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359# Warsaw Grouper!
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359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Jun 28, 7:03*pm, D K wrote:
http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! how did they get that thing in the boat? |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! how did they get that thing in the boat? A better question, given the degree of over fishing for that species, is *why* did they get that thing in the boat? What's the point of that sort of fishing? The same sort of macho nonsense as hunting for non-dangerous game. "Look, honey...I shot a deer." How brave. |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Jun 28, 7:43*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03*pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! *how did they get that thing in the boat? A better question, given the degree of over fishing for that species, is *why* did they get that thing in the boat? -- Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." * - Unknown Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepagehttp://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm I didn't know that species was being plundered? hasn't there been any restrictions put on that type or weight of fish? |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Jun 28, 7:59*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:46:02 -0400, HK wrote: Gene wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! *how did they get that thing in the boat? A better question, given the degree of over fishing for that species, is *why* did they get that thing in the boat? What's the point of that sort of fishing? The same sort of macho nonsense as hunting for non-dangerous game. "Look, honey...I shot a deer." How brave. If I understand your question correctly, since one can't determine the type of fish on the hook until the fish is close to the boat, that is the first opportunity for one to throw back those fish that should not be harvested. You don't really suggest that hunting should be undertaken only when the odds are even between the hunter and hunted, do you? Knife fight with a grizzly? Nunchucks with an elk? Maybe large caliber slingshot with a bull elephant? I'm thinking deer at 200 yards with a Win. .270.... that's fair.... -- Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." * - Unknown Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepagehttp://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm I was thinking about the same distance with a .303 Brit. |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:46:02 -0400, HK wrote: Gene wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! how did they get that thing in the boat? A better question, given the degree of over fishing for that species, is *why* did they get that thing in the boat? What's the point of that sort of fishing? The same sort of macho nonsense as hunting for non-dangerous game. "Look, honey...I shot a deer." How brave. If I understand your question correctly, since one can't determine the type of fish on the hook until the fish is close to the boat, that is the first opportunity for one to throw back those fish that should not be harvested. You don't really suggest that hunting should be undertaken only when the odds are even between the hunter and hunted, do you? Knife fight with a grizzly? Nunchucks with an elk? Maybe large caliber slingshot with a bull elephant? I'm thinking deer at 200 yards with a Win. .270.... that's fair.... If you are bottom fishing in Florida, there is no telling what you are going to catch. There is no reason to "boat" a giant grouper, except maybe to demonstrate the fish has evolved more than the guy who caught it. I have no objection to subsistence hunting. My objection is to the connecting of hunting with a rifle with terms like "macho," and in many cases, "sporting." Dropping an animal with a round from a rifle is neither macho nor sporting in most cases. Hunting with a longbow or a knife probably is more macho and more sporting, because there are some animals capable of fighting back. |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:26:46 -0400, HK wrote:
If you are bottom fishing in Florida, there is no telling what you are going to catch. There is no reason to "boat" a giant grouper, except maybe to demonstrate the fish has evolved more than the guy who caught it. Those big Warsaw Grouper are found very deep. Talking +200. Think the subject grouper was taken at +400. According to something I read they often die from pressure change even if released. Think you have to go looking for them, but they boated a number of other nice fish at that depth, so maybe they weren't after the big one. Never fished more than about 60-70' feet in the gulf myself, and have taken some nice grouper, including a 60-70 pound Jewfish - before taking a Jewfish became illegal. Reason Jewfish became endangered was spear fishermen, or so I read. In any case, big old fish aren't as good eating as the smaller, younger versions, or so I've heard. Never ate a big, old fish. Don't know if the subject grouper was good eating. One guy in the thread said it was probably a hundred years old. Don't know what age they quit spawning, which is as important as anything. It's best not to abuse the wealth of the sea. I don't know if the subject grouper qualifies for that or not. --Vic |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
HK wrote:
Gene wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! how did they get that thing in the boat? A better question, given the degree of over fishing for that species, is *why* did they get that thing in the boat? What's the point of that sort of fishing? The same sort of macho nonsense as hunting for non-dangerous game. "Look, honey...I shot a deer." How brave. Can you imagine someone posting photos of a poor stump that he shot? -- Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:19:06 -0700, Tim wrote:
I didn't know that species was being plundered? hasn't there been any restrictions put on that type or weight of fish? By type, not weight. One Warsaw grouper per vessel, per trip, and it may not be sold, or traded. http://www.safmc.net/FishIDandRegs/F...per/tabid/337/ Default.aspx |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:51:16 -0500, thunder
wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:19:06 -0700, Tim wrote: I didn't know that species was being plundered? hasn't there been any restrictions put on that type or weight of fish? By type, not weight. One Warsaw grouper per vessel, per trip, and it may not be sold, or traded. http://www.safmc.net/FishIDandRegs/F...per/tabid/337/ Default.aspx Look ma! I ate the whole thing all by myself. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Jun 28, 7:03*pm, D K wrote:
http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! I puled this off that website. I like it. http://74.54.61.131/customavatars/avatar12461_1.gif |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Jun 28, 8:46*pm, HK wrote:
Gene wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:37:35 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! *how did they get that thing in the boat? A better question, given the degree of over fishing for that species, is *why* did they get that thing in the boat? What's the point of that sort of fishing? The same sort of macho nonsense as hunting for non-dangerous game. "Look, honey...I shot a deer." How brave. To eat, stupid. |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:45:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03*pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! I puled this off that website. I like it. http://74.54.61.131/customavatars/avatar12461_1.gif I liked it too. Almost did the same thing you did, but don't know where I'd use it. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:38:58 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:32:26 -0400, Just John... for today! wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:45:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03*pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! I puled this off that website. I like it. http://74.54.61.131/customavatars/avatar12461_1.gif I liked it too. Almost did the same thing you did, but don't know where I'd use it. The point I like to make to my vegetarian friends is this: I am an omnivore because it would be highly disrespectful for me to ignore the contributions of my forbears, over the past 5,000,0000 years, as they scratched and clawed their way to the top of the food chain. Also, etymologically speaking, "vegetarian" is simply an American Indian word meaning "poor hunter." I'm not sure I'd willingly chose the mantle of poor anything...... I know it's true, but it's still funny. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Jun 29, 9:32*am, Just John... for today!
wrote: On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:45:57 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03*pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! I puled this off that website. I like it. http://74.54.61.131/customavatars/avatar12461_1.gif I liked it too. Almost did the same thing you did, but don't know where I'd use it. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Send it to PETA... |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
Tim wrote:
On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! how did they get that thing in the boat? Probably the tuna door. |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
"D K" wrote in message ... Tim wrote: On Jun 28, 7:03 pm, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Good Lord!! how did they get that thing in the boat? Probably the tuna door. I caught a 60# and a 40# on a party boat fishing trip one time out of Galveston, TX. I had the drag tight, as we were pulling up snapper two at a time. The big one hit, and if the guy next to me hadn't grabbed my ankles, I would have gone right over the gunwhale. We ran down from a convention in Dallas. I sold all the fish, and with poker winnings, made about $700 that day. 165# of snapper. Steve |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:03:33 -0400, D K
wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Rather catch what some call ' square grouper ', what with it retailing for four or five grand a pound. Casady |
359# Warsaw Grouper!
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:03:33 -0400, D K wrote: http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=169757 Nice fish! Rather catch what some call ' square grouper ', what with it retailing for four or five grand a pound. Casady If I calculated the cost of the fish I keep, they would run several hundred per pound. Add the boat, gas, bait, tackle, etc. and it adds up fast! |
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