On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:31:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Um, six quarts is the "common exact quantity for an oil change". Only
a fool would change oil without changing the filter.

Only a fool would change oil without cutting opening the filter to
check just what it has trapped. When you see glitter, rebuild the
motor. I have the special tool for that. It isn't expensive. Racers
usually have one. We used to change the oil and filter every twenty
minutes or so running time, that is once a week. We used the double
length truck filters.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:31:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Um, six quarts is the "common exact quantity for an oil change". Only
a fool would change oil without changing the filter.

Only a fool would change oil without cutting opening the filter to
check just what it has trapped. When you see glitter, rebuild the
motor. I have the special tool for that. It isn't expensive. Racers
usually have one. We used to change the oil and filter every twenty
minutes or so running time, that is once a week. We used the double
length truck filters.

Casady


You changed the oil every 20 minutes? Must have taken you a hell of a
long time to get anywhere. :)

wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:51:28 -0700, jps wrote:

There isn't a single body of water that I spend time on that'd be
safe to navigate on a pontoon "boat." I'd trust my 11' Whaler before
I'd cross open water on a pontoon.

That is simply because you have never actually been on one in rough
water I suppose. Unless your Whaler is over 18-20', I will go anywhere
you go (and there are a lot of places in shallow water I will go and
you can't). I can run at idle speed in about 12" of water without
chewing up the grass.
The thing we have in common is both are virtually unsinkable., I have
the advantage that when mine is capsized I still have a place to
stand.


I rented a 22' pontoon boat once to cruise on the St. Johns River in
Jax. Rode out towards the jetties. Got a bit choppy on the way back, and
the pontoon boat was a really miserable ride. Wind was blowing it
around, too.

On Jun 7, 1:13*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:51:28 -0700, jps wrote:

There isn't a single body of water that I spend time on that'd *be
safe to navigate on a pontoon "boat." *I'd trust my 11' Whaler before
I'd cross open water on a pontoon.

That is simply because you have never actually been on one in rough
water I suppose. Unless your Whaler is over 18-20', I will go anywhere
you go (and there are a lot of places in shallow water I will go and
you can't). I can run at idle speed in about 12" of water without
chewing up the grass.
The thing we have in common is both are virtually unsinkable., I have
the advantage that when mine is capsized I still have a place to
stand.

I rented a 22' pontoon boat once to cruise on the St. Johns River in
Jax. Rode out towards the jetties. Got a bit choppy on the way back, and
the pontoon boat was a really miserable ride. Wind was blowing it
around, too.

Why did you do that? Wasn't the Hatteras good enough?

Wayne.B wrote:

When the chop is running 2+ even a 27 ft runabout with decent V bottom
deadrise is too small for comfort.

Yeah, if it has a flat bottom.

wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:27:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:07:47 -0400, wrote:

What do you think it would have been like in an 11' whaler?

When I am out with the guys in the 16-17' center consoles in the chop
they are getting tossed around worse than me and when we finally get
up and run, I get wet, they get pounded.
When the chop is running 2+ even a 27 ft runabout with decent V bottom
deadrise is too small for comfort. One of my neighbors had an old 29
ft SeaRay cruiser that ran pretty well in those conditions however.
I think the extra weight makes part of the difference.

You know where I am running. It is rare that I ever see much of
anything that bounces me around. The worst is when you get that combo
of a stiff outgoing tide and a wind in from the west. That puts pretty
big standing waves in Big Carlos pass but I usually just skirt around
the beach line and miss them.

I use my boat for lots of things and having over 100 square feet of
clear deck space is pretty handy. It is certainly a good work boat
when I am doing things for DEP


Ever meet this guy? Pretty area. Never been there.

http://image63.webshots.com/63/9/50/...7oTdvHX_fs.jpg

On Jun 7, 1:11*pm, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:31:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Um, six quarts is the "common exact quantity for an oil change". Only
a fool would change oil without changing the filter.

Only a fool would change oil without cutting opening the filter to
check just what it has trapped. When you see glitter, rebuild the
motor. I have the special tool for that. It isn't expensive. Racers
usually have one. We used to change the oil and filter every twenty
minutes or so running time, that is once a week. We used the double
length truck filters.

Casady

You changed the oil every 20 minutes? Must have taken you a hell of a
long time to get anywhere. * :)

My gawd, you must be border line retarded.

On Jun 7, 8:03*pm, HK wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
When the chop is running 2+ even a 27 ft runabout with decent V bottom
deadrise is too small for comfort.

Yeah, if it has a flat bottom.

"V bottom" you dolt.

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:24:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Well, he had to change his lie. That's what liars do when cornered.
He's now saying he bought oil for a lawnmower by the 5.5 quart
container!!!!!!!! I'm surprised his lie didn't go as far as trying to
tell us he drove his lawnmower down the the quickie lube to have it
done! Trouble is, they are five quart containers!

Good size. Someone must find approximately 4.5 quarts an even quantity
for something. Ever wonder why 55 gal barrels are that size? They hold
fifty gallons of liquid, plus the manditory expansion space.

Casady

Richard Casady wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:24:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Well, he had to change his lie. That's what liars do when cornered.
He's now saying he bought oil for a lawnmower by the 5.5 quart
container!!!!!!!! I'm surprised his lie didn't go as far as trying to
tell us he drove his lawnmower down the the quickie lube to have it
done! Trouble is, they are five quart containers!

Good size. Someone must find approximately 4.5 quarts an even quantity
for something. Ever wonder why 55 gal barrels are that size? They hold
fifty gallons of liquid, plus the manditory expansion space.

Casady


Jugs holding 5.5 quarts of four cycle motor oil are generally available.

Gotta love poor dumb loogy's inability to read: I never said I bought
the jug of oil for my lawn tractor. I have a handful of "machines" here
that use four cycle oil, including the lawn tractor, a couple of cars,
an outboard motor, a small generator, et cetera.

I think loogy must be housebound...either that, or he's never been to an
auto supply store, a Sears or, puke, even the auto parts section of,
puke, Wal-Mart.