On Jun 28, 8:42*pm, HK wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:04:31 -0400, Just John... for now!
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:59:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

"Critics of the laws, meanwhile, link high levels of gun crime with
high levels of gun ownership...."

Yes, high level gun crime by the gun *(usually obtained stolen or
black market) owning criminal.

Not by the law abiding citizen..
I wonder if those critics think there may be a relationship between
the number of auto accidents and the number of auto drivers.

How perspicacious of them!

Or, classically:

If you examine the records of the city of Copenhagen for the ten or
twelve years following World War II, you will find a strong positive
correlation between (i) the annual number of storks nesting in the
city, and (ii) the annual number of human babies born in the city.
Jump too quickly to the assumption of a causal relationship, and you
will find yourself saddled with the conclusion either that storks
bring babies or that babies bring storks.

See:
http://faculty.vassar.edu/lowry/ch3pt2.html

An awful lot of criminals buy guys in bulk quantities in virginia at the
dozens of guns shows held there each month. No paperwork, no IDs, just
money for guns.- Hide quoted text -

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Why do criminals buy "guys"?

On Jun 28, 8:01*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:42:58 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:04:31 -0400, Just John... for now!
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:59:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

"Critics of the laws, meanwhile, link high levels of gun crime with
high levels of gun ownership...."

Yes, high level gun crime by the gun *(usually obtained stolen or
black market) owning criminal.

Not by the law abiding citizen..
I wonder if those critics think there may be a relationship between
the number of auto accidents and the number of auto drivers.

How perspicacious of them!

Or, classically:

If you examine the records of the city of Copenhagen for the ten or
twelve years following World War II, you will find a strong positive
correlation between (i) the annual number of storks nesting in the
city, and (ii) the annual number of human babies born in the city.
Jump too quickly to the assumption of a causal relationship, and you
will find yourself saddled with the conclusion either that storks
bring babies or that babies bring storks.

See:
http://faculty.vassar.edu/lowry/ch3pt2.html

An awful lot of criminals buy guys in bulk quantities in virginia at the
dozens of guns shows held there each month. No paperwork, no IDs, just
money for guns.

I don't have a real problem with the gun shows, but frankly, volume
purchases of guys in bulk scares the hell out of me.....
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Me too, that is unless it's a dealer transfer. Actually I'm not
concerned about the mass purchases, moreover than the product being
mass purchased.

If somebody walks in with x thousand dollars of cash and walks out
with about every AR-15, H&K 91/93, FN-FAL or AK he can find sans
paperwork, then i have a problem with that, because chances are very
good that they will (but not always) in one form or another be headed
for the southern US border for a huge profit from silent people.

But somebody that comes in and buys a few old military style semi-
automatics or bolt actions? Nah, I can go with that.

Tim wrote:
"Critics of the laws, meanwhile, link high levels of gun crime with
high levels of gun ownership...."

Yes, high level gun crime by the gun (usually obtained stolen or
black market) owning criminal.

Not by the law abiding citizen..


Lots of guns are bought at "loophole" gun shows in states like Virginia,
and in the transactions no identities or paperwork change hands. Too bad
the trails of those guns cannot be properly followed.