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Speaking of The Waffle House

On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:40:52 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

I have never heard anyone conduct a press conference who actually
sounded like she was lying. I would give 10 to 1 odds, that a voice
stress test would show that she was lying.

I'd take you up on that if it were possible.

Speaking of The Waffle House

jps wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 07:32:08 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

His answer? "I've attended many classified intelligence briefings. They
are not conducted to inform you of what is *not* being done."

That's a bull**** answer. As Pelosi has maintained since her first
interview with Rachael Maddow in February, they briefed the members on
what they had established as legal and did not suggest that they were
using such techniques, only that they had been determined by the Bush
Admin as legal.

As we now know, they were using the techniques before they developed
their legal theories.

Pelosi is a red herring and you know it.

Well, you don't expect the GOP'ers to openly discuss in a critical
manner any of the horrors they inflicted on this country and the rest of
the world, do you? That's why they are so busy here, trying to deflect.
It's sooooo obvious, it's really funny.

Of course, none of what the GOP did matches up to Bill Clinton boning an
of age gal who was happy for the presidential attention. :)

Speaking of The Waffle House

On May 15, 12:56*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 05:16:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Poor Krause. So desperate.

Yes, his party is so out of power and his political agenda is laying
fallow in a ditch.

Oh, no. *That's your party.

I believe you are mistaken, Maestro. I'm not a citizen of your
country, therefore I have none of your nations *party* affiliations.

Speaking of The Waffle House

On May 15, 7:45*am, HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
om...

Too bad. The CIA is just another failed federal agency, just like the
FBI. The CIA is too damned political and has not been a reliable
gatherer/source of intel for years.

Now you are an expert on the inner workings of the CIA?

Wow.

Eisboch

There's been serious criticism aplenty in the CIA for those very
reasons.

Herr Krause. There's been serious criticism aplenty concerning your
mental status in this and other forums for a considerable amount of
time. But nothing has changed.

Speaking of The Waffle House

jps wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:41:51 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"jim7856" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up
more pudding.

I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy
back into the coffin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4
Fun to watch them dancing over hot coals. It's amazing how so many liars
thieves and crazys have slithered into high government positions.\\

A couple of things stand out in my mind as I watch and listen to this now
famous Pelosi news conference.

In her statement, she talks about a signed oath she took not to divulge
information she may received during classified briefings. She states that
she has always honored that obligation. Then, she goes on to discuss
information provided during the subject briefing in an attempt to cover her
ass.

She was not free to divulge. Now that information has made it to
public light otherwise, she's no longer bound to hold secret what's in
the public domain.

You must have dealt with this 100 times in the tech industry. It's
called a NDA. When the information is publicly available, you're no
longer bound.

My briefings on variously classified material and subjects while working
for the government and serving in the military did not have a clause
that stated I could talk about what I was told during the briefings if
the material was also disclosed in the public domain.

The second stand-out. She states several times that her job was to elect a
new president who did not subscribe to policies under the Bush
administration. She seems to gloat and be very proud of her accomplishment
in doing so.

They attempted to clarify Bush's torture policy as illegal and he
vetoed the bill. It could not be overridden since Republicans
supported the torture policies of the Bush Administration.

The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys.

The only way out is to elect a new president with a different view of
torture. As an American, I'm glad she did what she could.

The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys.

She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected
with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was
over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has
opposing torture.

That's a good point.

Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate.

She really doesn't serve the Democratic Party very well. She serves
herself.

Who can you cite within the Republican party that serves the party
well?

Palin.

Speaking of The Waffle House

On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:23:58 -0400, BAR wrote:

She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be
elected with or without her involvement or position in Congress.
Bush's time was over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were
and are on record has opposing torture.

That's a good point.

Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate.

Except think timeline, the briefing meeting was back in 2003. Any work
to get Kerry elected failed, and, for the next 4 years, no one knew who
the 2008 candidates were going to be.

Speaking of The Waffle House

On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:23:58 -0400, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:41:51 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"jim7856" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up
more pudding.

I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy
back into the coffin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4
Fun to watch them dancing over hot coals. It's amazing how so many liars
thieves and crazys have slithered into high government positions.\\

A couple of things stand out in my mind as I watch and listen to this now
famous Pelosi news conference.

In her statement, she talks about a signed oath she took not to divulge
information she may received during classified briefings. She states that
she has always honored that obligation. Then, she goes on to discuss
information provided during the subject briefing in an attempt to cover her
ass.

She was not free to divulge. Now that information has made it to
public light otherwise, she's no longer bound to hold secret what's in
the public domain.

You must have dealt with this 100 times in the tech industry. It's
called a NDA. When the information is publicly available, you're no
longer bound.

My briefings on variously classified material and subjects while working
for the government and serving in the military did not have a clause
that stated I could talk about what I was told during the briefings if
the material was also disclosed in the public domain.

The second stand-out. She states several times that her job was to elect a
new president who did not subscribe to policies under the Bush
administration. She seems to gloat and be very proud of her accomplishment
in doing so.

They attempted to clarify Bush's torture policy as illegal and he
vetoed the bill. It could not be overridden since Republicans
supported the torture policies of the Bush Administration.

The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys.

The only way out is to elect a new president with a different view of
torture. As an American, I'm glad she did what she could.

The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys.

She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected
with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was
over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has
opposing torture.

That's a good point.

Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate.

She really doesn't serve the Democratic Party very well. She serves
herself.

Who can you cite within the Republican party that serves the party
well?

Palin.

Lame answers. You weren't a US Senator hearing legal arguments
surrounding torture.

Speaking of The Waffle House

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:23:58 -0400, BAR wrote:

She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be
elected with or without her involvement or position in Congress.
Bush's time was over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were
and are on record has opposing torture.
That's a good point.
Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate.

Except think timeline, the briefing meeting was back in 2003. Any work
to get Kerry elected failed, and, for the next 4 years, no one knew who
the 2008 candidates were going to be.

Except that Pelosi's comments today cannot be verified to have occurred
in 2003. Pelosi is trying to rewrite history but, she fails to
understand that the events she is attempting to rewrite never occurred.

Pelosi is now backtracking on her accusation that the CIA lied to her
and congress. I guess she didn't listen when she told her children that
honesty was the best policy. Or, she may not have told her children that
honesty was the best policy.

Speaking of The Waffle House

jps wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 09:23:58 -0400, BAR wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 06:41:51 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"jim7856" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Disguised as your Speaker of the House, the Master Chef is stirring up
more pudding.

I believe it would be wise for your President-elect to stuff the mummy
back into the coffin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYwZa8jvNp4
Fun to watch them dancing over hot coals. It's amazing how so many liars
thieves and crazys have slithered into high government positions.\\

A couple of things stand out in my mind as I watch and listen to this now
famous Pelosi news conference.

In her statement, she talks about a signed oath she took not to divulge
information she may received during classified briefings. She states that
she has always honored that obligation. Then, she goes on to discuss
information provided during the subject briefing in an attempt to cover her
ass.
She was not free to divulge. Now that information has made it to
public light otherwise, she's no longer bound to hold secret what's in
the public domain.

You must have dealt with this 100 times in the tech industry. It's
called a NDA. When the information is publicly available, you're no
longer bound.
My briefings on variously classified material and subjects while working
for the government and serving in the military did not have a clause
that stated I could talk about what I was told during the briefings if
the material was also disclosed in the public domain.

The second stand-out. She states several times that her job was to elect a
new president who did not subscribe to policies under the Bush
administration. She seems to gloat and be very proud of her accomplishment
in doing so.
They attempted to clarify Bush's torture policy as illegal and he
vetoed the bill. It could not be overridden since Republicans
supported the torture policies of the Bush Administration.
The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys.

The only way out is to elect a new president with a different view of
torture. As an American, I'm glad she did what she could.
The framers came up with a system of government that worked. Smart guys.

She seems to ignore the fact that a new president was going to be elected
with or without her involvement or position in Congress. Bush's time was
over. Both candidates .... Obama and McCain were and are on record has
opposing torture.
That's a good point.
Its a very good point that is completely lost on the fourth estate.

She really doesn't serve the Democratic Party very well. She serves
herself.
Who can you cite within the Republican party that serves the party
well?
Palin.

Lame answers. You weren't a US Senator hearing legal arguments
surrounding torture.

No, I was hearing about our military capabilities vs. the Soviets and
ChiComs.