody.
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:08:00 -0400, BAR wrote:

Just John... for today! wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:21:25 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:42:33 -0400, Just Jim
wrote:

Just John... for today! wrote:
Good!

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw
Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?
Astoundingly twisted logic. Actually, it is the same sort of thing
going on in Honduras.

We value "X," therefore we can suspend value "Y" for the greater good.

Honduras:
We value the constitution, therefore we can suspend the rule of law
for the greater good.


That sounds nice, but isn't the constitution the basis for the rule of
law?


The Honduran Supreme Court ruled that the referendum that the President
wanted to hold was unconstitutional. The Honduran military was just
upholding the Honduran Constitution as order by duly elected and legal
authorities gave them orders.


The Honduran military probably took an oath to uphold and protect
their constitution. If protecting the constitution meant taking out
the person who would trash it, then more power to the military.

The liberals can suck eggs on this one.
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John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:44:35 -0400, Gene
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:08:00 -0400, BAR wrote:

Just John... for today! wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:21:25 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:42:33 -0400, Just Jim
wrote:

Just John... for today! wrote:
Good!

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...29-713183.html
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw
Who were the 4 that voted nay and how could they possibly justify their
decision?
Astoundingly twisted logic. Actually, it is the same sort of thing
going on in Honduras.

We value "X," therefore we can suspend value "Y" for the greater good.

Honduras:
We value the constitution, therefore we can suspend the rule of law
for the greater good.

That sounds nice, but isn't the constitution the basis for the rule of
law?


The Honduran Supreme Court ruled that the referendum that the President
wanted to hold was unconstitutional. The Honduran military was just
upholding the Honduran Constitution as order by duly elected and legal
authorities gave them orders.


Since you think I am no "expert," you apparently consider yourself
one. Therefore, Oh Magnificent Carnak, point to me the part of the
Honduran Constitution legitimizing a military coup d'etat....


I would expect the Honduran military to have taken an oath to protect
their constitution. They were doing so.

If that is not part of their oath, then it was erroneously overlooked.
They did what they should have done.

The fact that Chavez, Castro, a few dictators at the UN, Obama, you,
and Harry don't like it is tough bananas.
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John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw


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