"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 13:12:00 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

Kinda like tricking some fool into ****ing on an Electric Fence.

Hurt much worse than touching an electric fence. Was smart enough to not
**** on one.

Actually, you can do it as much as you want - you'd have to be almost
touching it to be shocked by it.

Water breaks up almost immediately after being...er...released. It's
why you can fight a fire or protect exposures even having live wires
in the vicinity.

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.


I know from experience that the electric fence systems used for horse
paddocks and pastures is upwards of 5000 volts or more. Very little current
obviously, but enough to catch your attention if you happen to accidently
touch it.

I, for one, am not interested in testing the **** on it theory.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.


I know from experience that the electric fence systems used for horse
paddocks and pastures is upwards of 5000 volts or more. Very little
current obviously, but enough to catch your attention if you happen to
accidently touch it.

I, for one, am not interested in testing the **** on it theory.

Eisboch

You should give it a try to touch the fence. It does get your
attention, but it really isn't bad for two reasons. While it has 5000
volts, it has very low amperage, and the second reason is the ground is
use as the negative pole. If you are wearing rubber soled shoes, you
really are protected from completing a good circuit. You can feel it,
but it is not as strong as a zap as the animal (who is not wearing
rubber soled shoes) will gets when he touches the wire.

--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
no way are to be considered flaws or defects

On Sat, 23 May 2009 07:01:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.


I know from experience that the electric fence systems used for horse
paddocks and pastures is upwards of 5000 volts or more. Very little current
obviously, but enough to catch your attention if you happen to accidently
touch it.

I, for one, am not interested in testing the **** on it theory.

Eisboch

The proper way to test the fence is to pick a live blade of grass or
weed about a foot long. While holding it, touch it to the fence at the
tip. If nothing is felt, touch it about halfway up. If still nothing,
touch it about an inch or two from your fingers. If still nothing, the
fence is not 'hot'.

If anything is felt, it will be only a small 'tingle'.

From a farm boy.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson

On May 23, 10:27*am, John H wrote:
On Sat, 23 May 2009 07:01:15 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:







"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. *Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

I know from experience that the electric fence systems used for horse
paddocks and pastures is upwards of 5000 volts or more. *Very little current
obviously, but enough to catch your attention if you happen to accidently
touch it.

I, for one, am not interested in testing the **** on it theory.

Eisboch

The proper way to test the fence is to pick a live blade of grass or
weed about a foot long. While holding it, touch it to the fence at the
tip. If nothing is felt, touch it about halfway up. If still nothing,
touch it about an inch or two from your fingers. If still nothing, the
fence is not 'hot'.

If anything is felt, it will be only a small 'tingle'.

From a farm boy.
--

John H

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
results from too much government."

Thomas Jefferson- Hide quoted text -

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When I was a kid I was always getting shocked by fences! One time (and
one time ONLY!) I tried to crawl under a fence, while crawling in our
creek. Yep, hands and legs in water, when my backed brushed the fence!

"John H" wrote in message
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The proper way to test the fence is to pick a live blade of grass or
weed about a foot long. While holding it, touch it to the fence at the
tip. If nothing is felt, touch it about halfway up. If still nothing,
touch it about an inch or two from your fingers. If still nothing, the
fence is not 'hot'.

If anything is felt, it will be only a small 'tingle'.

From a farm boy.
--

John H


I have no problem quickly brushing my fingers on the wires on Mrs.E.'s
electric fence to see if it's on.
It's just the surprises that bother me. She rarely turns them on anymore
anyway. The horses learn to stay clear.
I am just not ready to **** on the wire yet. After a couple of Sam Adams's
Lager, mine's not a stream of droplets.

Eisboch

"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

Nope, the hose in my front yard. No nozzle or thumb on the end and a solid
stream of water hits the ground.

On Sat, 23 May 2009 11:37:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

Nope, the hose in my front yard. No nozzle or thumb on the end and a solid
stream of water hits the ground.

Mythbusters is creating myths. I've seen the idea that a solid stream
of water is disconnected droplets all over the place.
Most cite Mythbusters as their source.
You can see the Mythbusters test on Youtube. Junk science.
In the first test the stream of **** looked like what you'd see from a
90-year old codger with a swollen prostate, and dying of thirst.
When they increased the stream strength and put the dummy closer
to the rail, the dummy was zapped.
They never did a realistic test from what I saw.
Show business.
Anybody here who remembers ****ing 20 feet in ****ing contests
as a kid or ****ing after a few quarts of beer knows there can be a
big difference in streams of ****. Health and body plumbing
capacities widely vary.
And then there are....ahem...other anatomical differences to consider.
I don't think these 2 nerds know crap about ****.
They should stick to strapping JATO engines on Chevys and trying
to stick them into cliff sides.
That's my kind of science!

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 May 2009 11:37:22 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 22 May 2009 21:38:35 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

I have seen solid streams hit the ground just like from a hose without a
nozzle. Fire hoses spray.

Sorry - nope.

Even under high pressure/large volume, like a deluge gun you see on
top of some tower and ladder systems, the stream isn't strong enough
to resist air pressure and breaks up almost immediately.

Now, having said that, it is possible if you crank up to super high
voltage AND current, but even then it's problematic.

Nope, the hose in my front yard. No nozzle or thumb on the end and a
solid
stream of water hits the ground.

Mythbusters is creating myths. I've seen the idea that a solid stream
of water is disconnected droplets all over the place.
Most cite Mythbusters as their source.
You can see the Mythbusters test on Youtube. Junk science.
In the first test the stream of **** looked like what you'd see from a
90-year old codger with a swollen prostate, and dying of thirst.
When they increased the stream strength and put the dummy closer
to the rail, the dummy was zapped.
They never did a realistic test from what I saw.
Show business.
Anybody here who remembers ****ing 20 feet in ****ing contests
as a kid or ****ing after a few quarts of beer knows there can be a
big difference in streams of ****. Health and body plumbing
capacities widely vary.
And then there are....ahem...other anatomical differences to consider.
I don't think these 2 nerds know crap about ****.
They should stick to strapping JATO engines on Chevys and trying
to stick them into cliff sides.
That's my kind of science!

--Vic

Mythbusters is local to me. My welding instructor flinches every time they
get out the welder. Says a prime example of what not to do.