I always enjoy these guys
 

On May 25, 6:33*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:



On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:17:23 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 21:52:14 -0400, BAR wrote:

Tuesday evenings at the Iwo Jima memorial will again see the Comadant's
Own and the Silent Drill team, now that we are into the summer season.

You know - I've never seen that.

I haven't been to The Wall yet either - don't think I will either.

I didn't visit the wall for many years. Eventually I realized it was
just fear that was keeping me away. I was afraid of what my reaction
might be. Like Eisboch, it took a Rolling Thunder in the early 90's to
get me there.

But, I'm sure glad I went, and I take anyone that visits to see it.

I hear you and having somebody with you helps too - even strangers. To
me it's really something very personal and I just don't want to share
that with anybody else.

Strange I know, but that's the way of it.

Not strange at all, guys. i haven't been and it's because I haven't
really had the opertunity to go, even though I have two friends and a
relative there. I've seen the mobile wall a couple of times, and
that's a good perspective, but I take it, it isn't liek visiting the
real one.

Being one who never served in battle, I either can or can't appreciate
the emotions of those who have. But I do understand comradery .

But I can understand that visiting is a personal matter for those who
know.


"War is Hell"- W.T. Sherman


But I found this as well. Most defining.

""I am sick and tired of war. Its glory is all moonshine.
It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard
the shrieks and groans of the wounded
who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
War is hell."

From "On Killing" by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman

I always enjoy these guys
 

On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:33:01 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:17:23 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 21:52:14 -0400, BAR wrote:

Tuesday evenings at the Iwo Jima memorial will again see the Comadant's
Own and the Silent Drill team, now that we are into the summer season.

You know - I've never seen that.

I haven't been to The Wall yet either - don't think I will either.

I didn't visit the wall for many years. Eventually I realized it was
just fear that was keeping me away. I was afraid of what my reaction
might be. Like Eisboch, it took a Rolling Thunder in the early 90's to
get me there.

But, I'm sure glad I went, and I take anyone that visits to see it.

I hear you and having somebody with you helps too - even strangers. To
me it's really something very personal and I just don't want to share
that with anybody else.

Strange I know, but that's the way of it.

Not strange. Very understandable.

God Bless.
--

John H

I always enjoy these guys
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 May 2009 01:19:47 -0400, BAR wrote:

BAR wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 21:52:14 -0400, BAR wrote:

Tuesday evenings at the Iwo Jima memorial will again see the
Comadant's Own and the Silent Drill team, now that we are into the
summer season.

You know - I've never seen that.

I haven't been to The Wall yet either - don't think I will either.

I know The Wall has deep meaning for those who served in SEA in that
era. But, when you do a 180 and walk across to the Korean War Memorial
it is chilling, very chilling. Pictures and descriptions just don't do
justice to the Korean War Memorial.

There is a book about the Korean war written by Martin Russ called The
Last Parallel. The last paragraph puts the who book into perspective.

Correction: It is Breakout: The Chosin Reservoir Campaign, Korea 1950.
Written by Martin Russ.

Good thing I looked ahead. :)

Yeah - I've read it - required reading in my opinion.



My TI at Lackland in basic training had formerly been a Marine serving at
Frozen Chosin. Sgt. Buck Bosell (sp?). A great person and trainer. WE
were the last flight he trained. He became the head TI of the USAF after
us.

I always enjoy these guys
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 May 2009 07:15:38 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:17:23 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Sun, 24 May 2009 21:52:14 -0400, BAR wrote:

Tuesday evenings at the Iwo Jima memorial will again see the Comadant's
Own and the Silent Drill team, now that we are into the summer season.

You know - I've never seen that.

I haven't been to The Wall yet either - don't think I will either.

I didn't visit the wall for many years. Eventually I realized it was
just fear that was keeping me away. I was afraid of what my reaction
might be. Like Eisboch, it took a Rolling Thunder in the early 90's to
get me there.

But, I'm sure glad I went, and I take anyone that visits to see it.

I hear you and having somebody with you helps too - even strangers. To
me it's really something very personal and I just don't want to share
that with anybody else.

Strange I know, but that's the way of it.

I understand it very well. Very good friend, his daughter lived with us
part of her college years, and his wife is my wife's best friend from
grammer school. He is a West Pointer, and was stationed in DC and still has
not gone to The Wall. Sometimes I think it must have even been worse for an
officer, than an enlisted man.

I always enjoy these guys
 

On Mon, 25 May 2009 10:54:03 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 25 May 2009 01:19:47 -0400, BAR wrote:

BAR wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 21:52:14 -0400, BAR wrote:

Tuesday evenings at the Iwo Jima memorial will again see the
Comadant's Own and the Silent Drill team, now that we are into the
summer season.

You know - I've never seen that.

I haven't been to The Wall yet either - don't think I will either.

I know The Wall has deep meaning for those who served in SEA in that
era. But, when you do a 180 and walk across to the Korean War Memorial
it is chilling, very chilling. Pictures and descriptions just don't do
justice to the Korean War Memorial.

There is a book about the Korean war written by Martin Russ called The
Last Parallel. The last paragraph puts the who book into perspective.

Correction: It is Breakout: The Chosin Reservoir Campaign, Korea 1950.
Written by Martin Russ.

Good thing I looked ahead. :)

Yeah - I've read it - required reading in my opinion.

My TI at Lackland in basic training had formerly been a Marine serving at
Frozen Chosin. Sgt. Buck Bosell (sp?). A great person and trainer. WE
were the last flight he trained. He became the head TI of the USAF after
us.

It's interesting - a lot of the more senior NCOs (E5 and up) I met at
Kessler were former Marines - do like 6 to 8 years in the Corps, then
transfer over to the AF.

I heard once that the AF went looking for former Marine NCOs during
the mid-60s because they were losing a lot of the WWII Army Air Corps
NCOs to retirement. Don't know if that's true or not.

I always enjoy these guys
 

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 May 2009 10:54:03 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 25 May 2009 01:19:47 -0400, BAR wrote:

BAR wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 21:52:14 -0400, BAR wrote:

Tuesday evenings at the Iwo Jima memorial will again see the
Comadant's Own and the Silent Drill team, now that we are into the
summer season.

You know - I've never seen that.

I haven't been to The Wall yet either - don't think I will either.

I know The Wall has deep meaning for those who served in SEA in that
era. But, when you do a 180 and walk across to the Korean War Memorial
it is chilling, very chilling. Pictures and descriptions just don't do
justice to the Korean War Memorial.

There is a book about the Korean war written by Martin Russ called The
Last Parallel. The last paragraph puts the who book into perspective.

Correction: It is Breakout: The Chosin Reservoir Campaign, Korea 1950.
Written by Martin Russ.

Good thing I looked ahead. :)

Yeah - I've read it - required reading in my opinion.

My TI at Lackland in basic training had formerly been a Marine serving at
Frozen Chosin. Sgt. Buck Bosell (sp?). A great person and trainer. WE
were the last flight he trained. He became the head TI of the USAF after
us.

It's interesting - a lot of the more senior NCOs (E5 and up) I met at
Kessler were former Marines - do like 6 to 8 years in the Corps, then
transfer over to the AF.

I heard once that the AF went looking for former Marine NCOs during
the mid-60s because they were losing a lot of the WWII Army Air Corps
NCOs to retirement. Don't know if that's true or not.

I think after Korea, there may not have been enough billets for NCO's in the
Marines, and the USAF had slots. Friend of the family was an officer bomber
pilot during WW2 and had to go back to enlisted to stay in the service in
the late 1940's.