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On Fri, 29 May 2009 07:53:48 -0400, "Eisboch"
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"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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I used you and it as an example over there. Amplify if you get a
chance - over there.
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I just noticed it and replied.

Whoever said they can't do over 65 is full of it. The few times I've
taken it down to the Cape (not towing), I've had to back off at times
because the speed will slowly creep up to 80 without you noticing it.
Also, they only *look* top heavy. They are not.

I get a big kick out of experts who know everything but have no actual
knowledge or experience.

If you end up visiting, you can try it out. That little diesel is
amazing. And, unless you are told it's a diesel, you probably wouldn't
know. I had it running during the annual inspection last year and the
guy doing the inspection thought it was gas. That reminds me. Time for
a new inspection sticker.

Eisboch


Some of us view speed limits as speed limits, especially when towing. If I
exceed the speed limit when towing, it is by a mile an hour or two.

Gotta love the allusions to "over there," especially by the crappers here
who ruined Chuck's joint. :)

I get a kick out of your love of hallucinations..

There - I fixed it for you.

You can thank me later. :)

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On May 29, 6:58*am, John H wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2009 06:52:51 -0400, "Eisboch"
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"HK" wrote in message
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:58:14 -0400, D K
wrote:

Wow! *That 179 HP is just a bit more than half of the 350 HP in my SUV
and the torque is less than half.

What a (chick) machine!

You aren't going to try to tow with that, right?

I think the Navigator is rated at 5500. It has 330 cu in and 300 hp. I
have a one ton boat and no trailer brakes. The heft it has is more
than handy. We tried to pull it behind a Ranger and it didn't like to
stop. I have a 94 horse Mercedes that is rated at 150 tons,
300 if you connect the brakes on the railcars. Whatever
*Casady

Are we supposed to be impressed that Dickqueless Krueger has an SUV with
twice the horsepower of someone else's SUV? Wow...that sure does it for
me, but it doesn't change the indisputable fact that Krueger is snarky,
worthless piece of ****, and worthy only of being filtered out of usenet.

I successfully towed a boat the size and weight of Krueger's behind a V6
Ranger without problems. You don't need a 350 hp SUV to tow a 19-foot
boat.

Engine size is a secondary consideration when towing IMO. *A Ranger 4
cylinder will tow if you use the appropriate gears. * *Weight and suspension
of the tow vehicle is far more important. *A Ranger may be fine for short
range towing of 2 or 3 thousand lbs, but I'd never attempt long range,
highway speed trips. * They just aren't made for it. * The last Ranger I had
was the "beefed up" *Level Two version that had a heavier duty suspension
and tow package. *It was rated for about 6,000 lbs, IIRC. * It still was not
a safe truck for highway towing purposes, even with a light trailer and
load, which is why I traded it in for a F-250. * Huge difference. *Funny
thing is, the V6 Ranger only got about 3-4 mpg better gas mileage than the
F-250 achieves.

I may be a bit picky, but I've done quite a bit of long range towing over
the past 5 or 6 years. *Learned my lesson. * For example, the little
Sprinter RV with a 154hp diesel tows up to 5000 lbs effortlessly and it's
handling is virtually unaffected by the weight of the trailer.

Eisboch

I used you and it as an example over there. Amplify if you get a
chance - over there.
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Hey John, check your email...

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On Fri, 29 May 2009 05:13:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Man, for someone who tried to tell people he had a mechanical
engineering degree, you sure are stupid.

Who has a Mechanical Engineering degree - I'm confused.

Horsepower is far from the only variable in the equation. Take a Ford
8N tractor. I believe 26hp.

Well, that's true for stock, but if you put one of those Offenhauser
engines in it - heh, heh,heh...

One of the members of the Old Iron Tractor Club has one - V8 set up on
a 9N (which is really an 8N - it's a long story).

Seventh from the right in this picture.

http://www.oldirontractorclub.com/tractor_pics.htm

That wide track MTA used to be mine - it belongs to the club treasurer
now. I restored it, including the Torque Amplifier (which was a major
pain in the wazoo I might add), the found out that it was too big to
use around the house. :)

The tractor next to the MTA (to the left) is a very interesting piece
- it has a retrofitted International DT465 with a monster turbo system
- I've seen that thing pull oak trees out of the ground without even
straining.

If on solid ground, I'd pull your boat, AND your SUV around like they
were toys.

I'll have to find the picture. One of the guys in the club has a John
Deere 62 - the fore runner to the L series - and he pulled a 36 inch,
twelve foot long hemlock log around the Annual Plow Day we have every
year - a distance of about a mile.

http://johnnypopper.com/jdgifs/expo/62.jpg

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On Fri, 29 May 2009 09:00:31 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Fri, 29 May 2009 05:13:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Man, for someone who tried to tell people he had a mechanical
engineering degree, you sure are stupid.

Who has a Mechanical Engineering degree - I'm confused.

Horsepower is far from the only variable in the equation. Take a Ford
8N tractor. I believe 26hp.

Well, that's true for stock, but if you put one of those Offenhauser
engines in it - heh, heh,heh...

One of the members of the Old Iron Tractor Club has one - V8 set up on
a 9N (which is really an 8N - it's a long story).

Seventh from the right in this picture.

http://www.oldirontractorclub.com/tractor_pics.htm

That wide track MTA used to be mine - it belongs to the club treasurer
now. I restored it, including the Torque Amplifier (which was a major
pain in the wazoo I might add), the found out that it was too big to
use around the house. :)

The tractor next to the MTA (to the left) is a very interesting piece
- it has a retrofitted International DT465 with a monster turbo system
- I've seen that thing pull oak trees out of the ground without even
straining.

If on solid ground, I'd pull your boat, AND your SUV around like they
were toys.

I'll have to find the picture. One of the guys in the club has a John
Deere 62 - the fore runner to the L series - and he pulled a 36 inch,
twelve foot long hemlock log around the Annual Plow Day we have every
year - a distance of about a mile.

http://johnnypopper.com/jdgifs/expo/62.jpg

Forgot to mention - he had to rebuild the clutch after, but he did
pull it. :)

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On Fri, 29 May 2009 06:34:42 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Probably depends on the year. I was surprised that my wife's Navigator is
"rated" to tow 7400 lbs.
Don't think I'd want to though. A Navigator is basically a softly sprung
F-150.

The difference is the motor. Four cams, four valves per cylinder.
Hardly necessary for a glorified truck. Still, we got 175 000 out of
the first motor. The check engine light came on, so we found the
leaking valve guide. I figured the thing was about to begin to nickle
and dime us to death, so we put in a rebuilt motor. It might have gone
tens of thousands of miles more, maybe, if it hadn't been for that
light. We reused the old starter and it promply crapped out. The days
of five buck junkyard starters are long gone.

Casady

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On Fri, 29 May 2009 06:51:45 -0400, jim785 wrote:

Of course you don't. My 22HP lawn tractor could pull your Parker.
Wheelbase, weight, frame, strength, and brakes are the key issues when

Weight you say?

There are a lot of small aircraft tugs with two inch thick rear
fenders.

Casadt

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On May 29, 9:00*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2009 05:13:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Man, for someone who tried to tell people he had a mechanical
engineering degree, you sure are stupid.

Who has a Mechanical Engineering degree - I'm confused.

Horsepower is far from the only variable in the equation. Take a Ford
8N tractor. I believe 26hp.

Well, that's true for stock, but if you put one of those Offenhauser
engines in it - heh, heh,heh...

One of the members of the Old Iron Tractor Club has one - V8 set up on
a 9N (which is really an 8N - it's a long story).

Seventh from the right in this picture.

http://www.oldirontractorclub.com/tractor_pics.htm

That wide track MTA used to be mine - it belongs to the club treasurer
now. I restored it, including the Torque Amplifier (which was a major
pain in the wazoo I might add), the found out that it was too big to
use around the house. *:)

The tractor next to the MTA (to the left) is a very interesting piece
- it has a retrofitted International DT465 with a monster turbo system
- I've seen that thing pull oak trees out of the ground without even
straining.

If on solid ground, I'd pull your boat, AND your SUV around like they
were toys.

I'll have to find the picture. One of the guys in the club has a John
Deere 62 - the fore runner to the L series - and he pulled a 36 inch,
twelve foot long hemlock log around the Annual Plow Day we have every
year - a distance of about a mile.

http://johnnypopper.com/jdgifs/expo/62.jpg

That's good stuff and brings back a lot of memories, living around
farm country. My uncle's father had a Minneapolis Moline with a hand
clutch. Weird thing, you almost stood up on the back, the seat was
more kind of leaning on than sitting on! It was big.

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"jim785" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:58:14 -0400, D K
wrote:

Wow! That 179 HP is just a bit more than half of the 350 HP in my SUV
and the torque is less than half.

What a (chick) machine!

You aren't going to try to tow with that, right?

I think the Navigator is rated at 5500. It has 330 cu in and 300 hp. I
have a one ton boat and no trailer brakes. The heft it has is more
than handy. We tried to pull it behind a Ranger and it didn't like to
stop.
I have a 94 horse Mercedes that is rated at 150 tons,
300 if you connect the brakes on the railcars. Whatever
Casady


Are we supposed to be impressed that Dickqueless Krueger has an SUV with
twice the horsepower of someone else's SUV? Wow...that sure does it for
me, but it doesn't change the indisputable fact that Krueger is snarky,
worthless piece of ****, and worthy only of being filtered out of usenet.

I successfully towed a boat the size and weight of Krueger's behind a V6
Ranger without problems. You don't need a 350 hp SUV to tow a 19-foot
boat.

Of course you don't. My 22HP lawn tractor could pull your Parker.
Wheelbase, weight, frame, strength, and brakes are the key issues when
selecting a tow vehicle. ALL SUVs are terrible tow vehicles. My wife's,
chic car CRV, on the other hand is an excellent towed vehicle. The petrol
per KM we get on it is astounding.

What...
I could swear that the Honda CRV is not meant to be towed. Looked it up
when another poster was wondering what small SUV could be towed behind a RV

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2009 08:28:17 -0400, HK wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2009 08:18:16 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Had an afterthought. If you want to feel unsafe in even mildly windy days,
you should try driving the '65 VW bus.
If someone sneezes in a car beside you with an open window, you go off the
road.

Don't doubt that. Even the '64 bug I had was the diciest thing I ever
drove in the wind. A semi passing would move it a foot.

--Vic


After my MGA died when I worked at the KC Star, I bought a new Bug.
Might have been a 65. $1350 including FM radio. Anyway, the assignment
editor had me running to small towns in Missouri for the sort of color
feature stories the paper liked in those days. Lots of two lane roads,
lots of trucks coming the other way. Many a time I thought the Bug was
going to go into low earth orbit.

I can report, however, that it was possible to get laid in the back seat
of a VW. In Columbia, Missouri, in the parking lot of a dorm at
Christian College.

I'm sure that'll go over real good here.
I bought a passenger seat recliner hinge setup at Warshawsky so I
could sleep in mine when I traveled to Portland, OR.
Tall as I am and endowed as I am it would be impossible to do anything
useful in the back of a bug.

--Vic


I'm about 6'/2.5" now. I used to be 6'3"...but who knows where that half
inch has gone?

Columbia, Missouri was "the" place to go for a road trip in those
days...lotsa gals at Mizzou, plus Christian College and Stephens
College, in those days, women students only. My KC girlfriend in those
days went to Mizzou for her degree, so I spend considerable time Friday
nights getting there, and then coming back so I could at work by 4:30
Sunday afternoon.

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"jim785" wrote in message
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Where the heck is over there?

BTW:
http://www.clarku.edu/~djoyce/trig/what.html


Still not invited..........
the management 'over there' must be an excellent judge of character!