HK wrote:
wrote:
On May 19, 11:17 am, jim7856 wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:



HK wrote:
wrote:
On May 19, 10:01 am, wrote:
On May 19, 9:50 am, jim7856 wrote:
It's supposed to stop raining a week from Thursday at which time
you
might even see some of that famous Florida sunshine.
Pass it on to Harry. :-)
And it rained all day there yesterday, when Harry took his alleged
photo.
Pffffftttt...
Loogy is full of **** as usual. Yesterday was lovely here until about
2:30 pm, when the heavens broke loose and it rained continuously until
about 9 pm.
Right now, where we are, the sky is overcast and there's a little
breeze, but no rain.
Not easy shooting between the palms:
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ction=view¤t=f...
It is amazing that when Harry goes on vacation, he posts as often as
when he is at home. My guess is Karen is glad she can just leave him
in the motel room, and enjoy herself.
Could be that she is there on business and he's just a tag-a-long. Has
anyone checked to see if there are any conferences or conventions going
on there currently? It would be funny if something brick layer related
is going on at the resort.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Could be just another "nice Owl"!
snerk


What it could be is that about 10 years ago, we bought into the Disney
Vacation Club, which is a timeshare ala Disney, and therefore no funny
business and no monkey business, really nice resorts and access to a lot
of places that are not Disney resorts. We've got a *lot* of points in
the Club and now that my wife is virtually out of school for the first
time in about a decade, we have the time to take a few vacations a year.

We both like Disney resorts, though as I once stated, I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard. The land-based resorts outside of WDW have activities
for the kiddies, but are much more adult-oriented. This is the third
non-theme-park WDW resort we have visited.

Much more comfy than sleeping in a camper or a tent, eh?

Virtual wife out of school?

HK wrote:
wrote:
On May 19, 11:17 am, jim7856 wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq. wrote:



HK wrote:
wrote:
On May 19, 10:01 am, wrote:
On May 19, 9:50 am, jim7856 wrote:
It's supposed to stop raining a week from Thursday at which time
you
might even see some of that famous Florida sunshine.
Pass it on to Harry. :-)
And it rained all day there yesterday, when Harry took his alleged
photo.
Pffffftttt...
Loogy is full of **** as usual. Yesterday was lovely here until about
2:30 pm, when the heavens broke loose and it rained continuously until
about 9 pm.
Right now, where we are, the sky is overcast and there's a little
breeze, but no rain.
Not easy shooting between the palms:
http://s21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ction=view¤t=f...
It is amazing that when Harry goes on vacation, he posts as often as
when he is at home. My guess is Karen is glad she can just leave him
in the motel room, and enjoy herself.
Could be that she is there on business and he's just a tag-a-long. Has
anyone checked to see if there are any conferences or conventions going
on there currently? It would be funny if something brick layer related
is going on at the resort.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Could be just another "nice Owl"!
snerk


What it could be is that about 10 years ago, we bought into the Disney
Vacation Club, which is a timeshare ala Disney, and therefore no funny
business and no monkey business, really nice resorts and access to a lot
of places that are not Disney resorts. We've got a *lot* of points in
the Club and now that my wife is virtually out of school for the first
time in about a decade, we have the time to take a few vacations a year.

We both like Disney resorts, though as I once stated, I wouldn't take a
Disney cruise if you paid me because of the number of uncontrolled
rugrats onboard. The land-based resorts outside of WDW have activities
for the kiddies, but are much more adult-oriented. This is the third
non-theme-park WDW resort we have visited.

Much more comfy than sleeping in a camper or a tent, eh?


I often wondered who fell for those timeshare ripoffs. Now I know.

Unless you purchase the timeshare from an individual who was trying to
get out from underneath the annual fees and maintenance cost you have
been ripped off. Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.

http://clarkhoward.com/shownotes/category/10/64/208/






--
Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.

This Newsgroup post is a natural product. The slight variations in
spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in
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wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.

It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.



It sorta depends on what you get, how much you pay for it, and whether
you can take full advantage of what is offered. Currently, the Disney
time shares similar to what we have are selling on the resale market for
three times what we paid for ours about 10 years ago, even in today's
sucky economy. I didn't have a "note," as we paid for the share in cash.

On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:29:30 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.

It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.



It sorta depends on what you get, how much you pay for it, and whether
you can take full advantage of what is offered. Currently, the Disney
time shares similar to what we have are selling on the resale market for
three times what we paid for ours about 10 years ago, even in today's
sucky economy. I didn't have a "note," as we paid for the share in cash.

My folks did the same in Mexico 25 years ago. We went with them for
years and really enjoyed it. Listened to their pitch several times
and agree with your take. If you can take advantage of it, depending
on the price, it can be worth it.

I've looked on ebay for timeshares in the same area of Mexico and
(prior to swine flu scare) found that many people are happy to unload
them for next to nothing to avoid the yearly maintenance fees.

I expect between flu and drug cartel news that Mexican timeshares are
pesos to the dollar.

wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.

It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.


I wonder why Krause fell for the pitch. He should know better.

jps wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:29:30 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.
It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.


It sorta depends on what you get, how much you pay for it, and whether
you can take full advantage of what is offered. Currently, the Disney
time shares similar to what we have are selling on the resale market for
three times what we paid for ours about 10 years ago, even in today's
sucky economy. I didn't have a "note," as we paid for the share in cash.

My folks did the same in Mexico 25 years ago. We went with them for
years and really enjoyed it. Listened to their pitch several times
and agree with your take. If you can take advantage of it, depending
on the price, it can be worth it.

I've looked on ebay for timeshares in the same area of Mexico and
(prior to swine flu scare) found that many people are happy to unload
them for next to nothing to avoid the yearly maintenance fees.

I expect between flu and drug cartel news that Mexican timeshares are
pesos to the dollar.


First time I was in Cancun, I went to a pitch about a timeshare south of
there, on the way to Tulum. This was 30 years ago. It was a deal
incorporating Mexico's land lease provisions for non-nationals. The
developer hadn't broken ground yet. The "share" for two full weeks was
about $1500. Went by the place again in 1992, I think. Fully developed,
and shares now selling for 20 times the original offering price. Tulum
and Merida are two of my favorite places in Mexico.

On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:52:16 -0400, HK wrote:

jps wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:29:30 -0400, HK wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.
It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.


It sorta depends on what you get, how much you pay for it, and whether
you can take full advantage of what is offered. Currently, the Disney
time shares similar to what we have are selling on the resale market for
three times what we paid for ours about 10 years ago, even in today's
sucky economy. I didn't have a "note," as we paid for the share in cash.

My folks did the same in Mexico 25 years ago. We went with them for
years and really enjoyed it. Listened to their pitch several times
and agree with your take. If you can take advantage of it, depending
on the price, it can be worth it.

I've looked on ebay for timeshares in the same area of Mexico and
(prior to swine flu scare) found that many people are happy to unload
them for next to nothing to avoid the yearly maintenance fees.

I expect between flu and drug cartel news that Mexican timeshares are
pesos to the dollar.


First time I was in Cancun, I went to a pitch about a timeshare south of
there, on the way to Tulum. This was 30 years ago. It was a deal
incorporating Mexico's land lease provisions for non-nationals. The
developer hadn't broken ground yet. The "share" for two full weeks was
about $1500. Went by the place again in 1992, I think. Fully developed,
and shares now selling for 20 times the original offering price. Tulum
and Merida are two of my favorite places in Mexico.

We've concentrated on the left coast. Cancun seems too much like San
Diego, with most destinations being vacation spots and little else.

Part of the charm is going to a city with some history and culture and
locals to mix and learn from. Nothing like going to a city center and
taking in the Catholic church, public market, shops and food.

Great experience for the kids. They get to witness kids in very
different circumstances. Good reference for their lives in the US.

When I was 13, my folks took the family all over Mexico including a
trip via taxi from Acapulco to Mexico City. It was an incredible eye
opener for a new teen. That was in the sixties when there was a real
middle class emerging in the country. It's since been squashed.

On May 19, 1:29*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. *They are NEVER a good deal. * You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.

It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.

It sorta depends on what you get, how much you pay for it, and whether
you can take full advantage of what is offered. Currently, the Disney
time shares similar to what we have are selling on the resale market for
three times what we paid for ours about 10 years ago, even in today's
sucky economy. I didn't have a "note," as we paid for the share in cash.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That is pure bull****. Timeshares aren't an investment.
So, you paid $300 dollars for it??

http://www.sellmytimesharenow.com/ti...0/order/price/

Or did you pay less than $300:

http://www.dvc-resales.com/detail.cfm?ID=VB45-02-0508

On Tue, 19 May 2009 13:20:54 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.

It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.

I've read that some people PAY to unload their timeshares and get out
from under the maintenance.
We've been staying in timeshare housekeeping units at a place on the
beach at St. Pete about the last 5 years of Florida vacations.
Used to be a pure rental "resort." Very few "resorts" left.
About a grand a week, and if you reserve early enough and are flexible
within any month you can pretty much get a specific unit.
I think about 1/4 of the units are for sale at any given time.
Maybe I've been just a little bit tempted to pick one up, but I won't.
Talking to owners there, quite a few are from Georgia, and family
members often have adjoining units.
"How do like the new TV's? That's my sister's unit you're in."
Seems real nice for family gatherings, as many do.
Speaking of Vero Beach, that's the town that told me never to vacation
in Florida in the winter. A workmate flew down there for a week's
vacation in January in 1980. Came back pale as when he went and told
me it never got over 50F and he spent a lot of time watching TV.
Since vacation and beach are the same word to me, I vowed never to do
that, and have never been to Florida except in the summer or fall.
Of course living there is different, and sometimes I'm envious of
those balmy winter 50's.
And farther south is a better winter bet for vacation, but I've never
been willing to risk my vacation time.
Hurricane season is my Florida vacation play. Cheaper rates too.

--Vic

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On Tue, 19 May 2009 12:21:58 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Buying a timeshare directly from the developer is a
VERY expensive way to go on vacation. They are NEVER a good deal. You
can buy the exact same timeshare in the resale market for 10 -20 cents
on the dollar from individuals trying to get rid of a timeshare.

It is always fun going to one of those time share pitches with my
brother in law. He is one of those gifted people who can crunch big
numbers in his head instantly. He catches the salesman in mid sentence
with the lifetime cost of the time share, summarized as annual rent,
extended cost of the note and such within seconds of the guy telling
us how "cheap" it is.
Usually they will just give him his free gift and send him on his way
as quickly as possible.


We also enjoy going to those sales pitches. Great *entertainment* for a
couple of hours. We've done about a half dozen in the 17 years here in the
"sunshine" state. 5.7" of rain in the past 48 hours and it looks like
Friday (maybe) before another golf day.

Can't complain about the rain. Just wish it wouldn't last all of the
daylight hours.