On Jun 18, 10:09*am, HK wrote:


Go back to inventing stuff that won't sell. You've not got a future as a
commentator.

Poor dumb Harry. He knows nothing about inventing or being technically
creative

Thomas A. Edison:

Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always
America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave
as your fathers before you. Have faith! Go forward!

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent
perspiration.

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't
mean it's useless.

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they
were to success when they gave up.

Nearly every man who develops an idea works it up to the point where
it looks impossible, and then he gets discouraged. That's not the
place to become discouraged

And Henry Ford. Harry, pay special attention to the first one!

A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it.

Even a mistake may turn out to be the one thing necessary to a
worthwhile achievement.

Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more
intelligently.

I cannot discover that anyone knows enough to say definitely what is
and what is not possible.


Good thing these people didn't think like Harry!

On Jun 18, 10:55*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Jun 18, 10:09*am, HK wrote:



Go back to inventing stuff that won't sell. You've not got a future as a
commentator.

Poor dumb Harry. He knows nothing about inventing or being technically
creative

Thomas A. Edison:

Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always
America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave
as your fathers before you. Have faith! Go forward!

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent
perspiration.

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't
mean it's useless.

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they
were to success when they gave up.

Nearly every man who develops an idea works it up to the point where
it looks impossible, and then he gets discouraged. That's not the
place to become discouraged

And Henry Ford. Harry, pay special attention to the first one!

A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it.

Even a mistake may turn out to be the one thing necessary to a
worthwhile achievement.

Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more
intelligently.

I cannot discover that anyone knows enough to say definitely what is
and what is not possible.

Good thing these people didn't think like Harry!

Failure can be very profitable too so whenever something does not work
remember it and WHY. Then use that as the basis for something else.
A personal example that Eisboch will probable be familar with.
We once wanted to make a conductive coating that was very shiny and we
would then electroplate gold onto it and then peel of the resulting
gold foil. We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.
Now, I often use this mistake to ensure gold sticks.

On Jun 18, 11:55*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 18, 10:55*am, Loogypicker wrote:





On Jun 18, 10:09*am, HK wrote:

Go back to inventing stuff that won't sell. You've not got a future as a
commentator.

Poor dumb Harry. He knows nothing about inventing or being technically
creative

Thomas A. Edison:

Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always
America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave
as your fathers before you. Have faith! Go forward!

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent
perspiration.

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't
mean it's useless.

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they
were to success when they gave up.

Nearly every man who develops an idea works it up to the point where
it looks impossible, and then he gets discouraged. That's not the
place to become discouraged

And Henry Ford. Harry, pay special attention to the first one!

A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it.

Even a mistake may turn out to be the one thing necessary to a
worthwhile achievement.

Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more
intelligently.

I cannot discover that anyone knows enough to say definitely what is
and what is not possible.

Good thing these people didn't think like Harry!

Failure can be very profitable too so whenever something does not work
remember it and WHY. *Then use that as the basis for something else.
A personal example that Eisboch will probable be familar with.
We once wanted to make a conductive coating that was very shiny and we
would then electroplate gold onto it and then peel of the resulting
gold foil. *We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. *Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. *It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.
Now, I often use this mistake to ensure gold sticks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, absolutely! A lot of Edison's inventions were mistakes. He was
trying to get a completely different result, failed, and then the
failure did something unexpected.

Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 18, 10:55 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Jun 18, 10:09 am, HK wrote:



Go back to inventing stuff that won't sell. You've not got a future as a
commentator.
Poor dumb Harry. He knows nothing about inventing or being technically
creative

Thomas A. Edison:

Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always
America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave
as your fathers before you. Have faith! Go forward!

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent
perspiration.

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't
mean it's useless.

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they
were to success when they gave up.

Nearly every man who develops an idea works it up to the point where
it looks impossible, and then he gets discouraged. That's not the
place to become discouraged

And Henry Ford. Harry, pay special attention to the first one!

A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it.

Even a mistake may turn out to be the one thing necessary to a
worthwhile achievement.

Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more
intelligently.

I cannot discover that anyone knows enough to say definitely what is
and what is not possible.

Good thing these people didn't think like Harry!

Failure can be very profitable too so whenever something does not work
remember it and WHY. Then use that as the basis for something else.
A personal example that Eisboch will probable be familar with.
We once wanted to make a conductive coating that was very shiny and we
would then electroplate gold onto it and then peel of the resulting
gold foil. We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.
Now, I often use this mistake to ensure gold sticks.


Do you a "scientist" who knew more about the subject through formal
education and experimentation might have known the result of electron
beaming evaporated chomium onto glass and the resulting reaction to
electoplated gold?

You sound like a guy who throws crap onto the wall and hopes something
will stick.

On Jun 18, 12:23*pm, HK wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 18, 10:55 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Jun 18, 10:09 am, HK wrote:

Go back to inventing stuff that won't sell. You've not got a future as a
commentator.
Poor dumb Harry. He knows nothing about inventing or being technically
creative

Thomas A. Edison:

Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always
America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave
as your fathers before you. Have faith! Go forward!

Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent
perspiration.

I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.

Just because something doesn't do what you planned it to do doesn't
mean it's useless.

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they
were to success when they gave up.

Nearly every man who develops an idea works it up to the point where
it looks impossible, and then he gets discouraged. That's not the
place to become discouraged

And Henry Ford. Harry, pay special attention to the first one!

A bore is a person who opens his mouth and puts his feats in it.

Even a mistake may turn out to be the one thing necessary to a
worthwhile achievement.

Failure is simply the opportunity to begin again, this time more
intelligently.

I cannot discover that anyone knows enough to say definitely what is
and what is not possible.

Good thing these people didn't think like Harry!

Failure can be very profitable too so whenever something does not work
remember it and WHY. *Then use that as the basis for something else.
A personal example that Eisboch will probable be familar with.
We once wanted to make a conductive coating that was very shiny and we
would then electroplate gold onto it and then peel of the resulting
gold foil. *We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. *Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. *It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.
Now, I often use this mistake to ensure gold sticks.

Do you a "scientist" who knew more about the subject through formal
education and experimentation might have known the result of electron
beaming evaporated chomium onto glass and the resulting reaction to
electoplated gold?


The above diatribe is BARELY English, first of all. Secondly, an
education doesn't mean that everything you touch has a known outcome,
dumb ass.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Failure can be very profitable too so whenever something does not work
remember it and WHY. Then use that as the basis for something else.
A personal example that Eisboch will probable be familar with.
We once wanted to make a conductive coating that was very shiny and we
would then electroplate gold onto it and then peel of the resulting
gold foil. We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.
Now, I often use this mistake to ensure gold sticks.

----------------------------

Nickel is commonly referred to as a "glue" layer for those of you guys that
are into multilayer, thin film coatings.

Side note ... I often thought that thin film engineers sniffed too much
thorium fluoride in their careers. Some are very strange people.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...

Failure can be very profitable too so whenever something does not work
remember it and WHY. Then use that as the basis for something else.
A personal example that Eisboch will probable be familar with.
We once wanted to make a conductive coating that was very shiny and we
would then electroplate gold onto it and then peel of the resulting
gold foil. We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.
Now, I often use this mistake to ensure gold sticks.

----------------------------

Nickel is commonly referred to as a "glue" layer for those of you guys
that are into multilayer, thin film coatings.

Side note ... I often thought that thin film engineers sniffed too much
thorium fluoride in their careers. Some are very strange people.

Eisboch

The glue used on Post-It's was a failure, that turned into a very
profitable product.
--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:55:57 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.

Last I heard, car bumpers were chrome on nickel on copper. So called
triple plate is fairly resistent to peeling, the reason the go to the
trouble.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:55:57 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.

Last I heard, car bumpers were chrome on nickel on copper. So called
triple plate is fairly resistent to peeling, the reason the go to the
trouble.

Casady


Last I heard, car bumpers were paint on plastic.




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"John H" wrote in message
...

Please note that Interstate 90 will be closed this weekend across
South Dakota. This closure will allow the Federal Government free
access to haul a 200 ton piece of coal to Mt. Rushmore so that
President Obama can be added to the Presidents on the monument.
--
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--

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:55:57 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

We electron beam evaporated chromium onto glass because
this made a beautiful surface. Then we electroplated the gold onto
that expecting the gold to peel off, WRONG. It turns out that Chrome
is used as an adhesion layer for gold.

Last I heard, car bumpers were chrome on nickel on copper. So called
triple plate is fairly resistent to peeling, the reason the go to the
trouble.

Casady


Last I heard, car bumpers were paint on plastic.


Do you *ever* think before you speak (or type)? Chrome bumper on a late
model truck here... idiot.

--Mike