On Sat, 23 May 2009 07:01:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.


I know from experience that the electric fence systems used for horse
paddocks and pastures is upwards of 5000 volts or more. Very little current
obviously, but enough to catch your attention if you happen to accidently
touch it.

I, for one, am not interested in testing the **** on it theory.

Eisboch

The proper way to test the fence is to pick a live blade of grass or
weed about a foot long. While holding it, touch it to the fence at the
tip. If nothing is felt, touch it about halfway up. If still nothing,
touch it about an inch or two from your fingers. If still nothing, the
fence is not 'hot'.

If anything is felt, it will be only a small 'tingle'.

From a farm boy.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

On May 23, 10:27*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 07:01:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:







"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. *Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

I know from experience that the electric fence systems used for horse
paddocks and pastures is upwards of 5000 volts or more. *Very little current
obviously, but enough to catch your attention if you happen to accidently
touch it.

I, for one, am not interested in testing the **** on it theory.

Eisboch

The proper way to test the fence is to pick a live blade of grass or
weed about a foot long. While holding it, touch it to the fence at the
tip. If nothing is felt, touch it about halfway up. If still nothing,
touch it about an inch or two from your fingers. If still nothing, the
fence is not 'hot'.

If anything is felt, it will be only a small 'tingle'.

From a farm boy.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson- Hide quoted text -

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When I was a kid I was always getting shocked by fences! One time (and
one time ONLY!) I tried to crawl under a fence, while crawling in our
creek. Yep, hands and legs in water, when my backed brushed the fence!

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:35:36 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

You are the one who stated a nuke holocaust. Why need a radio, when
everything that is going to transmit is EMPed out of service.

Have you not seen "Independance Day"? :)

Tube radios and Morse Code saves the day.

Cretin. :)

Luddite :}

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

Nope, the hose in my front yard. No nozzle or thumb on the end and a solid
stream of water hits the ground.

On Sat, 23 May 2009 11:37:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

Nope, the hose in my front yard. No nozzle or thumb on the end and a solid
stream of water hits the ground.

Mythbusters is creating myths. I've seen the idea that a solid stream
of water is disconnected droplets all over the place.
Most cite Mythbusters as their source.
You can see the Mythbusters test on Youtube. Junk science.
In the first test the stream of **** looked like what you'd see from a
90-year old codger with a swollen prostate, and dying of thirst.
When they increased the stream strength and put the dummy closer
to the rail, the dummy was zapped.
They never did a realistic test from what I saw.
Show business.
Anybody here who remembers ****ing 20 feet in ****ing contests
as a kid or ****ing after a few quarts of beer knows there can be a
big difference in streams of ****. Health and body plumbing
capacities widely vary.
And then there are....ahem...other anatomical differences to consider.
I don't think these 2 nerds know crap about ****.
They should stick to strapping JATO engines on Chevys and trying
to stick them into cliff sides.
That's my kind of science!

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 11:37:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

Nope, the hose in my front yard. No nozzle or thumb on the end and a
solid
stream of water hits the ground.

Mythbusters is creating myths. I've seen the idea that a solid stream
of water is disconnected droplets all over the place.
Most cite Mythbusters as their source.
You can see the Mythbusters test on Youtube. Junk science.
In the first test the stream of **** looked like what you'd see from a
90-year old codger with a swollen prostate, and dying of thirst.
When they increased the stream strength and put the dummy closer
to the rail, the dummy was zapped.
They never did a realistic test from what I saw.
Show business.
Anybody here who remembers ****ing 20 feet in ****ing contests
as a kid or ****ing after a few quarts of beer knows there can be a
big difference in streams of ****. Health and body plumbing
capacities widely vary.
And then there are....ahem...other anatomical differences to consider.
I don't think these 2 nerds know crap about ****.
They should stick to strapping JATO engines on Chevys and trying
to stick them into cliff sides.
That's my kind of science!

--Vic

Mythbusters is local to me. My welding instructor flinches every time they
get out the welder. Says a prime example of what not to do.

On Sat, 23 May 2009 15:00:06 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 23 May 2009 11:37:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

Nope, the hose in my front yard. No nozzle or thumb on the end and a solid
stream of water hits the ground.

Mythbusters is creating myths. I've seen the idea that a solid stream
of water is disconnected droplets all over the place.
Most cite Mythbusters as their source.
You can see the Mythbusters test on Youtube. Junk science.
In the first test the stream of **** looked like what you'd see from a
90-year old codger with a swollen prostate, and dying of thirst.
When they increased the stream strength and put the dummy closer
to the rail, the dummy was zapped.
They never did a realistic test from what I saw.
Show business.
Anybody here who remembers ****ing 20 feet in ****ing contests
as a kid or ****ing after a few quarts of beer knows there can be a
big difference in streams of ****. Health and body plumbing
capacities widely vary.
And then there are....ahem...other anatomical differences to consider.
I don't think these 2 nerds know crap about ****.
They should stick to strapping JATO engines on Chevys and trying
to stick them into cliff sides.
That's my kind of science!

--Vic

I think you're being pretty cruel to us old guys with prostates
resembling grapefruits.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson

On Sat, 23 May 2009 16:38:33 -0400, John H
wrote:



I think you're being pretty cruel to us old guys with prostates
resembling grapefruits.

Why? You can **** on 3rd rails without getting zapped.
So that's an advantage.
BTW, my grandad died when prostate cancer spread - he was 85.
My dad got chemoed/radiated it for it at about 78. He's ok.
About 7-8 years ago I was taking forever to finish up ****ing, then
leaking right afterwards.
The doc's finger showed a swollen prostate and he gave me a month's
worth of Cardura.
Fixed me right up, and I never took it again.
Since then he says it's normal sized.
Go figure. Puzzles him.

--Vic

"John H" wrote in message
...

The proper way to test the fence is to pick a live blade of grass or
weed about a foot long. While holding it, touch it to the fence at the
tip. If nothing is felt, touch it about halfway up. If still nothing,
touch it about an inch or two from your fingers. If still nothing, the
fence is not 'hot'.

If anything is felt, it will be only a small 'tingle'.

From a farm boy.
--

John H


I have no problem quickly brushing my fingers on the wires on Mrs.E.'s
electric fence to see if it's on.
It's just the surprises that bother me. She rarely turns them on anymore
anyway. The horses learn to stay clear.
I am just not ready to **** on the wire yet. After a couple of Sam Adams's
Lager, mine's not a stream of droplets.

Eisboch

On Sat, 23 May 2009 17:54:50 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Sat, 23 May 2009 16:38:33 -0400, John H
wrote:



I think you're being pretty cruel to us old guys with prostates
resembling grapefruits.

Why? You can **** on 3rd rails without getting zapped.
So that's an advantage.

My gosh, there's an advantage that I'd never thought of!

BTW, my grandad died when prostate cancer spread - he was 85.
My dad got chemoed/radiated it for it at about 78. He's ok.
About 7-8 years ago I was taking forever to finish up ****ing, then
leaking right afterwards.
The doc's finger showed a swollen prostate and he gave me a month's
worth of Cardura.
Fixed me right up, and I never took it again.
Since then he says it's normal sized.
Go figure. Puzzles him.

--Vic

Mine offerred me the pills, but told me I'd have to stop drinking
coffee. I politely told him to keep the pills.

A little over-watering isn't going to kill any of the trees on the
golf course.
--
John H

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those
who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson