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Phil Bolger - Departed
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403
I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 9:57*am, Vic Smith wrote:
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I'm betting Harry will be here saying how he knows him very well, has boated with him, had him luncheon aboard his lobster boat, and got advice from him when he was a competitve sailor. |
Phil Bolger - Departed
Vic Smith wrote:
http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I saw that elsewhere. There were several Bolger-designed sailboats in Milford harbor when I was growing up in that area, including a couple of "sharpies." I wonder if any of those beautiful old wood sailboats are still floating... We had an L16, a beautiful molded ply sailboat designed and built by Bill Luders in Stamford. Luders designed the American Eagle, an America's Cup contender in the mid 1960's that Ted Turner raced successfully around the world. I'll bet Luders and Bolger knew each other. |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 10:15*am, HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I saw that elsewhere. There were several Bolger-designed sailboats in Milford harbor when I was growing up in that area, including a couple of "sharpies." I wonder if any of those beautiful old wood sailboats are still floating... We had an L16, a beautiful molded ply sailboat designed and built by Bill Luders in Stamford. Luders designed the American Eagle, an America's Cup contender in the mid 1960's that Ted Turner raced successfully around the world. I'll bet Luders and Bolger knew each other.. BWAAAHAAAA!!! I knew it.......... |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 12:01*pm, wrote:
On May 28, 10:15*am, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I saw that elsewhere. There were several Bolger-designed sailboats in Milford harbor when I was growing up in that area, including a couple of "sharpies." I wonder if any of those beautiful old wood sailboats are still floating... We had an L16, a beautiful molded ply sailboat designed and built by Bill Luders in Stamford. Luders designed the American Eagle, an America's Cup contender in the mid 1960's that Ted Turner raced successfully around the world. I'll bet Luders and Bolger knew each other. BWAAAHAAAA!!! I knew it..........- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's really funny is 90% of the "****ty rowboats" I have built (according to WAFA) were Bolgers or inspired by Bolger... Now that WAFA wants to be in on the boating post, he all of a sudden thinks Bolger boats are beautiful.. I knew it snerk Harry, WAFA.... Rest in Peace Phil.. You made small boats available to the "non-elite" in the world.. |
Phil Bolger - Departed
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On May 28, 12:01 pm, wrote: On May 28, 10:15 am, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I saw that elsewhere. There were several Bolger-designed sailboats in Milford harbor when I was growing up in that area, including a couple of "sharpies." I wonder if any of those beautiful old wood sailboats are still floating... We had an L16, a beautiful molded ply sailboat designed and built by Bill Luders in Stamford. Luders designed the American Eagle, an America's Cup contender in the mid 1960's that Ted Turner raced successfully around the world. I'll bet Luders and Bolger knew each other. BWAAAHAAAA!!! I knew it..........- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's really funny is 90% of the "****ty rowboats" I have built (according to WAFA) were Bolgers or inspired by Bolger... Now that WAFA wants to be in on the boating post, he all of a sudden thinks Bolger boats are beautiful.. I knew it snerk Harry, WAFA.... Rest in Peace Phil.. You made small boats available to the "non-elite" in the world.. What's really funny is that you think you know what you are talking about here. |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 1:25*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On May 28, 12:01 pm, wrote: On May 28, 10:15 am, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I saw that elsewhere. There were several Bolger-designed sailboats in Milford harbor when I was growing up in that area, including a couple of "sharpies." I wonder if any of those beautiful old wood sailboats are still floating... We had an L16, a beautiful molded ply sailboat designed and built by Bill Luders in Stamford. Luders designed the American Eagle, an America's Cup contender in the mid 1960's that Ted Turner raced successfully around the world. I'll bet Luders and Bolger knew each other. BWAAAHAAAA!!! I knew it..........- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's really funny is 90% of the "****ty rowboats" I have built (according to WAFA) were Bolgers or inspired by Bolger... Now that WAFA wants to be in on the boating post, he all of a sudden thinks Bolger boats are beautiful.. I knew it snerk Harry, WAFA.... Rest in Peace Phil.. You made small boats available to the "non-elite" in the world.. What's really funny is that you think you know what you are talking about here.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's really funny is the fact that I predicted you'd come here and lie about at least some sort of relationship with the builder, and you did! |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 12:30*pm, wrote:
On May 28, 12:01*pm, wrote: On May 28, 10:15*am, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I saw that elsewhere. There were several Bolger-designed sailboats in Milford harbor when I was growing up in that area, including a couple of "sharpies." I wonder if any of those beautiful old wood sailboats are still floating... We had an L16, a beautiful molded ply sailboat designed and built by Bill Luders in Stamford. Luders designed the American Eagle, an America's Cup contender in the mid 1960's that Ted Turner raced successfully around the world. I'll bet Luders and Bolger knew each other. BWAAAHAAAA!!! I knew it..........- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's really funny is 90% of the "****ty rowboats" I have built (according to WAFA) were Bolgers or inspired by Bolger... Now that WAFA wants to be in on the boating post, he all of a sudden thinks Bolger boats are beautiful.. I knew it snerk Harry, WAFA.... Rest in Peace Phil.. You made small boats available to the "non-elite" in the world..- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't know how the same person could have designed ugly ducks like the Micro and AS-29 and beauties like the Chebacco boat and the Lobster Skiff. I like this quote from someone on the WoodenBoat forum: "He designed his death like he designed his boats: ugly, even grotesque to some, but inarguably practical and efficient in the final analysis." R.I.P. Phil |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 2:22*pm, wrote:
On May 28, 1:25*pm, HK wrote: wrote: On May 28, 12:01 pm, wrote: On May 28, 10:15 am, HK wrote: Vic Smith wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. --Vic I saw that elsewhere. There were several Bolger-designed sailboats in Milford harbor when I was growing up in that area, including a couple of "sharpies." I wonder if any of those beautiful old wood sailboats are still floating... We had an L16, a beautiful molded ply sailboat designed and built by Bill Luders in Stamford. Luders designed the American Eagle, an America's Cup contender in the mid 1960's that Ted Turner raced successfully around the world. I'll bet Luders and Bolger knew each other. BWAAAHAAAA!!! I knew it..........- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's really funny is 90% of the "****ty rowboats" I have built (according to WAFA) were Bolgers or inspired by Bolger... Now that WAFA wants to be in on the boating post, he all of a sudden thinks Bolger boats are beautiful.. I knew it snerk Harry, WAFA.... Rest in Peace Phil.. You made small boats available to the "non-elite" in the world.. What's really funny is that you think you know what you are talking about here.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What's really funny is the fact that I predicted you'd come here and lie about at least some sort of relationship with the builder, and you did!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry can chew on this... "Some boats are better than others; but it's not important that they be better," he (P'B) says in a conversation about the uses to which various types are put. He means this "any sort of boat will do" in the general sense that a boat roughly suitable to its purpose can achieve its purpose, and in the social sense that it's good for people to enjoy themselves on the water whatever they're in, so long as they don't get drowned." Phil Bolger.. Rip |
Phil Bolger - Departed
"He designed his death like he designed his boats: ugly, even grotesque to some..." No wonder the freak adores his designs. |
Phil Bolger - Departed
jps wrote:
"He designed his death like he designed his boats: ugly, even grotesque to some..." No wonder the freak adores his designs. The "freak" *used* to build little rowboats for ponds. He built a larger rowboat for himself, gave it a paintjob that defines shoddy, and then defended his sloppy work. Classic "freak." |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 7:33*pm, jps wrote:
"He designed his death like he designed his boats: ugly, even grotesque to some..." No wonder the freak adores his designs. It was more his technique and ability to make a tool work that I liked.. It's complicated, I wouldn't expect you to understand.. Either way, I know you elitists only hate him because he allowed "common" folks to get all in your water, delicious... snerk |
Phil Bolger - Departed
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Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 9:18*pm, HK wrote:
wrote: On May 28, 7:33 pm, jps wrote: "He designed his death like he designed his boats: ugly, even grotesque to some..." No wonder the freak adores his designs. It was more his technique and ability to make a tool work that I liked.. It's complicated, I wouldn't expect you to understand.. Either way, I know you elitists only hate him because he allowed "common" folks to get all in your water, delicious... snerk You really *are* a paranoid p.o.s. *No one here expressed "hatred" for Bolger. snerk |
Phil Bolger - Departed
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Phil Bolger - Departed
On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:18:33 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote: On May 28, 7:33 pm, jps wrote: "He designed his death like he designed his boats: ugly, even grotesque to some..." No wonder the freak adores his designs. It was more his technique and ability to make a tool work that I liked.. It's complicated, I wouldn't expect you to understand.. Either way, I know you elitists only hate him because he allowed "common" folks to get all in your water, delicious... snerk You really *are* a paranoid p.o.s. No one here expressed "hatred" for Bolger. The freak sees hate in the same way a 12 year old. "I hate that!" Ugly and grotesque isn't something I'm attracted to in a boat design. |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 28, 9:42*pm, jps wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:18:33 -0400, HK wrote: wrote: On May 28, 7:33 pm, jps wrote: "He designed his death like he designed his boats: ugly, even grotesque to some..." No wonder the freak adores his designs. It was more his technique and ability to make a tool work that I liked.. It's complicated, I wouldn't expect you to understand.. Either way, I know you elitists only hate him because he allowed "common" folks to get all in your water, delicious... snerk You really *are* a paranoid p.o.s. *No one here expressed "hatred" for Bolger. The freak sees hate in the same way a 12 year old. *"I hate that!" Ugly and grotesque isn't something I'm attracted to in a boat design. Funny as you and your crew are the ones who act like that here, all day, every day while the rest of us are off having lives.... You should try it. |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:57:15 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. I'm sure you have. You either loved Bolger designed boats or hated them - there was no inbetween. He teamed up with a guy I actually got to know pretty well - Harold Payson (sometimes called "Dynamite") and they designed a whole series of stitch/glue plywood boats that became widely accepted as a great way to build a safe, sound boat. The Mystic Seaport held seminars and classes using their designs. Back when I was out of rehab and getting back on my feet as an engineer, Mrs. Wave bought me one of the first Bolger books which pointed me to Payson and I struck up a weekly telephone call with Harold as I built one of the dory designs. Eventualy I traveled up to Maine to meet him and I have all his books, autographed of course. :) That first dory is still floating - it now has a basic sail rig with side boards and sails around Webster Lake in fine fashion. Simple, cheap to build and, as hard as it may be to believe, built to last if you take you time, use quality materials and built it exactly as designed. I spent a lot of really happy hours in my shop building that boat and believe me, it kept me from thinking about other issues. I give that boat a lot of credit and a major assist to the rest of my life. :) |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 29, 6:32*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:57:15 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...px?NewsID=3403 I've run across his name many times in trying to get educated about boats. I suspect some here have been in boats of his design. I'm sure you have. *You either loved Bolger designed boats or hated them - there was no inbetween. He teamed up with a guy I actually got to know pretty well - Harold Payson (sometimes called "Dynamite") and they designed a whole series of stitch/glue plywood boats that became widely accepted as a great way to build a safe, sound boat. The Mystic Seaport held seminars and classes using their designs. Back when I was out of rehab and getting back on my feet as an engineer, Mrs. Wave bought me one of the first Bolger books which pointed me to Payson and I struck up a weekly telephone call with Harold as I built one of the dory designs. Eventualy I traveled up to Maine to meet him and I have all his books, autographed of course. *:) That first dory is still floating - it now has a basic sail rig with side boards and sails around Webster Lake in fine fashion. Simple, cheap to build and, as hard as it may be to believe, built to last if you take you time, use quality materials and built it exactly as designed. *I spent a lot of really happy hours in my shop building that boat and believe me, it kept me from thinking about other issues. I give that boat a lot of credit and a major assist to the rest of my life. *:) Thumbs up! |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:29:03 -0400, HK wrote:
BTW, how long has it been since you put together a little rowboat? Any time I want a little rowboat I can get 12 feet of aluminum under $500. Somthing that will fly with 5 hp. We have one with a steering wheel. Casady |
Phil Bolger - Departed
On May 29, 1:03*pm, Richard Casady
wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:29:03 -0400, HK wrote: BTW, how long has it been since you put together a little rowboat? Any time I want a little rowboat I can get 12 feet of aluminum under $500. Somthing that will fly with 5 hp. We have one with a steering wheel. Casady Less than ten years ago I delivered a small dink to a guy for 200 bucks.. Brandy new, for the kids birthday, it was a special favor, but I only gave up time... |
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