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Vic Smith May 15th 09 05:47 PM

Is Our Sort of Greedy Capitalism the Answer?
 
On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



Well Duh, but I am not a physician,I am an inventor. As soon as I
show that something works I license it to a bigger company who does a
good job of making it really work well.


What did you think about the geared can opener?
By that I mean manual opener, with geared cutter and tooth driver.
I don't think the inventor got due credit for that.
Much more impressive than the pop-top as far as I'm concerned.
Have you seen that springy little strip that attaches to your nose and
keeps the sides from collapsing while you sleep?
Supposed to prevent snoring and ease breathing for those whose
nose sides collapse while they sleep.
I've seen the ads on TV and it looks to be a success.
Reminds me somehow about "The Jerk" and the eye-glasse handles.
But this one is no joke.
I'd like to invent something.
Where do you get your ideas?
Don't say Schenectady.

--Vic

[email protected] May 15th 09 05:58 PM

Is Our Sort of Greedy Capitalism the Answer?
 
On May 15, 12:33*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On May 15, 11:02*am, HK wrote:





Frogwatch wrote:
On May 15, 10:28 am, wrote:
On May 15, 10:24 am, HK wrote:


Frogwatch wrote:
On May 15, 8:50 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
The automatic reaper invented by McKormick greatly increased the
yields from farms.
Of course it makes the grain grow better, just knowing what lies
ahead.
Casady
Amazing the twists and turns posts here take... * :)
The point is that it is one thing to be "just wrong" and another to be
as willfully ignorant as HK is. *Every day you should wake up and
thank God for producing the "greedy capitalists" who have made your
life possible.
Bull****. Capitalism has its place, but the sort of "greedy capitalism"
since the 1980s does not. I'm as much for businesses making reasonable
profits as anyone else, but rapacious capitalism? No. That's the sort of
capitalism that brings us the Love Canal, Enron, George W. Bush, the
failure of our economic system, et cetera.
Hey...shouldn't you be out building or repairing something else that
will fall apart under you? *Or planning to cross the Gulf of Mexico on a
surfboard you built from leftover orange crates with a sail made of
recycled green trashbags? * :)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Amazing. An alleged mechanical engineer that insults anyone who likes
to, and takes pride in making things, fixing things, etc. Gee he's the
only alleged engineer that I know that won't touch anything
mechanical.....!!!


Yes, I am supposed to be sailing across the Gulf right now. *I told my
22 yr old daughter that I'd sail with her and her bf down to Ft Myers
so they could take my sailboat across Okeechobee and then to the
bahamas. *Unfortunately, I am spending the week repairing 29 year old
electron microscopes because I cannot afford to buy new ones.
Consider that a new one would probably cost a min of $250,000 and I
bought these for the cost of shipping ($2200) and repaired them for
nearly nothing, I am ahead. *B'leve it or not, I got em on E-bay.
They both worked well for the past 3 years too.
Eisboch: *If you run across any surplus turbo-pumps, let me know.


Gee, if I had a physician that cut corners the way you do...I'd find
another physician. "Yes, we rebuilt that lab equipment that we bought on
ebay from a shut-down Mcdonalds...that sterilizer? Used to be a deep
fryer."


Well Duh, but I am not a physician,I am an inventor. *As soon as I
show that something works I license it to a bigger company who does a
good job of making it really work well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What that stupid idiot Harry doesn't know is that hospitals, doctors
offices and labs use refurbished equipment all of the time! As a
matter of fact, I know someone who has a company that does nothing BUT
refurbish medical equipment. Right down to the thing they use for a
colonoscopy! You'd think he'd know that, what with his wife being a
Dr. Dr. Do a web search and you'll come up with thousands of companies
in the U.S. that rebuild equipment. Harry's post sure made him look
stupid(er)!

Frogwatch[_2_] May 15th 09 06:30 PM

Is Our Sort of Greedy Capitalism the Answer?
 
On May 15, 12:58*pm, wrote:
On May 15, 12:33*pm, Frogwatch wrote:



On May 15, 11:02*am, HK wrote:


Frogwatch wrote:
On May 15, 10:28 am, wrote:
On May 15, 10:24 am, HK wrote:


Frogwatch wrote:
On May 15, 8:50 am, HK wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 17:11:38 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:
The automatic reaper invented by McKormick greatly increased the
yields from farms.
Of course it makes the grain grow better, just knowing what lies
ahead.
Casady
Amazing the twists and turns posts here take... * :)
The point is that it is one thing to be "just wrong" and another to be
as willfully ignorant as HK is. *Every day you should wake up and
thank God for producing the "greedy capitalists" who have made your
life possible.
Bull****. Capitalism has its place, but the sort of "greedy capitalism"
since the 1980s does not. I'm as much for businesses making reasonable
profits as anyone else, but rapacious capitalism? No. That's the sort of
capitalism that brings us the Love Canal, Enron, George W. Bush, the
failure of our economic system, et cetera.
Hey...shouldn't you be out building or repairing something else that
will fall apart under you? *Or planning to cross the Gulf of Mexico on a
surfboard you built from leftover orange crates with a sail made of
recycled green trashbags? * :)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Amazing. An alleged mechanical engineer that insults anyone who likes
to, and takes pride in making things, fixing things, etc. Gee he's the
only alleged engineer that I know that won't touch anything
mechanical.....!!!


Yes, I am supposed to be sailing across the Gulf right now. *I told my
22 yr old daughter that I'd sail with her and her bf down to Ft Myers
so they could take my sailboat across Okeechobee and then to the
bahamas. *Unfortunately, I am spending the week repairing 29 year old
electron microscopes because I cannot afford to buy new ones.
Consider that a new one would probably cost a min of $250,000 and I
bought these for the cost of shipping ($2200) and repaired them for
nearly nothing, I am ahead. *B'leve it or not, I got em on E-bay.
They both worked well for the past 3 years too.
Eisboch: *If you run across any surplus turbo-pumps, let me know.


Gee, if I had a physician that cut corners the way you do...I'd find
another physician. "Yes, we rebuilt that lab equipment that we bought on
ebay from a shut-down Mcdonalds...that sterilizer? Used to be a deep
fryer."


Well Duh, but I am not a physician,I am an inventor. *As soon as I
show that something works I license it to a bigger company who does a
good job of making it really work well.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What that stupid idiot Harry doesn't know is that hospitals, doctors
offices and labs use refurbished equipment all of the time! As a
matter of fact, I know someone who has a company that does nothing BUT
refurbish medical equipment. Right down to the thing they use for a
colonoscopy! You'd think he'd know that, what with his wife being a
Dr. Dr. Do a web search and you'll come up with thousands of companies
in the U.S. that rebuild equipment. Harry's post sure made him look
stupid(er)!


I agree Vic, the geared can opener is a masterpiece of good design and
every time I use one I wonder how the idea came to its inventor, did
he try other things first? Consider the old type of can opener where
you stab the can and then wiggle it up and down making an extremely
sharp jagged edge, AWFUL. How did this guy manage to think so far out
of the mainstream to come up with the geared opener.
Remember when the pop top was being perfected and they tried various
designs? Do you remember the Coors cans that had two holes you pushed
in with your finger but they cut some peoples fingers?
I have heard the springy strip thing works for snorers. However,
since I have rarely had to deal with someone who snores I never
considered it.
Right now, my youngest daughter has been diagnosed with Type I
diabetes so we are doing the finger prick 4X a day and the insulin
injections. Some of the gadgets they have to make this easy are kinda
cool and it has gotten me thinking of things to make this whole
process easier. Thinking about this actually is distracting me from
work I am currently being paid to do.
I think all people can invent things but they think it is somehow a
special talent. In the USA, our govt actually encourages invention by
individuals by making the patent process almost reasonable whereas
most countries discourage patents by individuals in favor of them
being submitted by large companies. I think the diff shows in our
economy vs theirs.
Some people can "invent on demand", that is, they are asked to invent
something to solve a problem and so they do. I cannot do that at
all. Instead, i fill my head with all the techie stuff I can by
skimming tech journals and then I do something so the concepts can
randomely swirl round and round until two fit together and then it's
"EUREKA". This mostly happens when I am going for a walk or sailing ,
etc.
My only natural talent is doing this and so I do not lack for ideas at
all. What I lack is an attention span that would allow me to fully
develop things because I am constantly jumping from one thing to
another. Right now, I am almost regretting the diabetes ideas because
they will distract me from my x-ray work.
So, if you have a good idea, I encourage you to consider patenting
it. Go onto the USPTO website and use their search mechanism and
look for old patents that might cover your idea. Do not get
discouraged. My first attempt to patent something was for an anti-
fouling that could be applied underwater but a patent search revealed
it was done years ago.

Vic Smith May 15th 09 06:55 PM

Is Our Sort of Greedy Capitalism the Answer?
 
On Fri, 15 May 2009 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



I agree Vic, the geared can opener is a masterpiece of good design and
every time I use one I wonder how the idea came to its inventor, did
he try other things first? Consider the old type of can opener where
you stab the can and then wiggle it up and down making an extremely
sharp jagged edge, AWFUL. How did this guy manage to think so far out
of the mainstream to come up with the geared opener.


I seem to recall the geared cutting wheel can opener came out after
electric can openers. Maybe he just applied the electric concept,
which used a geared cutting wheel, to a manual opener.
What I remember is the up-and-down cutter you mentioned, then some
years of a turning wing opener with a fixed cutting blade and a gear
driving the can. Usually slipped badly because the fixed cutter was
crap. Then came the geared cutting wheel. With beefed up handle too.
Easy as pie.

Remember when the pop top was being perfected and they tried various
designs? Do you remember the Coors cans that had two holes you pushed
in with your finger but they cut some peoples fingers?


Can't say I do. But I recall some progression to where we are.
Like pulling the whole tab off, with its sharp edges.

I have heard the springy strip thing works for snorers. However,
since I have rarely had to deal with someone who snores I never
considered it.
Right now, my youngest daughter has been diagnosed with Type I
diabetes so we are doing the finger prick 4X a day and the insulin
injections. Some of the gadgets they have to make this easy are kinda
cool and it has gotten me thinking of things to make this whole
process easier. Thinking about this actually is distracting me from
work I am currently being paid to do.
I think all people can invent things but they think it is somehow a
special talent. In the USA, our govt actually encourages invention by
individuals by making the patent process almost reasonable whereas
most countries discourage patents by individuals in favor of them
being submitted by large companies. I think the diff shows in our
economy vs theirs.
Some people can "invent on demand", that is, they are asked to invent
something to solve a problem and so they do. I cannot do that at
all. Instead, i fill my head with all the techie stuff I can by
skimming tech journals and then I do something so the concepts can
randomely swirl round and round until two fit together and then it's
"EUREKA". This mostly happens when I am going for a walk or sailing ,
etc.
My only natural talent is doing this and so I do not lack for ideas at
all. What I lack is an attention span that would allow me to fully
develop things because I am constantly jumping from one thing to
another. Right now, I am almost regretting the diabetes ideas because
they will distract me from my x-ray work.
So, if you have a good idea, I encourage you to consider patenting
it. Go onto the USPTO website and use their search mechanism and
look for old patents that might cover your idea. Do not get
discouraged. My first attempt to patent something was for an anti-
fouling that could be applied underwater but a patent search revealed
it was done years ago.


I'm going to remember your words next time I go fishing.
I'll try to read some stuff first, so there's something in my head to
mix up. Maybe some boating-related stuff.
Or maybe household, to invent something the homemaker could use.
Got an idea already, but it's a secret.
I'd like to see you invent something your daughter would use to
ease her diabetes travails. But don't let your business go bust
thinking about it.

--Vic

[email protected] May 15th 09 07:39 PM

Is Our Sort of Greedy Capitalism the Answer?
 
On May 15, 1:55*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2009 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch

wrote:

I agree Vic, the geared can opener is a masterpiece of good design and
every time I use one I wonder how the idea came to its inventor, did
he try other things first? *Consider the old type of can opener where
you stab the can and then wiggle it up and down making an extremely
sharp jagged edge, AWFUL. *How did this guy manage to think so far out
of the mainstream to come up with the geared opener.


I seem to recall the geared cutting wheel can opener came out after
electric can openers. *Maybe he just applied the electric concept,
which used a geared cutting wheel, to a manual opener.
What I remember is the up-and-down cutter you mentioned, then some
years of a turning wing opener with a fixed cutting blade and a gear
driving the can. *Usually slipped badly because the fixed cutter was
crap. *Then came the geared cutting wheel. *With beefed up handle too..
Easy as pie.

Remember when the pop top was being perfected and they tried various
designs? *Do you remember the Coors cans that had two holes you pushed
in with your finger but they cut some peoples fingers?


Can't say I do. *But I recall some progression to where we are.
Like pulling the whole tab off, with its sharp edges.





I have heard the springy strip thing works for snorers. *However,
since I have rarely had to deal with someone who snores I never
considered it.
Right now, my youngest daughter has been diagnosed with Type I
diabetes so we are doing the finger prick 4X a day and the insulin
injections. *Some of the gadgets they have to make this easy are kinda
cool and it has gotten me thinking of things to make this whole
process easier. *Thinking about this actually is distracting me from
work I am currently being paid to do.
I think all people can invent things but they think it is somehow a
special talent. *In the USA, our govt actually encourages invention by
individuals by making the patent process almost reasonable whereas
most countries discourage patents by individuals in favor of them
being submitted by large companies. *I think the diff shows in our
economy vs theirs.
Some people can "invent on demand", that is, they are asked to invent
something to solve a problem and so they do. *I cannot do that at
all. *Instead, i fill my head with all the techie stuff I can by
skimming tech journals and then I do something so the concepts can
randomely swirl round and round until two fit together and then it's
"EUREKA". *This mostly happens when I am going for a walk or sailing ,
etc.
My only natural talent is doing this and so I do not lack for ideas at
all. *What I lack is an attention span that would allow me to fully
develop things because I am constantly jumping from one thing to
another. *Right now, I am almost regretting the diabetes ideas because
they will distract me from my x-ray work.
So, if you have a good idea, I encourage you to consider patenting
it. *Go onto the USPTO website and use their search *mechanism and
look for old patents that might cover your idea. *Do not get
discouraged. *My first attempt to patent something was for an anti-
fouling that could be applied underwater but a patent search revealed
it was done years ago.


I'm going to remember your words next time I go fishing.
I'll try to read some stuff first, so there's something in my head to
mix up. *Maybe some boating-related stuff.
Or maybe household, to invent something the homemaker could use.
Got an idea already, but it's a secret.
I'd like to see you invent something your daughter would use to
ease her diabetes travails. *But don't let your business go bust
thinking about it.

--Vic- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


One time I had this very vivid dream about something I invented. I
woke up and thought to myself, this is it! Perfect, I MUST remember
this, and promptly fell back asleep. All I can remember is that what I
dreamed would revolutionize the way work is done in my area of
expertise. That's all. They say that you should keep pen and paper by
your bed to write the stuff down as soon as your eyes open. I didn't.
STILL think about it, and it's never came back.

Vic Smith May 16th 09 12:52 AM

Is Our Sort of Greedy Capitalism the Answer?
 
On Fri, 15 May 2009 11:39:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



One time I had this very vivid dream about something I invented. I
woke up and thought to myself, this is it! Perfect, I MUST remember
this, and promptly fell back asleep. All I can remember is that what I
dreamed would revolutionize the way work is done in my area of
expertise. That's all. They say that you should keep pen and paper by
your bed to write the stuff down as soon as your eyes open. I didn't.
STILL think about it, and it's never came back.


Maybe you should get hypnotized to bring it back.
I've woken up laughing a few times, and could remember
what made me laugh.
But I couldn't figure out what was funny about it.
I think what happens in your head when you're sleeping is
just craziness.
Nature's way of making you sane when you're awake.

--Vic



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