Obama, Chavez and Castro
 

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:53:47 GMT, "Ron" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:44:46 GMT, Ron penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

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|"Gene" wrote in message
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| On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:36:54 GMT, "Ron" wrote:
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|"Gene" wrote in message
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| It isn't WHAT they did, it is HOW they did it.
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|How else would you expect them to deal with a President who is clearly
in
|a
|power grab and acting outside the law and against the Constitution of
the
|country?
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|Any other alternative would have ended in a Civil War.
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|
| You forgot to add: In your opinion..... unless you have a crystal
| ball.
|
|You didn't answer the question.
|


It was so ridiculous that I didn't think you'd want me too.....


What an arrogant prick you are.

Anyway, since he was an unpopular figure, civil war was HIGHLY
unlikely. I'd say that only about a 15% (or less) minority was upset
with him losing control.


In an protracted fight for the power of a country, 15% of the population is
more than enough to spark a civil war.


What they should have done was *legally* order the elections stopped.

They did that. The Congress, and the Supreme Court both ordered the
President to halt the illegal referendum. He decided against that and called
in the assistance of a foreign country to come into the country to run the
election. That my friend is treason.


He should have been detained (not deported), charged, tried, and the
will of the court carried out.

Deporting him was doing him a favor. He has been informed he is more than
welcome to return if he wants to spend 20+ years in prison.

(Generally, in the US we hold the trial
AND THEN execute... not the other way around and everybody sort of
expects that. Not you?)

We're not talking about the US, but in the event that a sitting US President
decided to circumvent the US Constitution and hold an illegal national
referendum to circumvent the Constitution, the Congress, and the Supreme
Court I would hope that our military would act accordingly.

What they did was not legal, it was
suspension of democracy by the military for some expedient. That is
NEVER a good idea unless you really don't value democracy.


What they did was legal under the laws of their country.


Now, instead of the highly unlikely internal civil war, you have
fairly serious saber rattling all over South America.
So far as I know, there have been NO nations that have accepted the way
things
were handled in Honduras. Do you know of any?

Honduras is a sovereign country and does not require outside approval of
their actions. What they did is in accordance with their laws, and the will
of the democratically elected representatives, and therefore the people.

Are you an expert in Honduran law or have you been taking in the
talking points Fox News has been distributing?

Obama, Chavez and Castro
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:53:47 GMT, "Ron" wrote:

Are you an expert in Honduran law

Compared to you, yes.

Obama, Chavez and Castro
 

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:53:47 GMT, "Ron" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:44:46 GMT, Ron penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|
|"Gene" wrote in message
.. .
| On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:36:54 GMT, "Ron" wrote:
|
|
|"Gene" wrote in message
...
|
| It isn't WHAT they did, it is HOW they did it.
|
|How else would you expect them to deal with a President who is clearly
in
|a
|power grab and acting outside the law and against the Constitution of
the
|country?
|
|Any other alternative would have ended in a Civil War.
|
|
| You forgot to add: In your opinion..... unless you have a crystal
| ball.
|
|You didn't answer the question.
|


It was so ridiculous that I didn't think you'd want me too.....


What an arrogant prick you are.

Anyway, since he was an unpopular figure, civil war was HIGHLY
unlikely. I'd say that only about a 15% (or less) minority was upset
with him losing control.


In an protracted fight for the power of a country, 15% of the population is
more than enough to spark a civil war.


What they should have done was *legally* order the elections stopped.

They did that. The Congress, and the Supreme Court both ordered the
President to halt the illegal referendum. He decided against that and called
in the assistance of a foreign country to come into the country to run the
election. That my friend is treason.


He should have been detained (not deported), charged, tried, and the
will of the court carried out.

Deporting him was doing him a favor. He has been informed he is more than
welcome to return if he wants to spend 20+ years in prison.

(Generally, in the US we hold the trial
AND THEN execute... not the other way around and everybody sort of
expects that. Not you?)

We're not talking about the US, but in the event that a sitting US President
decided to circumvent the US Constitution and hold an illegal national
referendum to circumvent the Constitution, the Congress, and the Supreme
Court I would hope that our military would act accordingly.

What they did was not legal, it was
suspension of democracy by the military for some expedient. That is
NEVER a good idea unless you really don't value democracy.


What they did was legal under the laws of their country.


Now, instead of the highly unlikely internal civil war, you have
fairly serious saber rattling all over South America.
So far as I know, there have been NO nations that have accepted the way
things
were handled in Honduras. Do you know of any?

Honduras is a sovereign country and does not require outside approval of
their actions. What they did is in accordance with their laws, and the will
of the democratically elected representatives, and therefore the people.


You have to remember that most liberals believe our laws should be
approved by every socialist country.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Obama, Chavez and Castro
 

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:13:25 GMT, "Ron" wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:53:47 GMT, "Ron" wrote:

Are you an expert in Honduran law

Compared to you, yes.

I'm not the one professing an acute knowledge of the legalities
involved.

Is this some kind of conservative personality disorder? Putting
yourself up as something you're not?