On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:47:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

The pontoon with the Yamaha 250 came with a Apollo prop. It's a
stainless 14x21, and has the XHS system that uses an adapter that fits
the prop shaft of the motor, a rubber/metal/plastic hub, and then the
prop fits on that. It makes the props universal, you just buy the hub
kit for your motor.

Anyone have any experience or feedback to offer on these? I ask
because I evidently stripped the hub on mine Sunday. Running in 60
feet of water at 3600 rpm, I throttled up to about 4500, and as it was
coming up the motor suddenly wound up and bounced off the rev limiter
as the boat fell flat. Shut down, checked the prop, it's perfect,
started back up carefully pushing the throttle forward, and it slips
again. Was headed back in anyway, so I idled back in.

Will be pulling the prop this evening, and I have a new hub to
install. The dealer tells me they've seen one other one that chewed
the hub up recently for no reason.

I'm thinking of pushing for a new Yamaha prop. Don't trust the Apollo
now.

You couldn't give me one of those things. I've seen it happen on one
other boat and when these things first were introduced, I had one of a
Bass Cat Panterra with a 200 Merc - I was talked into it when I bought
the boat - first time was the last time - standard SS prop from there
on out.

On Jun 2, 2:34*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:47:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
The pontoon with the Yamaha 250 came with a Apollo prop. *It's a
stainless 14x21, and has the XHS system that uses an adapter that fits
the prop shaft of the motor, a rubber/metal/plastic hub, and then the
prop fits on that. *It makes the props universal, you just buy the hub
kit for your motor.

Anyone have any experience or feedback to offer on these? *I ask
because I evidently stripped the hub on mine Sunday. *Running in 60
feet of water at 3600 rpm, I throttled up to about 4500, and as it was
coming up the motor suddenly wound up and bounced off the rev limiter
as the boat fell flat. *Shut down, checked the prop, it's perfect,
started back up carefully pushing the throttle forward, and it slips
again. *Was headed back in anyway, so I idled back in.

Will be pulling the prop this evening, and I have a new hub to
install. *The dealer tells me they've seen one other one that chewed
the hub up recently for no reason.

I'm thinking of pushing for a new Yamaha prop. *Don't trust the Apollo
now.

You couldn't give me one of those things. I've seen it happen on one
other boat and when these things first were introduced, I had one of a
Bass Cat Panterra with a 200 Merc - I was talked into it when I bought
the boat - first time was the last time - standard SS prop from there
on out.

That's where my head was... I had already mildly complained that the
prop was holding back a little on performance. They were saving a
couple hundred a piece on props with the Apollo's. That's mickey
mouse compared to the cost of an over-rev'd motor, or me being stuck
an hour's ride from the slip.

On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jun 2, 2:34*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:47:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
The pontoon with the Yamaha 250 came with a Apollo prop. *It's a
stainless 14x21, and has the XHS system that uses an adapter that fits
the prop shaft of the motor, a rubber/metal/plastic hub, and then the
prop fits on that. *It makes the props universal, you just buy the hub
kit for your motor.

Anyone have any experience or feedback to offer on these? *I ask
because I evidently stripped the hub on mine Sunday. *Running in 60
feet of water at 3600 rpm, I throttled up to about 4500, and as it was
coming up the motor suddenly wound up and bounced off the rev limiter
as the boat fell flat. *Shut down, checked the prop, it's perfect,
started back up carefully pushing the throttle forward, and it slips
again. *Was headed back in anyway, so I idled back in.

Will be pulling the prop this evening, and I have a new hub to
install. *The dealer tells me they've seen one other one that chewed
the hub up recently for no reason.

I'm thinking of pushing for a new Yamaha prop. *Don't trust the Apollo
now.

You couldn't give me one of those things. I've seen it happen on one
other boat and when these things first were introduced, I had one of a
Bass Cat Panterra with a 200 Merc - I was talked into it when I bought
the boat - first time was the last time - standard SS prop from there
on out.

That's where my head was... I had already mildly complained that the
prop was holding back a little on performance. They were saving a
couple hundred a piece on props with the Apollo's. That's mickey
mouse compared to the cost of an over-rev'd motor, or me being stuck
an hour's ride from the slip.

Up to 75 horse power or so, they make some sense actually. Over that,
in particular with that size and pitch, stainless is the only way to
go.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

On Jun 2, 6:13*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:43:35 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jun 2, 2:34*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:47:34 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
The pontoon with the Yamaha 250 came with a Apollo prop. *It's a
stainless 14x21, and has the XHS system that uses an adapter that fits
the prop shaft of the motor, a rubber/metal/plastic hub, and then the
prop fits on that. *It makes the props universal, you just buy the hub
kit for your motor.

Anyone have any experience or feedback to offer on these? *I ask
because I evidently stripped the hub on mine Sunday. *Running in 60
feet of water at 3600 rpm, I throttled up to about 4500, and as it was
coming up the motor suddenly wound up and bounced off the rev limiter
as the boat fell flat. *Shut down, checked the prop, it's perfect,
started back up carefully pushing the throttle forward, and it slips
again. *Was headed back in anyway, so I idled back in.

Will be pulling the prop this evening, and I have a new hub to
install. *The dealer tells me they've seen one other one that chewed
the hub up recently for no reason.

I'm thinking of pushing for a new Yamaha prop. *Don't trust the Apollo
now.

You couldn't give me one of those things. I've seen it happen on one
other boat and when these things first were introduced, I had one of a
Bass Cat Panterra with a 200 Merc - I was talked into it when I bought
the boat - first time was the last time - standard SS prop from there
on out.

That's where my head was... I had already mildly complained that the
prop was holding back a little on performance. *They were saving a
couple hundred a piece on props with the Apollo's. *That's mickey
mouse compared to the cost of an over-rev'd motor, or me being stuck
an hour's ride from the slip.

Up to 75 horse power or so, they make some sense actually. *Over that,
in particular with that size and pitch, stainless is the only way to
go.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. *:)

This IS a stainless prop, I just don't trust the hub design. After
hearing the dealer and you, say that the hubs have just let go on
their own, I don't want anything to do with it.