Obama only gets the best...
 

"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people — like the president himself —
wouldn’t face."

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn’t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he’s proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
“it’s my family member, if it’s my wife, if it’s my children, if it’s
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

What a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.

Obama only gets the best...
 

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:11:41 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people — like the president himself —
wouldn’t face."

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn’t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he’s proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
“it’s my family member, if it’s my wife, if it’s my children, if it’s
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

What a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.

He

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5VPCtxh7ow

Note the 'waffling' by Obama. Did he ever answer the question?
--
John H

"HONK - if I'm paying your mortgage!"

Obama only gets the best...
 

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people — like the president himself —
wouldn’t face."

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn’t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he’s proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
“it’s my family member, if it’s my wife, if it’s my children, if it’s
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

What a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.


You and the rest of the Elmer Gantry-ites seem completely misinformed on
this issue.

First, it is uncertain there will be a "public plan," if by that you
mean a health insurance plan offered directly by the federal government.

Second, if there is a public plan, its details are unknown.

Third, if there is a public plan, no one will be forced into it.

Fourth, federal employees already have a separate health insurance plan
that includes low co-pays, and pretty complete coverage. It's been
around for decades. Lots of insurance companies participate it it. Your
new-found buddy here, Herring, the guy you told me on the phone was the
worst poster in rec.boats, is a participant.

Perhaps you should write about Husqvarna tractors...another subject
about which you know next to nothing.

Obama only gets the best...
 

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people ? like the president himself ?
wouldn?t face."

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn?t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he?s proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
?it?s my family member, if it?s my wife, if it?s my children, if it?s
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

What a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.
This is socialism or communism.
Surrendering your life, however tenuous should not be determined or
mandated by the State.
This is not dollars and cents. This is control by government.
They are trying to spend our money for us now they want to dictate life
and death.

Obama only gets the best...
 

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:13:58 -0400, nada wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people ? like the president himself ?
wouldn?t face."

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn?t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he?s proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
?it?s my family member, if it?s my wife, if it?s my children, if it?s
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

What a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.
This is socialism or communism.
Surrendering your life, however tenuous should not be determined or
mandated by the State.
This is not dollars and cents. This is control by government.
They are trying to spend our money for us now they want to dictate life
and death.

Do you realize we live in a social democracy?

Are you sure a social democracy is the type of country in which you
want to live?

Obama only gets the best...
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...

"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people - like the president himself -
wouldn't face."

Obama shoots his mouth off too much and says so little. Of course it is
going to cost all Americans. Businesses will drop health care, workers will
pick it up on their income tax bill without a raise. Workers get screwed.
Think about this for a minute. After syphoning a trillion or more to
private businesses, now health care...

Count on your taxes going nuts. Maybe even a load of new federal sales and
import taxes. And a national alcohol excise tax. If it is anything like
Canada and the UK, that next Jim Bean with be $50/bottle or more. Gasoline
will be $6/gallon or more.

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

Bull****. In Canada regional health boards ration care. Politicial favors
abound.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
"it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

At least he was honest.

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

Yep, it is going to be an Obama-nation for sure.

What a hypocrite.

You don't have to be white to be a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.

I already know the USA is going to go to hell in a handbasket over this.
Totally WRONG approach. And I am one of the few that can claim to have
LIVED under the USA, UK and Canadian systems. Obama is going to botch this
so bad....

Obama only gets the best...
 

"HK" wrote in message
m...

Third, if there is a public plan, no one will be forced into it.

But they will be forced to pay for it.

Obama only gets the best...
 

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:24:55 -0600, "Canuck57"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .

"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people - like the president himself -
wouldn't face."

Obama shoots his mouth off too much and says so little. Of course it is
going to cost all Americans. Businesses will drop health care, workers will
pick it up on their income tax bill without a raise. Workers get screwed.
Think about this for a minute. After syphoning a trillion or more to
private businesses, now health care...

Count on your taxes going nuts. Maybe even a load of new federal sales and
import taxes. And a national alcohol excise tax. If it is anything like
Canada and the UK, that next Jim Bean with be $50/bottle or more. Gasoline
will be $6/gallon or more.

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn't seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he's proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

Bull****. In Canada regional health boards ration care. Politicial favors
abound.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
"it's my family member, if it's my wife, if it's my children, if it's
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

At least he was honest.

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

Yep, it is going to be an Obama-nation for sure.

What a hypocrite.

You don't have to be white to be a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.

I already know the USA is going to go to hell in a handbasket over this.
Totally WRONG approach. And I am one of the few that can claim to have
LIVED under the USA, UK and Canadian systems. Obama is going to botch this
so bad....


Jesus H. Christ. Where were you when Bush was running the country
into the ground?

Were you posting under a different handle?

God forbid we should do something for our own people.

Un-****in'-believable.

Obama only gets the best...
 

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:51:09 -0400, HK wrote:

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
"President Obama struggled to explain today whether his health care
reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that
wealthier, more powerful people — like the president himself —
wouldn’t face."

"Devinsky asked the president pointedly if he would be willing to
promise that he wouldn’t seek such extraordinary help for his wife or
daughters if they became sick and the public plan he’s proposing
limited the tests or treatment they can get.

The president refused to make such a pledge, though he allowed that if
“it’s my family member, if it’s my wife, if it’s my children, if it’s
my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care.["]

ObamaCare for thee, but not for me?

What a hypocrite.

Oh - by the way - did y'all know that Federal and State employees will
have their own seperate insurance plans under ObamaCare? That will
include low co-pays, full pharm/doc/dental/major medical coverage and
exemption from having to be part of ObamaCare?

Think about that for a while.


You and the rest of the Elmer Gantry-ites seem completely misinformed on
this issue.

First, it is uncertain there will be a "public plan," if by that you
mean a health insurance plan offered directly by the federal government.

Second, if there is a public plan, its details are unknown.

Third, if there is a public plan, no one will be forced into it.

Fourth, federal employees already have a separate health insurance plan
that includes low co-pays, and pretty complete coverage. It's been
around for decades. Lots of insurance companies participate it it. Your
new-found buddy here, Herring, the guy you told me on the phone was the
worst poster in rec.boats, is a participant.

Perhaps you should write about Husqvarna tractors...another subject
about which you know next to nothing.

Oh, man! Now my heart is truly broken. I'll bet you even believed Tom,
right?

And no, Harry, I'm not a participant in your separate health insurance
plan with lots of insurance companies.

There, you've gotten my monthly response to your stupidities.
--
John H

"HONK - if I'm paying your mortgage!"

Obama only gets the best...
 

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:59:55 -0400, John H
wrote:

You and the rest of the Elmer Gantry-ites seem completely misinformed on
this issue.

No I'm not Bone Head because I've actually looked through the material
- unlike you.

I really hate to say this, but you are quite possibly the dumbest,
most ill-informed example of liberal philosophy to ever grace the
innertubes. I thought those morons on Kos were stupid - you're light
years beyond them in crass, brainless drooling.

As a matter of fact, I might put you right up at the top of the list
as "Dumbest Possibly Drunkest Most Addled Ill Informed and Incompetent
Internet Contributor Ever" if it weren't for the fact that your thread
chat buddy jps leads the list - albeit in a different category.

Look - I'm there for you - anytime you want help with your abuse
problem or want a referral to a good psychiatrist, I'm sure my
daughter would be glad to refer you to the best. Considering your
dire financial straits (I mean you can't be making that much money,
you spend all your time on rec.boats), I'm sure she could swing a
charity referral for you - top shelf too - only the best for my
friends.

Well, you aren't really my friend - more like a pimple on a hemorrhoid
in a infected fissure (ok, I know it's early - I'll translate for you
- it's a lengthy way of saying Pain In The Ass), but I do what I can
for the less fortunate and if there is anybody posting on this
newsgroup that is less fortunate in many areas of interpersonal
communications complicated by over arching psychiatric "issues", it's
you.

Ah - good deed done for the day.

Upwards and onwards.

Obama only gets the best...
 

Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:59:55 -0400, John H
wrote:

You and the rest of the Elmer Gantry-ites seem completely misinformed on
this issue.

No I'm not Bone Head because I've actually looked through the material
- unlike you.

I really hate to say this, but you are quite possibly the dumbest,
most ill-informed example of liberal philosophy to ever grace the
innertubes. I thought those morons on Kos were stupid - you're light
years beyond them in crass, brainless drooling.

As a matter of fact, I might put you right up at the top of the list
as "Dumbest Possibly Drunkest Most Addled Ill Informed and Incompetent
Internet Contributor Ever" if it weren't for the fact that your thread
chat buddy jps leads the list - albeit in a different category.


Why, thank you. Coming from a right-wing troglodyte like you, that's
high praise indeed. I'm sure JPS will also be pleased by your compliments.

Perhaps you might enlighten us some more with your vast knowledge of the
universe, even though most of what you seem to know is dead wrong. Your
head is so far up your ass, I'm sure you can use your nose to breathe
through your mouth.

Your real problem with me, aside from my politics, is that I *question*
your pronouncements, and that is something you cannot tolerate.

Weren't you leaving for some job or employment or consulting? Or was
that more of your bull****, Tom? This isn't the set of "No Exit," Tom,
nor is it the Hotel California. You can check out anytime you like, and
you can leave. And take your BFFs Herring, Justhate, and Jackoff with
you. Their stench is overwhelming, and so is yours.

Obama only gets the best...
 

HK wrote:
Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:59:55 -0400, John H
wrote:

You and the rest of the Elmer Gantry-ites seem completely
misinformed on this issue.

No I'm not Bone Head because I've actually looked through the material
- unlike you.

I really hate to say this, but you are quite possibly the dumbest,
most ill-informed example of liberal philosophy to ever grace the
innertubes. I thought those morons on Kos were stupid - you're light
years beyond them in crass, brainless drooling.

As a matter of fact, I might put you right up at the top of the list
as "Dumbest Possibly Drunkest Most Addled Ill Informed and Incompetent
Internet Contributor Ever" if it weren't for the fact that your thread
chat buddy jps leads the list - albeit in a different category.


Why, thank you. Coming from a right-wing troglodyte like you, that's
high praise indeed. I'm sure JPS will also be pleased by your compliments.

Perhaps you might enlighten us some more with your vast knowledge of the
universe, even though most of what you seem to know is dead wrong. Your
head is so far up your ass, I'm sure you can use your nose to breathe
through your mouth.

Your real problem with me, aside from my politics, is that I *question*
your pronouncements, and that is something you cannot tolerate.

Weren't you leaving for some job or employment or consulting? Or was
that more of your bull****, Tom? This isn't the set of "No Exit," Tom,
nor is it the Hotel California. You can check out anytime you like, and
you can leave. And take your BFFs Herring, Justhate, and Jackoff with
you. Their stench is overwhelming, and so is yours.



P.S.


By the way, despite your insistence, there is no firm proposal for the
so-called public option for health care/health insurance. There are many
proposals floating around. Despite your denials, there is a very
successful program that offers a variety of health plans to federal
employees. Oh, and while we are at it: you lied when you boasted about
the fuel burn of your etec outboard, you mistakenly bought a 25" shaft
outboard for your 20" transom boat (and then tried to recover from your
ignorance by installing a jack plate), and you don't know **** about
Husqvarana tractors. The list of crap you've floated in here is endless.

When are you taking your ball off the court here and leaving in your
usual snit for a couple of days or weeks? When will it be time to sneak
back in with a new set of handles?

Obama only gets the best...
 

"Zombie of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:59:55 -0400, John H
wrote:

You and the rest of the Elmer Gantry-ites seem completely misinformed on
this issue.

No I'm not Bone Head because I've actually looked through the material
- unlike you.

I really hate to say this, but you are quite possibly the dumbest,
most ill-informed example of liberal philosophy to ever grace the
innertubes. I thought those morons on Kos were stupid - you're light
years beyond them in crass, brainless drooling.

As a matter of fact, I might put you right up at the top of the list
as "Dumbest Possibly Drunkest Most Addled Ill Informed and Incompetent
Internet Contributor Ever" if it weren't for the fact that your thread
chat buddy jps leads the list - albeit in a different category.

Look - I'm there for you - anytime you want help with your abuse
problem or want a referral to a good psychiatrist, I'm sure my
daughter would be glad to refer you to the best. Considering your
dire financial straits (I mean you can't be making that much money,
you spend all your time on rec.boats), I'm sure she could swing a
charity referral for you - top shelf too - only the best for my
friends.

Well, you aren't really my friend - more like a pimple on a hemorrhoid
in a infected fissure (ok, I know it's early - I'll translate for you
- it's a lengthy way of saying Pain In The Ass), but I do what I can
for the less fortunate and if there is anybody posting on this
newsgroup that is less fortunate in many areas of interpersonal
communications complicated by over arching psychiatric "issues", it's
you.

Ah - good deed done for the day.

Upwards and onwards.

Flame style from the past. Outstanding.

Obama only gets the best...
 

HK wrote:
Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:59:55 -0400, John H
wrote:

You and the rest of the Elmer Gantry-ites seem completely
misinformed on this issue.

No I'm not Bone Head because I've actually looked through the material
- unlike you.

I really hate to say this, but you are quite possibly the dumbest,
most ill-informed example of liberal philosophy to ever grace the
innertubes. I thought those morons on Kos were stupid - you're light
years beyond them in crass, brainless drooling.

As a matter of fact, I might put you right up at the top of the list
as "Dumbest Possibly Drunkest Most Addled Ill Informed and Incompetent
Internet Contributor Ever" if it weren't for the fact that your thread
chat buddy jps leads the list - albeit in a different category.


Why, thank you. Coming from a right-wing troglodyte like you, that's
high praise indeed. I'm sure JPS will also be pleased by your compliments.


Why do you, or anyone else, give a **** if JPS is "pleased" about
anything? Is he handling your needs while Karen is out shopping for a
real man?