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I heard a rumour the US Military want to end the use of Loran on
waterways. They want us all to revert to GPS based systems. They say they're easier to jam....... I can see a real stink coming from the Commercial Fishermen, and anyone else who uses it. Anyone else hear this? |
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On Fri, 08 May 2009 22:23:44 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I heard a rumour the US Military want to end the use of Loran on waterways. They want us all to revert to GPS based systems. They say they're easier to jam....... I can see a real stink coming from the Commercial Fishermen, and anyone else who uses it. Anyone else hear this? Yesterday's news. Obambi is killing the LORAN program because it's "wasteful". We had a discussion on it yesterday. Search for "The End of Loran" by Eisboch. |
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On May 8, 10:25*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Fri, 08 May 2009 22:23:44 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I heard a rumour the US Military want to end the use of Loran on waterways. They want us all to revert to GPS based systems. They say they're easier to jam....... I can see a real stink coming from the Commercial Fishermen, and anyone else who uses it. Anyone else hear this? Yesterday's news. Obambi is killing the LORAN program because it's "wasteful". We had a discussion on it yesterday. Search for "The End of Loran" by Eisboch. Ooooops. I scanned back several pages, and it didn't show up. I did find it, though. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I heard a rumour the US Military want to end the use of Loran on waterways. They want us all to revert to GPS based systems. They say they're easier to jam....... I can see a real stink coming from the Commercial Fishermen, and anyone else who uses it. Anyone else hear this? Yesterday's news. Obambi is killing the LORAN program because it's "wasteful". We had a discussion on it yesterday. Yeah. One of the programs that save .00001% while the rest of the "unwasteful" programs like studying gay Venezuelan bars chug on. |
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"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote Learn something new every day. I know a lot of the charter guys have translated their loran data to GPS, but apparently not the commecial draggers and seiners. Just wondering. What does a good LORAN unit cost vs. GPS? |
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On May 8, 10:57*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2009 19:34:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 8, 10:25*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 08 May 2009 22:23:44 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I heard a rumour the US Military want to end the use of Loran on waterways. They want us all to revert to GPS based systems. They say they're easier to jam....... I can see a real stink coming from the Commercial Fishermen, and anyone else who uses it. Anyone else hear this? Yesterday's news. Obambi is killing the LORAN program because it's "wasteful". We had a discussion on it yesterday. Search for "The End of Loran" by Eisboch. Ooooops. I scanned back several pages, and it didn't show up. I did find it, though. You and eisboch were dead on right. *I just downloaded the messages from an email list I'm on for New England Fisheries Management Council and the commercial guys are ****ed off and not in a nice way either - salty language galore. :) Surprized the hell out of me - apparently a lot of the commerical guys still use LORAN-C to find their honey holes. Learn something new every day. I know a lot of the charter guys have translated their loran data to GPS, but apparently not the commecial draggers and seiners. The Commercial Fishermen I referred to, are the Great Lakes Fishermen. No dragging, and seine nets up here. |
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On Fri, 8 May 2009 22:02:47 -0600, "SteveB"
wrote: "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote Learn something new every day. I know a lot of the charter guys have translated their loran data to GPS, but apparently not the commecial draggers and seiners. Just wondering. What does a good LORAN unit cost vs. GPS? Good question. You probably won't find a new one as I don't believe they are made anymore. I could be wrong on that though. I have a couple of newer Raytheon units that still work and I'm hanging on to them. |
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On May 9, 7:07*am, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 8 May 2009 21:27:41 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 8, 10:57*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Fri, 8 May 2009 19:34:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 8, 10:25*pm, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 08 May 2009 22:23:44 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote: On Fri, 8 May 2009 18:45:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: I heard a rumour the US Military want to end the use of Loran on waterways. They want us all to revert to GPS based systems. They say they're easier to jam....... I can see a real stink coming from the Commercial Fishermen, and anyone else who uses it. Anyone else hear this? Yesterday's news. Obambi is killing the LORAN program because it's "wasteful". We had a discussion on it yesterday. Search for "The End of Loran" by Eisboch. Ooooops. I scanned back several pages, and it didn't show up. I did find it, though. You and eisboch were dead on right. *I just downloaded the messages from an email list I'm on for New England Fisheries Management Council and the commercial guys are ****ed off and not in a nice way either - salty language galore. :) Surprized the hell out of me - apparently a lot of the commerical guys still use LORAN-C to find their honey holes. Learn something new every day. I know a lot of the charter guys have translated their loran data to GPS, but apparently not the commecial draggers and seiners. The Commercial Fishermen I referred to, are the Great Lakes Fishermen. No dragging, and seine nets up here. Commercial fishermen are commercial fishermen. The difference being we don't allow " Bag-Draggers " in the Great Lakes. |
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On Fri, 8 May 09, "SteveB" wrote:
Just wondering. What does a good LORAN unit cost vs. GPS? I paid about $400 (IIRC) for a new Sitex EZ7 in the early-mid '80s. That included the coupler but not the antenna. And that was the least expensive unit I could find. It still works great though. And I got more than my money's worth in just the first year I had it. On Sat, 09 May 09, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: I have a couple of newer Raytheon units that still work and I'm hanging on to them. Funny, I was just wondering what I should do with mine. It still looks brand new but I don't think it would go well mounted over my mantle piece. I'd hate to throw it in the trash though. Rick |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 May 09, "SteveB" wrote: Just wondering. What does a good LORAN unit cost vs. GPS? I paid about $400 (IIRC) for a new Sitex EZ7 in the early-mid '80s. That included the coupler but not the antenna. And that was the least expensive unit I could find. It still works great though. And I got more than my money's worth in just the first year I had it. On Sat, 09 May 09, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: I have a couple of newer Raytheon units that still work and I'm hanging on to them. Funny, I was just wondering what I should do with mine. It still looks brand new but I don't think it would go well mounted over my mantle piece. I'd hate to throw it in the trash though. Rick I'd hold onto it if you use it. This is over yet. The government tried to shut down LORAN before, but backed off due to overwhelming protests from both the boating and aviation sectors. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 8 May 09, "SteveB" wrote: Just wondering. What does a good LORAN unit cost vs. GPS? I paid about $400 (IIRC) for a new Sitex EZ7 in the early-mid '80s. That included the coupler but not the antenna. And that was the least expensive unit I could find. It still works great though. And I got more than my money's worth in just the first year I had it. On Sat, 09 May 09, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: I have a couple of newer Raytheon units that still work and I'm hanging on to them. Funny, I was just wondering what I should do with mine. It still looks brand new but I don't think it would go well mounted over my mantle piece. I'd hate to throw it in the trash though. Rick I'd hold onto it if you use it. This is over yet. The government tried to shut down LORAN before, but backed off due to overwhelming protests from both the boating and aviation sectors. Eisboch obviously meant to say "not" over yet. |
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On Sat, 9 May 09, "Eisboch" wrote:
I'd hold onto it if you use it. This is over yet. The government tried to shut down LORAN before, but backed off due to overwhelming protests from both the boating and aviation sectors. Good point. Ya just never really know. I generally use GPS, the newer interface is more user friendly, but I like knowing the LORAN is there to double check a location or as a back up if need be. I'll wait and see. Rick |
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