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Bearing Buddy Question
I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They
suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
Must have... you can do it yourself.
CM "No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... | I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They | suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" | which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't | installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. | | Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is | it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? | Thanks for any advice.. | | N.S. | | |
Bearing Buddy Question
Definite must have.
Towed that boat thousands of miles and launched/hauled dozens of times each year and never had a problem. I used synthetic grease and repacked them every fall prior to storage. I think I paid $25 for a pair. To install them, remove the dust caps and use a 2 X 4 and hammer to pound them in, just make sure you pound them in evenly. Then use a grease gun to fill the hubs with grease. I have heard it said that the grease will not make it into every void but the air/grease pressure in the hub will help prevent water from being sucked in by the hot bearings as they are cooling down. I always put the grease in just prior to launching the boat (while in the launch prep area) so that they were under maximum pressure.All in all, cheap insurance. Kevin No Spam wrote: I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
My old trailer came with them. Never had any bearing problems.
"No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
No, they are easy to install, I use a wooden mallet (I have an old croquet
mallet) and hammer them onto the wheels after you take off the caps. Then be careful how much grease you pump into them. Not too much, careful not to blow the seals off the inside of the bearing assembly. Only about 2 or 3 pumps from a grease gun and only about every 1000 miles or depending on salt water launching. Use good grease also not that cheap brown stuff. "No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
I agree they are a must have,BUT they do not replace a good spring
repack.It's easy takes about 20 min per wheel and then let the buddies take care of the season."No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
Well worth the $15 to 20. Any dumb bunnie can install them. You need a
hammer and a block of wood. Don't over grease them. There are all kinds of clones of bearing buddies available 99% of trailers use the 1.980 size. No Spam wrote: I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
Excellent accessory. They don't pump the grease, though. You do. One thing:
I think it's nuts to not have your hubs cleaned out thoroughly and regreased before installing the Bearing Buddies. Everything I've read says not to mix different types of grease. If you have the marina do the installation, you can ask them to use the kind of grease you're buying from them. If you take lots of long trips, you need to find a grease application tool that is easy to transport, and doesn't make a mess of the car's trunk or your hands. Otherwise, you won't want to use it. Besides, you only notice that you need grease when there's noplace around to wash the stuff off your hands. I found a good one on the same pegboard as tubes of OMC (brand) grease, but I can't seem to find it anywhere on the web. Mine came from a marina. Imagine a metal tube with a plunger on one end. The other end is placed on the grease fitting of the Bearing Buddy. In the center of the tube is a threaded thing made for the OMC grease to fasten to. (The grease is in a thick plastic toothpaste-tube type of container). So, when attached, the grease container makes the whole contraption into a t-shaped affair. You squeeze the grease from the bottom of the soft container upward so it feeds into the metal tube and then squeeze the plunger. When you're done, you release the pressure from the grease container. That, and the release of the plunger create just enough vacuum to pull any excess grease back into the applicator. Nice & neat. Now that I think of it, it must be made by OMC, since it fits their grease container perfectly. The applicator's about 7" long and no thicker than a screwdriver. That and the grease container fit into a medium-size Rubbermaid rectangular food storage thing. Nice & neat. "No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
"GF" wrote in message
. ca... I agree they are a must have,BUT they do not replace a good spring repack.It's easy takes about 20 min per wheel and then let the buddies take care of the season. Do you have your hubs & bearings totally degreased when you repack, or just wipe out what you can see? |
Bearing Buddy Question
They cant hurt but I seriously doubt they do any good. There are 2 bearings in
there. The "buddy" does a good job on the front one but the back one needs it too. Unless you blow the seal (not good) and force the grease all the way through, your not getting it to the rear bearing. Having them re-packed each year is the best advice. If you truely want to eliminate 99% the problems and maintenance associated with regular bearings, replace them with oil filled hubs. You can get these at West Marine. No more problems then. ;) |
Bearing Buddy (With Photos)
How do I install it? do I hammer out the silver cap from the wheel (see
photos link below)? that sounds scary to me.. i aint a mechanic. so... also, the guy told me bearing buddy comes in different size to fit my hub.. do I bring that silver thing to the marina to buy the right size? thanks... http://members.rogers.com/londonboy/...heel/wheel.jpg N.S. "No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy (With Photos)
At home, are you famous for fixing things quickly and correctly, or do you
try and fix a faucet and end up flooding the basement? :-) And, did you check out the web site? www.bearingbuddy.com If you're really not sure about it, just pay the dealer and be done with it. "No Spam" wrote in message ble.rogers.com... How do I install it? do I hammer out the silver cap from the wheel (see photos link below)? that sounds scary to me.. i aint a mechanic. so... also, the guy told me bearing buddy comes in different size to fit my hub.. do I bring that silver thing to the marina to buy the right size? thanks... http://members.rogers.com/londonboy/...heel/wheel.jpg N.S. "No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy Question
No Spam wrote:
I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. Get them they are worth their weight in gold as far as keeping you bearings greased and water out. |
Bearing Buddy Question
Doug Kanter wrote:
"GF" wrote in message . ca... I agree they are a must have,BUT they do not replace a good spring repack.It's easy takes about 20 min per wheel and then let the buddies take care of the season. Do you have your hubs & bearings totally degreased when you repack, or just wipe out what you can see? Totally clean if possible |
Bearing Buddy Question
Don't forget to replace the seal when you repack. Do not use an automotive
seal, make sure it is a marine seal. To be sure of keeping the grease in, use the Bearing Buddy Spindle Seals. Check their web site. "Gfretwell" wrote in message ... Do you have your hubs & bearings totally degreased when you repack, or just wipe out what you can see? It is best to do a complete clean/repack job when you install the buddies. One problem is lithium and sodium greases are not compatible. If you are not sure what you have you might be mixing them. It is best to pick one brand/type of grease and stick with it. Other than being a little messy this repacking job is really pretty easy for a novice. Just keep everything clean and be sure you work the grease into the bearings before you put it all back together. I usually use 2 big pieces of cardboard, one when I am taking it apart and cleaning, toss that, wash up and start with a clean piece for reassembly. Inspect everything and look for bad spots in your bearings or races. A few small chunks of crud in the bearings and you wasted your time. New bearings are really not that expensive if you don't like what you see. Be sure the whole hub is full of grease if you are using buddies since they depend on a slight positive pressure throughout to keep the water out. When you are greasing them up, watch the plate on the front where the zerk fitting is. Just pump it up until the spring plate is near the front stop. If you pump it out all the way grease will shoot out the overfill port and go everywhere. Worst case is you will pump it in faster than it can escape out the overfill port and you will blow out the rear seal. Go slow! It may take a few trips and a few fillings to get the hubs properly filled. Once they are it doesn't take much to keep the system pressurized. The only down side is your wheels get dirty. |
Bearing Buddy Question
Gfretwell wrote:
Do you have your hubs & bearings totally degreased when you repack, or just wipe out what you can see? It is best to do a complete clean/repack job when you install the buddies. One problem is lithium and sodium greases are not compatible. If you are not sure what you have you might be mixing them. It is best to pick one brand/type of grease and stick with it. Other than being a little messy this repacking job is really pretty easy for a novice. Just keep everything clean and be sure you work the grease into the bearings before you put it all back together. I usually use 2 big pieces of cardboard, one when I am taking it apart and cleaning, toss that, wash up and start with a clean piece for reassembly. Inspect everything and look for bad spots in your bearings or races. A few small chunks of crud in the bearings and you wasted your time. New bearings are really not that expensive if you don't like what you see. Be sure the whole hub is full of grease if you are using buddies since they depend on a slight positive pressure throughout to keep the water out. When you are greasing them up, watch the plate on the front where the zerk fitting is. Just pump it up until the spring plate is near the front stop. If you pump it out all the way grease will shoot out the overfill port and go everywhere. Worst case is you will pump it in faster than it can escape out the overfill port and you will blow out the rear seal. Go slow! It may take a few trips and a few fillings to get the hubs properly filled. Once they are it doesn't take much to keep the system pressurized. The only down side is your wheels get dirty. if your wheels get greasy then your seal must be leaking. The grease point on the bearing buddy should rock back and forth if it does not you have too much grease in the hub and you will blow out the grease seal. |
Bearing Buddy (With Photos)
"No Spam" wrote How do I install it? do I hammer out the silver cap from the wheel (see photos link below)? that sounds scary to me.. i aint a mechanic. so... also, the guy told me bearing buddy comes in different size to fit my hub.. do I bring that silver thing to the marina to buy the right size? thanks... http://members.rogers.com/londonboy/...heel/wheel.jpg N.S. The dust cap comes off rather easily as others have already said. One thing I would like to mentiuon is also purchasing a pair of Bearing Buddy Bras. They are rubber "caps" that fit over the Buddies and keep grease from spreading over your rims and tires. I keep mine in place (cuz I used to lose a few) by securing them with 11" plastic tie straps pulled very tightly. The when I need to re-grease I snip the tie strap and remove the bra, grease it, and put on a new tie strap. Ron. |
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http://www.rverscorner.com/articles/bearing1.html No Spam wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy (With Photos)
Take it to your local NAPA or CARQUEST, you'll spend half the money. And
yes, take the silver grease cap with you. Yank it off with a large pair of channel lock pliers. -- Steve ======================= Remove the not dot from my address to abuse my email box "No Spam" wrote in message ble.rogers.com... How do I install it? do I hammer out the silver cap from the wheel (see photos link below)? that sounds scary to me.. i aint a mechanic. so... also, the guy told me bearing buddy comes in different size to fit my hub.. do I bring that silver thing to the marina to buy the right size? thanks... http://members.rogers.com/londonboy/...heel/wheel.jpg N.S. "No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
Bearing Buddy (With Photos)
"Ackermann" wrote in message ... "No Spam" wrote One thing I would like to mentiuon is also purchasing a pair of Bearing Buddy Bras. They are rubber "caps" that fit over the Buddies and keep grease from spreading over your rims and tires. I keep mine in place (cuz I used to lose a few) by securing them with 11" plastic tie straps pulled very tightly. The when I need to re-grease I snip the tie strap and remove the bra, grease it, and put on a new tie strap. Ron. That's someting I'll second. Before I picked up a pair of those at the Barrie Boat Show a few years ago, I had filthy wheels all the time, and went through a lot of grease. You won't get a thousand miles between adding grease without the bras. The BB throws out a lot! The bras keep everything nice and neat, just like the original caps do. I'll have a look at their site to see how the cleaning thing goes. In 7 years with this trailer, I've not once cleaned them out and repacked, just careful attention to making sure they have grease. Actually, I pump the grease through it till it flows out, and often flush a lot of crappy looking stuff out. What is it that would "blow" from pressure? The retainer cap (held by the spring) looks like metal to me... -- "Stay strong. Be brave. Wait for the signs." Regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario |
Bearing Buddy (With Photos)
Blows out the rear seal. The one at the back of the hub, that rides on the
spindle. Bill "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message .. . "Ackermann" wrote in message ... "No Spam" wrote One thing I would like to mentiuon is also purchasing a pair of Bearing Buddy Bras. They are rubber "caps" that fit over the Buddies and keep grease from spreading over your rims and tires. I keep mine in place (cuz I used to lose a few) by securing them with 11" plastic tie straps pulled very tightly. The when I need to re-grease I snip the tie strap and remove the bra, grease it, and put on a new tie strap. Ron. That's someting I'll second. Before I picked up a pair of those at the Barrie Boat Show a few years ago, I had filthy wheels all the time, and went through a lot of grease. You won't get a thousand miles between adding grease without the bras. The BB throws out a lot! The bras keep everything nice and neat, just like the original caps do. I'll have a look at their site to see how the cleaning thing goes. In 7 years with this trailer, I've not once cleaned them out and repacked, just careful attention to making sure they have grease. Actually, I pump the grease through it till it flows out, and often flush a lot of crappy looking stuff out. What is it that would "blow" from pressure? The retainer cap (held by the spring) looks like metal to me... -- "Stay strong. Be brave. Wait for the signs." Regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario |
Bearing Buddy (With Photos)
Over packing just fills that gap between the two sets of bearings, you can
over fill but you will blow the seal on the inside. That is not necessarily a bad thing, this will give you visual security that there is fresh grease in both sets. Besides it is the heat that is your enemy. When on long trips, periodically feel the hubs for heat. Pump it in as required. I have a 6000lbs boat and trailer system that I have trailered near 30,000 miles on the same set of bearings and dipped it into salt water dozens of times. I do get a mess of grease on the inside wheel rim from over pumping which just messes with the balance but other than that they are fine. Repacking them annually isn't necessary but if you like to do that then that's ok as you will get a visual inspection. Heat and dry are your enemy. Or rather one creates the other. Even though your not mechanically inclined as you suggest, you now know enough to do this job and actually when you do it, it is more reassuring than having the kid at the marina do it. Dont tighten the castle nut too tight before putting cotter pin back in. Mixing the grease is somewhat important not to do. Dont use that brown grease. I use that green colored stuff and actually I also periodically pump a few pumps of graphite grease in also, works for me as I do have over 30,000 miles on the same set of bearings and never had a problem, except I over pump sometimes but I feel better driving on those long jogs. If your driving down some highway and it is hot and sunny and the one side of wheels is getting hit by the sun, what that it doesn't heat up enough to break down the grease to a point where it will overheat. It shouldn't but could mean your castle nut wasn't tight enough. Proper torque is important. "Steve Barker" wrote in message ... Take it to your local NAPA or CARQUEST, you'll spend half the money. And yes, take the silver grease cap with you. Yank it off with a large pair of channel lock pliers. -- Steve ======================= Remove the not dot from my address to abuse my email box "No Spam" wrote in message ble.rogers.com... How do I install it? do I hammer out the silver cap from the wheel (see photos link below)? that sounds scary to me.. i aint a mechanic. so... also, the guy told me bearing buddy comes in different size to fit my hub.. do I bring that silver thing to the marina to buy the right size? thanks... http://members.rogers.com/londonboy/...heel/wheel.jpg N.S. "No Spam" wrote in message le.rogers.com... I went to a local marina, and I asked about maintenance on the trailer. They suggested to me that my trailer needs a product called "Bearing buddy" which can easily pump grease into the hub with a grease gun. I haven't installed it yet coz wanna get some comments from you guys. Any comments on this "Bearing Buddy" product? Is it worthy to install? is it easy to do it myself or should I let the Marina guy to do it for me? Thanks for any advice.. N.S. |
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